Reply With QuoteElvis died 8-16-1977.Add the numbers.You get 1977+16+8= 2001 His theme song.He knew it for a long time.
When I sit and think of the last year of Elvis' life, I see some clues that maybe could indicate that he knew his life soon would end.
Take the jumpsuit at first, he wor it almost the whole year of 1977. Maybe he thougth he didn't need anymore, because he knew he was ending soon?
He wrote his will in april of 1977.
Almost most of the men and women from his mothers side died in the 40's, and maybe he thougth he inherited it?
One week before he died, he called his cook, don't remember her name, and she told that she could hear that his spark, and will to live was over.
At his last concert he said ''Adios, and may god bless you'' He didn't say ''until we meet again'' as he used too.
Please tell me if I'm wrong?
Last edited by senadw124; 12-01-2006 at 07:53 AM.
Elvis died 8-16-1977.Add the numbers.You get 1977+16+8= 2001 His theme song.He knew it for a long time.
Last edited by jak; 12-01-2006 at 12:05 PM.
Originally Posted by jak
jak do you really think elvis tought about that???
because i don't think that
I was just joking.It is ironic though that the numbers add up to 2001.It's just a coincidence.Who knows what Elvis' own thoughts were back in 77.I dont personally think Elvis had any premonition of his death.I think sometimes we try to look for special meaning when there is none.It's hard when somebody like Elvis dies.He was just a man but yet he was perceived as so much more by so many including myself.It's best not to dwell on his death or how he died.Just remember the good things he did and continue to enjoy the music he left behind.
Jak
Elvis expressed on occasion that he didn't think he would live past 42 - the age he thought his mother was when she died - she lied on her marriage certificate to wed Vernon.
As far as expressing something, and the obvious decline in his physical appearence and health, Elvis was preparing for a tour on August 16th 1977 and wasn't exactly buying up copper caskets or plots of land to be buried in.
As for what he said at his last concert - how many concerts didn't he say Untill We Meet You Again? Coincidental - by the way, Adios doesent mean goodbye for good.
Actually he wrote his last will on the 3rd of March 1977 - he was on tour after that date.
As for calling his cook - unless she was in Graceland, I do fidn it hard to believe that Elvis - who was withdrawing from those closest to him with the exception of Billy Smith - started to make personal calls to one of his many cooks.
And finally as for the life leaving him, it had been obvious for a few months that this was not a well man.
The Sun Never Sets On A Legend...
the cook[mary jenkins] had said that E.P. wasn't himself, she tried to make him eat solids, [he was on the low cal jello diet] but she said that his favorite chicken fried steak was brought up and left by his door, she said it remained untouched for the whole night, the same night E.P. asked her to sow a tear in his blue silk shirt[something he never had her do] this was the last time she saw him alive, NANCY ROOKS was on duty that fateful night/day, and she said she remembered the call and giving it over to AL. Lets not forget that this was not the first time he o'd'd , billy said that he remembers 3 prior ocasions when he almost died, this time he od'd and no one was there to save them, i believe E.P. took himself out, he was suffering from generalized apathy[just my opinon though] he had the book comming out, he dreaded the start of another tour[no doubt], i believe the david stanley theroy, about e.p. saving or taking all the packets at once and the load just hit him on the comode, and not in bed as he probably preffered.,again this is only my opinion.
I disagree, EP bit part of his tongue off, I dont think he intentionally killed himself, especially with lisa in the house.
The Sun Never Sets On A Legend...
I can't imagine what this poor man went through his last 8 months, he certainly deserved better.
It's a fact that Elvis had several special gifts, not only his voice, so why not knowing that he would have to live that long? I ones read a story that Elvis had dreamed about his mum teling him that it was time to come, not too long before he died. He'd told it to someone (Don't know who.) and when his cook asked him what he wanted to eat on the 16th. he just smiled and said: You don't have to prepare anything for me tomorrow. The story gave me goosepumps. I tell ya. Ofcourse many stories have been told and I'm don't have paranormal gifts, but I believe in them strongly.
JAK, I agree with you 100%. Nobody will ever know what happened or what Elvis thoughts where. Let's remember the good times and memories we could share with Elvis.
Christel (TCE)
Last edited by TCE; 12-05-2006 at 06:45 AM.
l don't think elvis tried to lill himself either, he knew that people that kill themselves do not go to heaven, and his wish was to go to heaven and be be with his family.
Without a song,the day would never end.
Without a song,a man ain t got a friend.
Without a song,the road would never bend,
so I keep singing a song. Elvis Presley
Elvis was a very ill man and he knew his time was coming.
I'm pretty sure about that
I don't think he knew he'd leave this world as soon as he did, though....
I totally agree with TonyTrout. I think Elvis was feeling bad enough to wonder about it but I don't believe he took his own life.
well i also believe that it could be 2 other things that contributed to his death, he was struggling with constipation[a side effect of medication, especially uppers and downers], it could be he forced preesure in his body and a great force like that can give you heart arithmia[heart attack], but i remember seeing the 20/20 cover up with GERALDO RIVERA, he dispelled the myth of heart attack , as E.P.'s arteries were years away from being clogged, all the tests they ran independantly with patholigists confirmed that he died of OVERDOSE[9 differn't drugs were found in his body at the time of death. Another theroy that i would like to believe is tha GOD had seen that he served his will and called him home. Again i do believe that E.P. was bored of life , BILLY had said that the last vacation he took didn't make his mood improve, that much and durring the last year and a half he was severly depressed, as dr nick also wanted him to seek treatments for deprresion, anxiety, he suffered then from manic depression[bi polar] disorder,most people who are bi polar do not live long[no energy, apathy, letargic, etc...
again this is just my opinions.
While it is well known that Elvis didn't think he would live much past 42 years old (as 0349054 pointed out), I don't necessarily know if Elvis KNEW he was going to die when he did.
As others pointed out here...while Elvis was indeed ill and obviously dependent on prescription medication, he was preparing for a tour starting on August 16th and still had Lisa Marie at Graceland with him. If Elvis "knew" he was going to die, I doubt he would have been preparing to go out on another tour and he CERTAINLY would not have wanted Lisa around the mansion to see her Daddy die.
Of course, everything that was said by the members of the entourage around the time of Elvis' death has been called into question at one time or another, but Charlie Hodge did say that Elvis seemed very upbeat and ready for the tour, even rehearsing some new material for the tour. Whether this is true or not will probably never be known, but if it was true, then obviously that is another indication that Elvis wasn't expecting to die.
While definitely tragic and untimely, I don't think that Elvis "knew" he was going to die....
...now what CAUSED him to die is a topic that will probably be debated for a LONG time...
TCB!
Mike
R.I.P. Tommy
We will miss you dearest friend
You have got to be kidding me right? Elvis committing suicide? I don't think so. And as for the meds they found in his body at the time of his death, I remember that they were all in the proper amounts as prescribed. I don't think Elvis planned to die....why have Lisa Marie there if he was going to do that? I have heard he was upbeat and looking forward to the new tour, not just from Charlie Hodge, but from Joe Esposito as well. I do know that he had apparently told some of thed band members to look for other possible work after the tour, so I think he was going to make some changes in his life. We all know Elvis was ill, but what always has bothered me most was that the people around him knew how he was feeling, or at least should have, and yet, where is everyone when he dies? Ginger's asleep in the bed, and no one even bothers to check on him. I don't think Elvis made his will because he thought he would die.....if that were the case, then anytime anyone made a will could be looked at suspiciously. And as far as the suit.....I think he just happened to enjoy it. Besides a new one was made for the new tour. We'll never know what happened exactly, but I do know Elvis did not committ suicide.
I believe Elvis never knew it was coming. No one knowns when they are going to die. Was he afraid that it might have been passed down to him with heart problem and part of family dieing before there 50s yes. On my grandmothers side a lot of my family had cancer in their 60s and 70s even though its 40 years away I'm afraid I might get it.
But as far as Elvis knowing he was going die. I don't think he did.
Love to all,
Tim Dudley
I can't say I agree with the no one knows part. I had a close family member tell me one morning to call everyone and let him know its his time if they wanted to stop by now is the time . He died that night. He appeared to be improving prior to that. I think Sometimes you just know.
After reading the long laundry list of health Problems Elvis had, I can believe that he was getting tired of it and maybe even wished it would end. Killing himself thats another story.
Elvis new his time was nearly up when he done Elvis In Concert show. Joe had to help Elvis walk off stage. The look Elvis gave to his Dad after singing Unchained Melody. Everyone knows Elvis had prescription drugs and liked to experiment sometimes with them. It's a coincidence that his numbers came to 2001 the day he died. I thought Elvis knew a lot about drugs and what they could for him. Did he make a mistake on 16/8/77? Or did someone unknown make a drug mixture that killed Elvis? Makes you wonder if the helicopter story is true after all.
Frank
Every man has a flaming star
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