Reply With QuoteHow about somebody craeting an overview of all the know jumpsuits; if not a pictorial, then at least a written list? Or has someone already done this?
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How about somebody craeting an overview of all the know jumpsuits; if not a pictorial, then at least a written list? Or has someone already done this?
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Here's a cool site to check out in regards to Elvis's jumpsuits:Originally Posted by jadedragon61
Silvester's Elvis Pages
And yes, our very own Leroy has compiled a PDF. file of the actual names of the jumpsuits...I have a copy of the list...but I wouldn't want to post the list without Leroy's permission first....
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fascinating debate - great work guys
Yes , intriguing theories. But you are all forgetting one thing. None of you mention all the drugs Elvis was taking. Surely this helped him along his way to the great beyond?
Whenever I read books about Elvis, it seems him and the Memphis Mafia were ALL stoned most of the time. It makes me wonder how Elvis could have done what he did , if he was in that state constantly.
So much great info hear from Leroy, Cryogenic, JJ, and everyone else involved in the discussion.
As for Elvis wearing the Sundial having something to do with 8/16 and a sign of him saying goodbye = BS imo Elvis was just simply not interested in updating the wardrobe, and relied on the Sundial as most other suits' probably wouldn't fit with his huge weight gain through 1977.
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
Yeah Elvis was not intrested in updating the wardrobe, if he was he would have worn something different on the CBS Special, knowing he was going on Television.
"When I was a child, ladies and gentlemen, I was a dreamer. I read comic books, and I was a hero in the movie. So every dream that I ever dreamed has come true a hundred times. I learned very early in life that without a song, the day would never end; without a song, a man ain't got a friend; without a song, the road would never bend; without a song. So I keep singing a song." - Elvis Presley
Did you really read what they said?
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
If Sundial Suit was actually designed to have the date of Aug. 16th, then the question arises of Bill Belew... did he know what he was doing when he made this suit? Let's not forget that it was originally designed and debuted on stage in 1974, three years before his death.
Bill Belew didn't know anything because he wasn't the designer of the suit.
Another wise man.
And, I agree with your philosophy too.
Some just seem to "know" when their time has come.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Yes I did read that. OK so their were a couple of other suit's he could've fitted in perhaps.
That wasn't the point I was trying to get across though my friend, just simply trying to say that I don't think Elvis was interested in what he was doing anymore obviously, with the same setlist, same suit, and playing the same one nighters in towns he had played in for the past 20 or so years.
I just don't look at it as a way of him saying good bye, I think it was just him showing he just wasn't interested in what he was doing anymore like he was say in the early 70's.
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
You might try looking at his life .Then you might get it.Yes I did read that. OK so their were a couple of other suit's he could've fitted in perhaps.
That wasn't the point I was trying to get across though my friend, just simply trying to say that I don't think Elvis was interested in what he was doing anymore obviously, with the same setlist, same suit, and playing the same one nighters in towns he had played in for the past 20 or so years.
I just don't look at it as a way of him saying good bye, I think it was just him showing he just wasn't interested in what he was doing anymore like he was say in the early 70's.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
OK, so who designed the suit? Was it Gene Doucette? Whoever designed it had to have known what he was doing??? I mean, if Elvis had wanted the suit to specifically show Aug. 16, he would have told the man that designed it.
It was Gene Doucette who created this suit. In fact he was the designer of ALL jumpsuits after 1971. He never met Elvis and Elvis never even heard about the man. As far as Elvis knew all his wardobe came from Bill. It was a very difficult construction. Besides that Elvis never ordered a special design except in the case of the 1973 "American Eagle" (Aloha). Elvis never put in any ideas. He fully trusted on what the designers had to offer. The only thing he did do was letting you know if he DIDN'T like it.
That was the case with the 1975 navy blue two-pieces. Those ones were created by Bill and he almost got fired over them...
For the rest.... I think we can speculate about the meaning of the "Mexican Sundial" until hell freezes over. The only thing we do know is that is says 8 - 16. And that is that. All the rest is pure speculation.
A while ago I wrote someting about it in a more spiritual way and Cameron brought that piece under the attention again. I'm still behind that story all the way but it's hard to discuss spiritual matters with non-spiritual believers. No offence. We all are facing one big problem here.... in order to understand fully we have to look through Elvis' eyes. And that is impossible.
But maybe.... to add some more confusion.... you all look at it in the wrong order. What if the suit came before the thought? That it just numerological fitted. Or that it just fitted in destiny. This suit made its debut in the fall of 1974. Maybe Elvis didn't liked it at first. He probably could appreciate the design and the special meaning of the Aztec culture. But faith and destiny does perform in strange ways and I believe in both of them. Elvis did too. More and more towards the end things happened. I do not believe in "a suit specially desinged with 8-16 on it", but the suit was there already. And subcounciously Elvis could have taken it out of his wardobe and started to use it. Maybe destiny "guided" him to it. There are always signs and numbers around us. Some of us listen and some don't. I do. Elvis did.
Greetings All,
I realize I am not known and really a nobody here, but I very much enjoy all the insight and research that you all do. Anyway, I have noticed that Elvis seemed to be a "Habitual Dresser" meaning, he would go through phases when he woudl wear the same thing over and over againg. For example, going all the way back to the 50's, there are photos spanning about 8-months where he is clearly wearing the same sport coat. I'm sure you all know the one he is wearing in the photo's with Natalie Wood. As I look back over the photos I see this same type of thing being repeated. Oh well, I just wanted to through that out there for what it's worth.
Most people are habitual, especially if they have a lot of stress in their lives. For example, think about your workplace, if you go to your breakroom for cofee or soda, don't you usually sit in the exact same spot or area each time? Pick the same bathroom stall to use each time. These little things just keep us a little bit sane.
Back to Elvis' clothing, as I understand the jumpsuits, weren't even his 2 peice suits fitted as jumpsuits underneath? I read that this was done because of the constant dance/karate movements Elvis did. Not the jacket, but the shirt attached to the pants, that is.
Just pretend, I'm holding you, and whispering things soft and low.
And think of me, how it's gonna be and just pretend I didn't go
Lisa, do you mean the two-piece outfits Elvis used in 1975? If so...these were sleeveless jumpsuits. The shirts were just shirts and were not attached. He could wear any shirt with them. For instance... with the "Navy Blue Two-piece with Red Scallops" he wore yellow shirts as well as white shirts. Below you will see a drawing I made. Here you can see what it looks like without the jacket.
Okay, I get it, thanks for the info, Leroy, and
the glasses are cool! Lisa
Just pretend, I'm holding you, and whispering things soft and low.
And think of me, how it's gonna be and just pretend I didn't go
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