Let's Talk About Elvis Clothing!

[Merry]

you know, i havent been following this from the start, and i admit that i dont know alot about EP, but i do know this much... this is a place for discussing EP and other such topics, in this case, his clothes, and i know from previous forum experiences, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and this is exactly what is being said / done here. Someone spoke their opinion, and added an additional comment to it, and when asked to back it up, became defensive about it. It is my humble opinion that if a member doesnt wish to divulge information, he should be respected for that, not shunned, as for some of the other things said, we should all be friends here, not enemies, and this place will grow through friendship, not bitterness

i have now said my piece, and i am not trying to flame anyone here, so if i offended any one, i am sorry ahead of time

Well said.

Jess

[ajr]

All comments are welcome here, however, if you makes comments that are then said to come from someone as close as Priscilla you should expect to be able to give details. I am sorry but just to say my word is good enough doesn't hold much credibility when we are on a forum and I can't see your face?

I'm pretty sure that if you did know Priscilla and LMP you would have a photograph or some sort of proof, this does not mean you are divulging information or breaking trust, just adding credibility. If I offend you by asking for proof I am sorry but "That's The Way It Is"

I agree with you to a certain extent......{ I love for people to back up their claims} That's a big ,big thing for me too. Most of what I think I know has just been taken second or third hand. I've found out much later; some of that has proven to be false.
In which case; I have to agree with doombringer too.
This is only a forum ; bringing people with all kinds of info that they've heard or seen. " It is not a court of law" So, I guess I'm saying these things were created to have fun, enjoyment.
Take whatever's said with a "grain of salt." Believe what you will, but don't bet your life on anything you read....
None of it's important enough to constantly fight over.....IMO.
Not one of us knows the truth of what went on in anothers life.
It's all hearsay and guesswork......

[Leroy]

In the Elvis-world there are always two stories; myths and facts. Matt is trying to separate facts from myths, just like I always try to do. It has nothing to do with having an opinion. It just that we are getting sick and tired of all those myths that are being kept alive and taken for granted. Myths that are being spread by people who claim to be of any importance but will not answer the door if you ring the bell.
We're here on this forum, not only to share pictures but also to share information. We like to get to know Elvis a little bit better than we already do. But what is the info worth if you can't rely on the fact that the info is true?

Having an opinion is a good thing. But if you're not able or willing to back it up it's just as hollow as a drum.

[ajr]

In the Elvis-world there are always two stories; myths and facts. Matt is trying to separate facts from myths, just like I always try to do. It has nothing to do with having an opinion. It just that we are getting sick and tired of all those myths that are being kept alive and taken for granted. Myths that are being spread by people who claim to be of any importance but will not answer the door if you ring the bell.
We're here on this forum, not only to share pictures but also to share information. We like to get to know Elvis a little bit better than we already do. But what is the info worth if you can't rely on the fact that the info is true?

Having an opinion is a good thing. But if you're not able or willing to back it up it's just as hollow as a drum.

Leroy.
you always make sense . And, I'd love to be able to say I know something for a fact. IF I've talked to the "insider" in question.....I can always say; well, this is what he/she said at the time. Sometimes; in waiting a bit & he/she tells a different "truth" to someone else.

With things we can see with our own eyes or hear with our own ears; I'm more inclined to agree & take it as "fact." Such as the jumpsuits & the music.....all else; seems to be subject to change.

[ajr]

All comments are welcome here, however, if you makes comments that are then said to come from someone as close as Priscilla you should expect to be able to give details. I am sorry but just to say my word is good enough doesn't hold much credibility when we are on a forum and I can't see your face?

This is something I had to learn....the hard way. I do agree with this statement I always try to "back up my statements" & others I quote from. As Leroy has said.....unfortunately, in Elvis World; there is always fact ,myth & what "someone" says without proof to "make oneself appear 'in the know."
There is also I've found ...."real people " that knew Elvis that will NOT discuss anything on a forum. And, IF you want to remain their friend.....you'd better keep your mouth shut !!
In the long run; I guess if one has "inside info", it's best NOT to post it on a public forum. IMO; it's what a real friend might do......
These people I just call up & chat for awhile .....assuring them I won't spread it around ...and I keep my promise .

[vulcandude]

For the last week since this issue came to light again, I became very angry and upset because Jumpsuit Junkie couldn't just take my word as a die hard Elvis fan, and believe what I said was true, especially when others did believe what I said. I have no reason to lie, nor do I lie, and I especially would not lie about the things I stated regarding Priscilla, Elvis, and the jumpsuits. I agonized as to whether I should post again, and even got so angry at Jumpsuit Junkie, that I took my anger out on a friend. I also came very close several times to just deciding to tell him off. But, trying to be the better person, I apologized to my friend, and decided against telling Jumpsuit Junkie off. Instead, as before, I will say this....I know Priscilla and Lisa Marie, I believe what they tell me, I trust them as friends do. I also will say that if you want to believe what I tell you that's fine, if not, that's fine too, and Jumpsuit Junkie "That's The Way It Is".

[ajr]

I can understand your frustration,vulcandude .

It is as you say .....believe IF you want OR don't believe if you don't want . It's not like it's a life or death thing....Shoot, we're not even writing a book. If so, we can leave that part out.


I do understand what JJ means too . I had to break myself from insisting on "proof posiitive" on everything. I had to stop that or else waste my time being involved in a no win arguememt all the time.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

In the Elvis-world there are always two stories; myths and facts. Matt is trying to separate facts from myths, just like I always try to do. It has nothing to do with having an opinion. It just that we are getting sick and tired of all those myths that are being kept alive and taken for granted. Myths that are being spread by people who claim to be of any importance but will not answer the door if you ring the bell.
We're here on this forum, not only to share pictures but also to share information. We like to get to know Elvis a little bit better than we already do. But what is the info worth if you can't rely on the fact that the info is true?

Having an opinion is a good thing. But if you're not able or willing to back it up it's just as hollow as a drum.

Hi Leroy, it is because of the information you have shared with me that I have leaned so much from you! I trust you implicitly and I am confident the information provided comes from a trustworthy source, if ever I have questioned something that I am unsure of, you with provide the source of your information and will go back and ratify to ensure that your information is kosher. I thank you for your patience and the fact that you never get angry should I question information.

Goes back to, (talking about all opinions given on boards, people can only go on what they read, most of the time, unfortunately) only the people involved know, or if someone was there, as a first hand opinion (which is still not 100% reliable, unless objective).
Jess

Jess, when people make bold statements and quote people in the third person, are we to simply believe what they say as true, when other highly respected individuals have commented to the contrary?

When you throw Priscilla's name into the equation it insinuates that the comment is true, makes the argument look solid to those less informed.

This is something I had to learn....the hard way. I do agree with this statement I always try to "back up my statements" & others I quote from. As Leroy has said.....unfortunately, in Elvis World; there is always fact ,myth & what "someone" says without proof to "make oneself appear 'in the know."
There is also I've found ...."real people " that knew Elvis that will NOT discuss anything on a forum. And, IF you want to remain their friend.....you'd better keep your mouth shut !!
In the long run; I guess if one has "inside info", it's best NOT to post it on a public forum. IMO; it's what a real friend might do......
These people I just call up & chat for awhile .....assuring them I won't spread it around ...and I keep my promise .

ajr, although I do not know you personally I have a lot of respect for your comments and the way you handle yourself. I may not always agree with what you say, but when you make a statement I find it credible. We have had our differences, the world simply would not be fun if we were all the same

For the last week since this issue came to light again, I became very angry and upset because Jumpsuit Junkie couldn't just take my word as a die hard Elvis fan, and believe what I said was true, especially when others did believe what I said. I have no reason to lie, nor do I lie, and I especially would not lie about the things I stated regarding Priscilla, Elvis, and the jumpsuits. I agonized as to whether I should post again, and even got so angry at Jumpsuit Junkie, that I took my anger out on a friend. I also came very close several times to just deciding to tell him off. But, trying to be the better person, I apologized to my friend, and decided against telling Jumpsuit Junkie off. Instead, as before, I will say this....I know Priscilla and Lisa Marie, I believe what they tell me, I trust them as friends do. I also will say that if you want to believe what I tell you that's fine, if not, that's fine too, and Jumpsuit Junkie "That's The Way It Is".

I have never, ever questioned you as a fan! I truly believe you are a fan.

I do however have difficulty in believing your relationship with Priscilla and LMP. Why would I believe you, have we earned each others respect in any way? We are both many miles apart typing messages on a Elvis message board......... If you are a friend of the Presley's why would you be angry if I don't believe you..... You have not said one thing to make me believe that you do, of course it is your prerogative if you do not want to share any information that would give you any credibility.

You cannot post in threads claiming this is what Priscilla has told me then claim the 5th when this is challenged.

Quite simply "Put Up or Shut Up" or do not use Priscilla as a safety net!

I am quite happy to eat humble pie and publicly apologise if sufficient evidence is put forward.

Matt

[Diane]

I too dislike it very much if someone just gives a hint that they know something but won't tell you what it is....unfair and frustrating to say the least. If something is supposed to be kept secret as like in a "source", then don't say anything in the first place. To me, that's a power play.

Diane

[Johnny]

I, for one, agree that sources should be mentioned, especially if there is any doubt in someone's mind about the credibility.

[presley31]

I too dislike it very much if someone just gives a hint that they know something but won't tell you what it is....unfair and frustrating to say the least. If something is supposed to be kept secret as like in a "source", then don't say anything in the first place. To me, that's a power play.

Diane

Yep l agree diane

[goodelvisgirl]

hi ok i don't know what going on but i will get back on topic and say i like the elvis style in the 60's and the 70's very flamboyant and flash but can be very simple at times

[Unchained Melody]

Love that photo on the right taken in October of 1976. The time period Elvis was really getting back on the ball so to speak

[Princesspixie]

Elvis always looked sharp and extremely unique no matter what the wore what a beautiful human being !

[utmom2008]

So before I get really angry and say something I'll either regret or that'll get me banned, once again I will say to you.....'Nuff said.

if you are 37 years of age (as in you profile) in 1985 you would have been 14 or 15 years of age?

So what you are saying is that Priscilla would talk to you about Elvis on a personal level?

I am not calling you a liar, I simply find it incredulous that a woman of Priscilla's position communicates with someone from this board who in other threads asks questions I would have thought of as common knowledge.

I will leave this issue alone unless required to respond!

So....Priscilla was confiding her personal thoughts at the time to a 14 year old?
I guess he should have gone ahead and said...it appears the end result was the same!

[TotallyInsane]

OK - I have a question here.
If I tell you I've been corresponding with Ginger Alden but won't give you her email address - would you believe me?

[cameron]

OK - I have a question here.
If I tell you I've been corresponding with Ginger Alden but won't give you her email address - would you believe me?

I'd believe you, Gail. Why would you lie?
Besides, I don't care what she has to say .

[Unchained Melody]

It's not that its hard to beleive that someone here was a friend of Priscilla's I just would find it hard to beleive she had deep personal conversations with a 14 year old kid about the personal life of Elvis.

[TotallyInsane]

However, there are some who wouldn't believe me cause I wouldn't "prove it" to them!!
After all, it can't be found in a book!!!

[Unchained Melody]

However, there are some who wouldn't believe me cause I wouldn't "prove it" to them!!
After all, it can't be found in a book!!!

I would beleive you