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    Elvis Bi-Polar ?

    Here's a link for an interesting article about Elvis that sort of made me think alot about some of Elvis's obsessions and personality traits. What do you guys think?http://www.tcb-world.com/showthread.php?t=3938
    Got my family, my kids, my books and my music, I'm good, yeah, I'm good.....

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    I think there is a possibility that Elvis was bi-polar.

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    There are both yin and yang qualities to be found in the cosmos, but after reading this article my thoughts are: 'whose business are they meddling with'?

    Who are they to say that Elvis was overprotected? Or to talk about 'dysfuntionality'? I would have to say 'grr' or something like that.

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    They're people just trying to make sense of things. Now harm in that. Folly, quite possibly, but no harm.

    I believe most fans would agree he was suffering from depression - clinical or otherwise - and had a number of other psychological eccentricities. We all do, though.

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    a folly good fellow?

    Well, I'd say that people are trying to make sense - but I do ask myself some questions:

    1. If I have had a discussion about Elvis with another person, will I post it on the internet? (especially in the context of private subjects)

    2. If I publish a discussion, just how do I present the information?

    I was just getting a bit angry; although I understand and know that some may say that this is eccentric (some say that I am weird - yeah, sure I remember all my posts related to Billy Gilman and I feel ((that for some of us)) this will seem to be a 'psychological eccentricity' for sure), it's just the way I felt (getting angry) after having read the article. I think it's very easy to point at:

    1. his childhood with some very difficult circumstances
    2. the affectionate relationship with his mother Gladys
    3. structures in families
    4. illness
    5. emotions
    6. dependency

    I'm sorry, but it would be better to let a loving priest or Pope Benedict the 16th talk about Elvis instead of psychiatrist's (and those co-operating with them).
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    I don't follow at all.

    It seems you've had a very personal reaction to the material in question. Does that make it ethically wrong? Not to me.

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    > Elvis Bi-Polar ?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticSun
    There are both yin and yang qualities to be found in the cosmos, but after reading this article my thoughts are: 'whose business are they meddling with'?

    Who are they to say that Elvis was overprotected? Or to talk about 'dysfuntionality'? I would have to say 'grr' or something like that.

    I read it and I agree with you %100


    Aly
    Man,I just work here!(Elvis 68')

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    agreeing is not all-important

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryogenic
    I don't follow at all.

    It seems you've had a very personal reaction to the material in question. Does that make it ethically wrong? Not to me.
    Yes, it hurts me to see the way people write about Elvis. There's so much more than just psychological eccentricity. He was a great singer, for example.

    Some people may agree with me and others don't. That's okay - we've got the possibility to make up our own mind.

    Some may say that it is ethically fine (cryogenic), while others agree with me 100% (ayda). It's alright to exchange thoughts.
    Last edited by EnigmaticSun; 01-26-2006 at 04:03 PM. Reason: minor error

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticSun
    Yes, it hurts me to see the way people write about Elvis. There's so much more than just psychological eccentricity. He was a great singer, for example.

    Some people may agree with me and others don't. That's okay - we've got the possibility to make up our own mind.

    Some may say that it is ethically fine (cryogenic), while others agree with me 100% (ayda). It's alright to exchange thoughts.
    I agree with you EnigmaticSun.That,s really some exagerated psychological stuff about Elvis! why do they try to show him an eccentric person?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orwell1976
    I think there is a possibility that Elvis was bi-polar.
    Anything is possible, ......... but is it likely?

    I tend to think not.

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    Rule #1:

    The good physician knows not only what disease his patient has, ................. but what patient has the disease.

    In this discussion, it is a critical consideration to keep proper perspective:

    In the case of BI-POLARISM -----------> you simply cannot apply the standard diagnostic criteria to somebody in EP's place / his life / circumstances.

    Psychiatry / Psychology is not an exact science. Besides, if you really get right down to it, we ALL have our own varying degrees of abnormalities going on inside of us. (ie: The only "normal" people you think you know, ........ are the ones you don't know very well).



    Cappy

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    Welcome Back Cappy.... I do believe that you have the right idea on that one too.. ha ha ha... Good to read your posts again.. Dovey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dovey
    Welcome Back Cappy.... I do believe that you have the right idea on that one too.. ha ha ha... Good to read your posts again.. Dovey
    Thanks again, "Dovey."

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    To be honest, .............. I came back for a short visit simply because I had to address some ignorance with Maurice Colgan (he's also my personal "stalker") regarding his bogus letters (again) ........ on a thread he dug-up from deep in the archives. I guess he got lonely & wanted to play with me. He must have missed me, ....... but I did forget to bring him a new pair of stronger glasses that I promised him.

    (Had a hard time getting back on this site. Password, etc., ............ wouldn't work for a while there. Not sure why. Had to re-set, contact administration, etc.. A big pain in the posterior, just to come back for a little bit of Maurice play-time).



    Cappy

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    Or is it because FECC is locked today Cappy?
    "When You Let Your Head get Too Big, It'll Break your Neck" Elvis Presley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Elwood David
    Thanks again, "Dovey."

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    To be honest, .............. I came back for a short visit simply because I had to address some ignorance with Maurice Colgan (he's also my personal "stalker") regarding his bogus letters (again) ........ on a thread he dug-up from deep in the archives. I guess he got lonely & wanted to play with me. He must have missed me, ....... but I did forget to bring him a new pair of stronger glasses that I promised him.

    (Had a hard time getting back on this site. Password, etc., ............ wouldn't work for a while there. Not sure why. Had to re-set, contact administration, etc.. A big pain in the posterior, just to come back for a little bit of Maurice play-time).



    Cappy
    Ahoy Captain N8! Me a "Stalker"? Let's be really truthful. I only came here because of your reply to veronik's post about the famous letters. Which I found as I was searching the WWW just recently. True.

    Talking about me in my absense was not very polite was it?!

    As far as Elvis's Manic Depression there is growing evidence Elvis may well have succumbed as his health deteriorated. Those of us with first hand experience of the subject (in considerable depth) tend to feel there is room for further investigation. Considering all the evidence it is quite likely Elvis was indeed Bi-polar.

    On as many decks/levels as you like Captain


    Just Search yahoo or google.com for more info. It is out there, by professionals!

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    Liverbobs -



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    Seriously, though, ......... that whole "day-of-silence" thing is just a bit too PC-ish for my tastes.

    It is what it is, though, I suppose.

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    Maurice -

    I knew you would find this thread (wink!) ................................. "s-t-a-l-k-e-r."

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    Unfortunately, ............. you are as correct about EP being "Bi-Polar" as you are about your letters.


    Capt. N8
    ... just a fan ....

    PS - Believe it or not (& I know you won't), .............. but you are talking to a "professional" when it comes it this topic. (If you only knew, ................... winkity-wink!)

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    Yes I have spoken to many professional mental hospital Doctors who do not have a clue about Manic depression. They just keep prescribing the pills.

    Check out Gareth O' Callaghan a sufferer of Depression who wrote a book about his ordeal and how he conquered it.

    Gareth is a published novelist and radio show presenter here in Ireland. His very intelligent take from the INSIDE is absolutely brilliant. "Experts" consult him now:-)

    "A Day in Hope" his book tells of his lifetime struggle with the disorder.


    Now Captain/Master/Skipper of parenthesis get out of that

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    Maurice -

    There's nothing to "get out of" - except in your own mind (no pun intended).

    Believe what you want, on both topics (The Letters & Bi-Polarism).

    You're wrong on both counts.


    Capt. N8

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    Your oppinion carries all the weight of a snow flake.

    Yes, now you didn't ask.......... I enjoyed talkng about Elvis and the Elvis Festival on BBC Radio this morning..... for 20 minutes.


    The "Elvis at 13" statue was mentioned of course..........

    http://elvision.20megsfree.com/index...IME=1139602346

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    Happy Self-Promotion Maurice (aka: The Snowman)

    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan
    Your oppinion carries all the weight of a snow flake.
    Do you usually "stalk" snowflakes ?




    Capt. N8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Elwood David
    Anything is possible, ......... but is it likely?

    I tend to think not.

    -------------------------------------------

    Rule #1:

    The good physician knows not only what disease his patient has, ................. but what patient has the disease.

    In this discussion, it is a critical consideration to keep proper perspective:

    In the case of BI-POLARISM -----------> you simply cannot apply the standard diagnostic criteria to somebody in EP's place / his life / circumstances.

    Psychiatry / Psychology is not an exact science. Besides, if you really get right down to it, we ALL have our own varying degrees of abnormalities going on inside of us. (ie: The only "normal" people you think you know, ........ are the ones you don't know very well).

    Cappy
    Completely agree, consider the circumstances which Elvis had been put under and lived throughout his adult life!

    When you try to apply simplistic diagnosis of a complex set of circumstances you come off looking naive.

    Matt

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