Nash & Goldman - same breed?

[KPM]

The "Stupid Hillbilly" thing means the image of people living in the southern regions of the usa, not the real people. And to me Elvis' personality came close to that image. But as I said before, I admire Elvis' ability to perform a song and to entertain the crowd. That has nothing to do with the abilities of his brain. I am a fan of his music, not of his thoughts and opinions. Elvis was dumb enough to let everybody take advantage of him. He got fooled all through his life. But this has nothing to do with his voice and his style of singing. And that's what you hear on his records. They sold (and still sell) in large numbers. So you see, even a complete ***** can sell tons and tons of records. At least, when Mr. Parker is around.

I am beginning to suspect you are not an Elvis fan at all. To call anyone a complete ***** is a pretty broad statement. You seem to have a dim view of people whom you obviously know little about. Your choice of adjectives for people of the south is right out of a bad white trash novel. You are stereotyping Elvis as did Goldman. You are doing what many do, you are saying I have a special ability to climb into the head and brain of someone I never met, and I can tell you EXACTLY his level of understanding and logic. Its funny but you must be psychic. You are 17.

You also seem to subscribe to the Goldman theory of the lowest descriptive process. Instead of saying Elvis, in some ways, did not mature in certain aspects of life and career you call him a complete *****. He was not a man from the south-but a stupid hillbilly.
The Beatles were swindled into selling their own songs, most of there best material in the 60s. They were also taken advantage of with their Apple company by numerous inventors, artists, and business men. ***** low class Liverpoolians,
is how you would probably describe them. Micheal Jackson now owns a huge portion of the Beatles catalogue. I would say they were taken advantage of.
I am wondering if your real name is Scott. I met a young man in a Beatles chat site who hated Elvis and said he was going to go to an Elvis site and aggravate them. Your "stupid hillbilly" was a comment he made there. He was not liked even by the Beatle fans because of his lack of mannners.

[joanne]

I am beginning to suspect you are not an Elvis fan at all. To call anyone a complete ***** is a pretty broad statement. You seem to have a dim view of people whom you obviously know little about. Your choice of adjectives for people of the south is right out of a bad white trash novel. You are stereotyping Elvis as did Goldman. You are doing what many do, you are saying I have a special ability to climb into the head and brain of someone I never met, and I can tell you EXACTLY his level of understanding and logic. Its funny but you must be psychic. You are 17.

You also seem to subscribe to the Goldman theory of the lowest descriptive process. Instead of saying Elvis, in some ways, did not mature in certain aspects of life and career you call him a complete *****. He was not a man from the south-but a stupid hillbilly.
The Beatles were swindled into selling their own songs, most of there best material in the 60s. They were also taken advantage of with their Apple company by numerous inventors, artists, and business men. ***** low class Liverpoolians,
is how you would probably describe them. Micheal Jackson now owns a huge portion of the Beatles catalogue. I would say they were taken advantage of.
I am wondering if your real name is Scott. I met a young man in a Beatles chat site who hated Elvis and said he was going to go to an Elvis site and aggravate them. Your "stupid hillbilly" was a comment he made there. He was not liked even by the Beatle fans because of his lack of mannners.

Well said.
Come back lad when you`ve grown up you`re the *****.

[NEA]

Guys,

Let me just refer to my last post on this thread were I stated that this bigot's views as "Interestingly Disturbing", just let me re-phrase that to "Uninterestingly Disturbed" because this guy's on the wind-up...probably did the same kind of thing or doing the same kind of thing through University.

He has no respect for Elvis, with Elvis being born a Southerner.

Yes, this guy's a T W * T.

Infact, I would say it's probably "THE SON OF GOLDMAN"!!!!!!!!!!!...Yes, it's Alby Junior!

Can you imagine that guys?!

[NEA]

Guys,

Sorry I typed a * between the T W T on that last post there...it should be the letter 'A'.

Cheers,

NEA.

[KPM]

Elvis did copy from other singers, but he did it perfectly. And Elvis did not invent Rock'n Roll! He "just" sang it that great.

Elvis began to record in 53 and had been working on his singing style for 3 or 4 years before that.Thats All Right out in 54. Chuck Berry first hit in 55. Little Richard-55 Bo Diddily-55. He had never heard of them until 55. Jerry Lee Lewis out in 56. He met Jerrry Lee AFTER he had left Sun to RCA.
Elvis never claimed to have invented rock, but he was the one who sold it. He was the one who made it world wide. He had many influences Dean Martin, Eddy Arnold, Bing Crosby, Mario Lanza, Ernest Tubb, BB King, Rufus Thomas, Roy Hamilton, The Blackwood Brothers, The Statesman Quartet, Hovie Lister. Now out of this group-name the rock-in-roll singer Elvis copied???? None are rock singers, because there was no rock! Middle of the road-Deano! Country- Eddy Arnold!
Rufus Thomas, Roy Hamilton-R&B! Blackwoods Brothers-Gospel! Now add all these up and shake your hips-Rock-n-Roll!!!!!
Now let me also say that everyone of the above named artists also had influences on there styles, no artist who creates is not without a starting point and a reason for wanting to do what they do. Any artist today even has there influences which helped develope their style. But the big bang is ELVIS!!! Fact

[orwell1976]

Your entitled to your opinion. As you never met Elvis and seem to not know much about his intellectual capabilities I would think it quite naive for you to make such bold statements. I can only presume you enjoyed Alberts book on John Lennon as well?

Just out of curiosity what other Elvis books have you read and do you form opinions on peoples intelligence level from authors who didn't know the person at hand?

I can tell you one thing Elvis had in abundance... respect.

Interesting, when did you meet the king to know how perfect he was?

[joanne]

I think the best thing is for everyone to ignore this stupid hillbilly.

[0349054]

Interesting, when did you meet the king to know how perfect he was?

It was just after you met him and decided he was a stupid hillbilly.

[NEA]

LOL...Nice One, 0349054!!

[KPM]

Orwell is "17"and seems to have an uncanny ability at unraveling lifes mysteries. (wink-wink)

[KPM]

At least he seems "17"

[joanne]

It was just after you met him and decided he was a stupid hillbilly.

GREAT ANSWER!

[orwell1976]

Go back to the history books son. How old are you?

I'm just too clever to think someone was perfect just because I like his music. You just read the wrong books, mother!

[0349054]

No one said Elvis was perfect. But since your so clever, what other works of literary genius have you studied then apart from Goldmans trash?

NEA & joanne - Thanks, but im tiring of this thread now, how about ye?

[joanne]

I feel the same I prefer intelligent conversation.

[joanne]

Just ignore him and he might crawl back under his rock.

[0349054]

Probabaly curled up in bed with Alberts other books now!

[NEA]

Guys,

This is getting a bit boring yes, I agree - I don't think Orville...er...sorry, Orwell, is clever at all - he doesn't appear to have any smart 'student-type' answers for himself! And, how can 0349054 be his Mother?!

He probably gets his rocks off to his dead Father's books!

Oh, I know, I'm so childish sometimes - hush my mouth...LOL

End of.

[joanne]

Guys,

This is getting a bit boring yes, I agree - I don't think Orville...er...sorry, Orwell, is clever at all - he doesn't appear to have any smart 'student-type' answers for himself! And, how can 0349054 be his Mother?!

He probably gets his rocks off to his dead Father's books!

Oh, I know, I'm so childish sometimes - hush my mouth...LOL

End of.

You make me laugh!
I think he was referring to me as mother because I called him son.
He could be Orville the duck thinking about it.
I WISH I COULD FLY...

[NEA]

Hey Jo,

You could be right - Orville the duck he is...he quacks on about a load of nonsense which possibly stems from the fact that he is green with envy about Elvis and the way of Southern hospitality.

Jeez, that son of yours, Jo...that son of yours...LOL

NEA.