Dovey, I don't think that's quite what the good Captain was referring to with that dictionary extract. But yeah... I'd LOVE to visit Graceland at some point; as artificial and consumer-geared as it may now be (the same applies to Elvis' original birthplace, BTW - fresh paint, super shiny interior, curtains and electricity! <-------- MASSIVE historical revisions!).
Turns out I was half-wrong; or half-right.Originally Posted by Captain Elwood David
It's his bedspread. But I'd say, in terms of tackiness, the two are comparable:
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/news...ate_fair.shtml
It's a good thing we don't upload posts by scrawling on a tablet and submitting our handwriting. Then we'd get people trying to use the psuedoscience of graphology.
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." - Doctor Who
Too true.
Incidentally, I once came across an Elvis book on Amazon that reminded me of you - it's premise was specifically the MYTHS of Elvis-dom, how they came about and, of course, how and why the particular ones they chose to look at were so fallacious. I was pleased when it went into stuff that even Guralnick failed to acknowledge in Last Train... I wish I could remember the book!
EDIT: Perseverance pays off! Found it!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/081...83155&st=books
Here's a great quote that I was essentially paraphrasing above:
After Presley became famous and the house of his birth a tourist attraction, local residents took great care to turn the shack into a quaint bungalow by painting the outside, wallpapering the inside, and adding curtains to the windows, amenities the Presleys could have had afforded. They also furnished the inside with a sewing machine, a high chair, and electric appliances (the Presleys did not have electricity), and they added a porch swing and landscaping. With a stroke of the paintbrush, the Presleys' abject poverty was upgraded to humble beginnings for the sake of the official Elvis Presley myth.
Last edited by Cryogenic; 10-19-2005 at 09:11 AM.
Joanne, I know that you are absolutely right about the upstairs of Elvis's home. I guess the only thing they can't take from him and the fans is that his Spirit still lives on the Graceland grounds that he loved so much. I do not plan on returning but I did feel his spirit and will be content with that for sure. Dovey
[QUOTE=Captain Elwood David]LOL!!
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Menwithbrokenhearts -
Only a cretin would attempt to psychoanalyze others over the internet.
Psychoanalysis is also the ultimate Grand-Daddy of Pseudoscience, as far as I'm concerned.
Such psychobabble claims are ultimately unfalisifiable.
Btw, ........ love your positive projecting onto EP, as well.
(get it ?)
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Yes, I get it. Trust me, I would never attempt to psychoanalyze others just an attempt to understand why someone would attempt to psychoanalyze others "Only a cretin would attempt to...." in such condescending and sarcastic tones that would only be considered personal attacks in my book. I agree that certain conversations require certain negative responses but only in regards to the subject being presented. Sad when someone has to include personal attacks to get their point across. No more from me on this subject, too much space being taken up on this thread that is off subject.
About the bedroom, sounds like it wouldn't be worth it anyway considering the changes. Might be best to keep some of his life private anyway. I think he has been exploited enough. And the whole idea, as someone else mentioned, of fans staring and gawking at the space where he died repulses me.
That is all.....
Got my family, my kids, my books and my music, I'm good, yeah, I'm good.....
It would have been more dignified if the bedroom WAS kept private, perhaps (however tacky it actually is/was)...but money talks. EPE have already pushed the boundaries and proven they have little regard for such ephemeral concepts as tact/restraint/taste/decency when it comes to business. The almighty dollar rules all. And I don't really begrudge EPE for that. Supply and demand, supply and demand... We do the demanding and they do the supplying.
No more "sad" than when a "newbie" comes aboard atop their shining white horse touting their purity while making erroneous statements about how other long time members are not informative / helpful.
In fact, this is a blatant example as to your ignorance on a number of levels.
Here's another, .......................... there is nothing thinly veiled about my sarcasm. I consider that to be a massive understatement of fact.
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Respect is a two-way street.
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On that note (& back on-topic):
EPE is truly respecting EP's privacy, ............... by hauling all of the upstairs contents and placing it all on display down in the annex for the tours.
(Just some more thinly veiled sarcasm, ............... in case it weren't obvious ............. (wink!!) ............ )
Capt. "EL." / N880EP
... just a fan ....
[QUOTE=Captain Elwood David]No more "sad" than when a "newbie" comes aboard atop their shining white horse touting their purity while making erroneous statements about how other long time members are not informative / helpful.
In fact, this is a blatant example as to your ignorance on a number of levels."
Ok, truce. First of all I never said you were not informative or helpful. I think your posts are.I just can't come out and start calling people names when I disagree with them.
And maybe I am a newbie here, and I like that because there is so much for me to do and see. All of you guys have made this a great place, but this does not mean I am ignorant by any means. That's a pretty broad generalization,when maybe in fact I am not as informed as some of you on all things Elvis. That's ok too.
I'm here to talk and learn.
I probably shouldn't have posted my first posting on this thread that way because I knew it would provoke an attack and the banter would go on and on. That was not my intention.
And by no means am I pure ... nor do I own a white horse...
I am not trying to make enemies here, I would like to stay on and make friends. It's not very often that I get a chance to talk about Elvis.
Constructive criticism is always welcome.
Truce?
No enemies here, least of which me.... nor do I own a white horse...
I am not trying to make enemies here, I would like to stay on and make friends. It's not very often that I get a chance to talk about Elvis.
Truce?
As the first magnanimous gesture of our new truce .....................
Do you wanna borrow my white horse?
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Welcome aboard, "Menwithbrokenhearts."
Capt. "EL." / N880EP
... just a fan ....
Thanks.......No enemies here, least of which me.
As the first magnanimous gesture of our new truce .....................
Do you wanna borrow my white horse?
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Welcome aboard, "Menwithbrokenhearts."
Capt. "EL." / N880EP
... just a fan ....
Captain Elwood and Menwithbrokenhearts... you are both gentlemen and it so wonderful to see how easily you work out differences without any anger. Love it!!!!
Dovey
Photo's of Elvis' bedroom can be seen by clicking here.
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Last edited by neldiS; 10-25-2005 at 09:16 PM.
Thank you stillrockin and welcome to TCB. I enjoyed looking at the photos of Elvis' bedroom. I find them very nice and I like the way it was done. Back in the early 70's that was considered great decorating styles.
Thank you again.
Tommy
I dream a world where man no other man
will scorn. Where LOVE will bless the earth
and peace its paths adorn...
no I don't think they will or should open the upstairs and elvis' bedroom to the public.There already showing so much,something has to be kept private...
It's in Elvis' best interest that it's kept private in my opinion..
-SatninLove
"There's A Sweet Sweet Spirit In This Place"....
I think it should remain private out of respect for Elvis.
ELVIS ALWAYS
I don't think upstairs will ever be open to the public.
When we were there last week I talked with the guy at the front of the house who seemed to know the most about GL. He listed a ton of reasons why the upstairs will never be opened to the public. As he said..."the upstairs was Elvis' private space even when he was living." Another reason he mentioned that made sense was the fact that it would be a logistical nightmare.
That's true. In order to control the flow of visitors in a comfortable way it would probably require major renovation to the house's original features and I doubt if any of us would want to see that happen.
Another reason he mentioned that made sense was the fact that it would be a logistical nightmare.
'Taking Care of Beaulieu'.
He also said that since it's been designated a landmark that no major remodeling and/or construction can be done to the home.
Glad to hear it
So was I!Glad to hear it
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