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[Dudcowboy_1]

I do not believe Elvis used hard drugs...if he used it he would have white pus in his mouth or around his noise. And he never did.

Now I do believe he use a lot of pain medication because he had a lot of heath problems at the end. With his eyes, back, and etc. But that goes to show you how much he loved his fans. He was in so much pain up on that stage but still poured his heart out on that stage for us.

We love you Elvis!

Tim Dudley

[Dudcowboy_1]

I forgot a lot of things in last post.

His family on his mother side where famous for having heart problems. I believe his mother would have died from these heart problems if her lungs didn't get to her first. Also, that makes me think what happened that night his heart finally gave out and exploded. I think Joe told me he had like 1 to 2 minute to make peace with everything.

As for his bodyguards there are a few that I can type here and I say I don't ever want talk to them. Sonny is one of them. Red his brother wont even talk to him anymore. "Elvis What Happen" was published by a gossip magizen editor I forgot his name. So right there goes and tells yea half the crap in that book is lies. I believe a lot of Elvis problems where from some of the guys on Memphis Mafia and his Step-brother.

Like I said in many post you can tell who LOVED elvis and ones that loved elvis for his money and roof over their heads. Elvis Step-brother said he found Elvis. Which we all know Joe E. did. Elvis I think tell me if I'm wrong wrote David out of the will so he's doing anything right now to give Elvis bad name.

One of the nicest people I've ever met that truely truely loved Elvis was Dick Grob. This man would go to the end of the earth for Elvis. If you get a chance find a copy of his book read it. I bought it and never put it down until I was done...no lie stayed up almost 2 days reading this book.

Love to all,

Tim Dudley

[0349054]

I do not believe Elvis used hard drugs...if he used it he would have white pus in his mouth or around his noise. And he never did.

Now I do believe he use a lot of pain medication because he had a lot of heath problems at the end. With his eyes, back, and etc. But that goes to show you how much he loved his fans. He was in so much pain up on that stage but still poured his heart out on that stage for us.

We love you Elvis!

Tim Dudley

Just had to step in here.

Elvis used hard drugs from time to time. That's fact. He used prescription medication also.

[0349054]

I forgot a lot of things in last post.

His family on his mother side where famous for having heart problems. I believe his mother would have died from these heart problems if her lungs didn't get to her first. Also, that makes me think what happened that night his heart finally gave out and exploded. I think Joe told me he had like 1 to 2 minute to make peace with everything.

As for his bodyguards there are a few that I can type here and I say I don't ever want talk to them. Sonny is one of them. Red his brother wont even talk to him anymore. "Elvis What Happen" was published by a gossip magizen editor I forgot his name. So right there goes and tells yea half the crap in that book is lies. I believe a lot of Elvis problems where from some of the guys on Memphis Mafia and his Step-brother.

Like I said in many post you can tell who LOVED elvis and ones that loved elvis for his money and roof over their heads. Elvis Step-brother said he found Elvis. Which we all know Joe E. did. Elvis I think tell me if I'm wrong wrote David out of the will so he's doing anything right now to give Elvis bad name.

One of the nicest people I've ever met that truely truely loved Elvis was Dick Grob. This man would go to the end of the earth for Elvis. If you get a chance find a copy of his book read it. I bought it and never put it down until I was done...no lie stayed up almost 2 days reading this book.

Love to all,

Tim Dudley

Again -

Elvis's mother died from Cirrhosis of the liver, nothing to do with her lungs.

I am beginning to wonder if you did speak to Joe, because he would never say those things. Elvis was found dead, and according to medical experts dropped dead, he had no time to make peace with anyone. Joe to my knowledge has never suggested Elvis had time to make peace with the world. It was a SUDDEN death.

Elvis What Happened? - Everyone has their own opinions on that book, however if people here are going to be realistic, 50% of it is NOT lies. That book is fairly accurate, just because it doesent sugar coat Elvis does not make it lies. Yes, it does focus more on the sensational, but that's what was intended with it. The book holds more truth than your recent posts here.

Ginger Alden found Elvis not Joe Esposito. David Stanley wasn't included in the will, as no one except Vernon and Lisa were - a whole other story as to why that is.

Dick Grob lied to Elvis about his military experience and wrote a bogus book claiming Ginger Alden called the National Enquirer which she didn't, as a journalist there confirmed it was a male voice who rang.

[meg]

Again -

Elvis's mother died from Cirrhosis of the liver, nothing to do with her lungs.

I am beginning to wonder if you did speak to Joe, because he would never say those things. Elvis was found dead, and according to medical experts dropped dead, he had no time to make peace with anyone. Joe to my knowledge has never suggested Elvis had time to make peace with the world. It was a SUDDEN death.

Elvis What Happened? - Everyone has their own opinions on that book, however if people here are going to be realistic, 50% of it is NOT lies. That book is fairly accurate, just because it doesent sugar coat Elvis does not make it lies. Yes, it does focus more on the sensational, but that's what was intended with it. The book holds more truth than your recent posts here.

Ginger Alden found Elvis not Joe Esposito. David Stanley wasn't included in the will, as no one except Vernon and Lisa were - a whole other story as to why that is.

Dick Grob lied to Elvis about his military experience and wrote a bogus book claiming Ginger Alden called the National Enquirer which she didn't, as a journalist there confirmed it was a male voice who rang.

So it is

[Dudcowboy_1]

hmmmm...will yea I know Elvis did a little of hard drugs. Prisicall said they tired LSD once on that program "Elvis By The Presley's." I never said he didn't do that hard stuff. As for lung thing I met the liver. Sometimes my typo's get the best of me.

as for the death thing I've worked/voluntreed for many years when my grandmother was head of nursing home. I just never once see someone just drop dead in 1 second. It may seem like a second or two but its more like hour. I had man die in my arms my grandpa from horse riding accident. He just didn't have heart attack. He had one fainted then before EMT's got there died. SO DON"T TELL ME IT WAS FAST. Never is.

As for talking to Joe. Don't believe me? http://www.elvisfantasyfest.com/ I believe Joe is some where else this year but we have Jerry coming.

I never once said I knew everything. I'm only 22 years old and I learn more and more about elvis everyday.

Now tell me this? Why do you hide behind numbers not a real name?

Tim Dudley "A Tribute to Elvis Show"
Dudcowboy_1@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[meg]

I just never once see someone just drop dead in 1 second. It may seem like a second or two but its more like hour.

Is possible in some seconds You have to learn you don?t know that much

[Dudcowboy_1]

didn't I just say "I don't know everything?" LOL...good lord. LMAO!

[0349054]

hmmmm...will yea I know Elvis did a little of hard drugs. Prisicall said they tired LSD once on that program "Elvis By The Presley's." I never said he didn't do that hard stuff. As for lung thing I met the liver. Sometimes my typo's get the best of me.

as for the death thing I've worked/voluntreed for many years when my grandmother was head of nursing home. I just never once see someone just drop dead in 1 second. It may seem like a second or two but its more like hour. I had man die in my arms my grandpa from horse riding accident. He just didn't have heart attack. He had one fainted then before EMT's got there died. SO DON"T TELL ME IT WAS FAST. Never is.

As for talking to Joe. Don't believe me? http://www.elvisfantasyfest.com/ I believe Joe is some where else this year but we have Jerry coming.

I never once said I knew everything. I'm only 22 years old and I learn more and more about elvis everyday.

Now tell me this? Why do you hide behind numbers not a real name?

Tim Dudley "A Tribute to Elvis Show"
Dudcowboy_1@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

Firstly....Priscilla's book or her comments are not exactly a good source for reliable Elvis information. For your information Elvis used other drugs apart from LSD, and trying LSD is not the same as being a continuous user of the drug.

Elvis died within a matter of seconds/minutes. If you want to take it up with a medical professional be my guest, im not going to argue over something like this on an Elvis message board.

As for talking to Joe, I do question he said some of the things you profess, and I will ask him, as I find it highly unlikely.

As far as me telling you things about myself......I don't feel any need. I'm here to discuss Elvis, im not hiding behind anything, I just don't feel the need to share much about myself with strangers.

Get your hands on some of the quality objective material available. Elvis By The Presley's is just a whitewash.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

This post is over a year old and still people are contributing to it

I still have thoughts on the subject ...........................

Elvis predominently wore the Mexican Sundial Jumpsuit throughout 1977 (non new in 1977 (worn), 2 new in 1976 (Colourful Flame only worn twice!!), 8 new in 1975, 10 new 1974, 17 new in 1973, 14 new in 1972, 13 new in 1971, 13 new in 1970) and the question that springs to mind is; Elvis was the eternal showman there must have come a point in 1976 and 1977 when he had given up or felt he couldn't carry on with the stageware, this just wouldn't be only about the stageware. Elvis' life and state of mind in 1977 was not that of even two years previous, where he seemed to care about his appearance so............... was the end inevitable? Looking with the benefit of hindsight it looks like a slow car crash without any help from those around. Even those who are classed as the good guys and stay true to Elvis' memory don't look good under close inspection.

Matt

[diamond]

didn't I just say "I don't know everything?" LOL...good lord. LMAO!

I think a certain 22 year old should take note of what people are saying on this thread. After all some people have spent more than 22 years researching what happened on that sad day, and still havent got to the bottom of it.

[jak]

Elvis' personal life and final days have been analyzed over and over again countless times.The facts that arise are not always to everyone's liking and this is what causes dissention among the fans.Some fans just wont accept the reality and choose to ignore it.As stated earlier the "What Happened" book isnt a pack of lies and it gives you some insight to Elvis that enables you to see through the image that was so carefully protected over the years.Other books just gloss over the facts because thats what so many fans want.I dont know about Elvis "hard" drug use meaning street drugs.I know the prescription drugs he took were just as powerfull and addictive.Personally I think he basically avoided street drugs because in his mind he could validate the presrciption stuff and that somehow made it right.If i remember correctly it's speculated the moment Elvis went into cardiac arrest he lunged forward and threw his book.Nobody knows how long he survived but from all accounts he expired rapidly thankfully.
Jak

[Dudcowboy_1]

Yea I see what everyone is saying. Just way he came across. And I am sorry to everyone else. But when I read his information he's 22 also. So he knows just about as much as I do.lol

So to everyone else I am sorry if I sounded like butthead. And your right I am takin note and I read more than Elvis By The Presley I have almost every book out from when he was alive tell now.

Well, never know. But in way I do agree on this. I think his time was near. And to me that has be a very scary feeling. As for me talking to Joe and other guys...Go head ask they are my memories and if no one wants to believe thats fine I know the truth(mean if I did meet him or not.)

Take care and God Bless!

Tim Dudley

[0349054]

Yea I see what everyone is saying. Just way he came across. And I am sorry to everyone else. But when I read his information he's 22 also. So he knows just about as much as I do.lol

So to everyone else I am sorry if I sounded like butthead. And your right I am takin note and I read more than Elvis By The Presley I have almost every book out from when he was alive tell now.

Well, never know. But in way I do agree on this. I think his time was near. And to me that has be a very scary feeling. As for me talking to Joe and other guys...Go head ask they are my memories and if no one wants to believe thats fine I know the truth(mean if I did meet him or not.)

Take care and God Bless!

Tim Dudley

Never said you didn't meet them, all im saying is that I find it hard to believe Joe said Elvis had time to make peace with the world before he died.

Apart from that, do a bit more research on Elvis and read everyone's point of view and then come to your own conclusions, but take some advice and don't let a sugar coated commercial image become your perception of reality.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I dont know about Elvis "hard" drug use meaning street drugs.I know the prescription drugs he took were just as powerfull and addictive.Personally I think he basically avoided street drugs because in his mind he could validate the presrciption stuff and that somehow made it right.

I have heard the LSD story before and also about the Army years taking uppers to stay awake etc, I definately believe the comment you made about the distinction of hard and soft drugs in Elvis' mind. Lets be clear drugs are drugs whether for medical or recreational reasons, it's the justification that can get a little skewed. (I know people will be throwing their hands in the air at this point) Initially Elvis would have taken drugs for one condition or another, the body then became dependent and perhaps, just perhaps Elvis liked the side effect of how they made him feel and the continuation thereafter would be justified for ligitimate reasons.

The guys around Elvis even if not complicit in the supply of drugs to Elvis should be ashamed of themselves, they more than anybody else had seen the effect the medication had on him and should have taken affirmative action despite any consequences they thought would result from doing so.

The Book "Elvis What Happend" in my opinion came 3 years too late to make any difference and was done out of spite rather than a wake up call.

JJ

[0349054]

I have heard the LSD story before and also about the Army years taking uppers to stay awake etc, I definately believe the comment you made about the distinction of hard and soft drugs in Elvis' mind. Lets be clear drugs are drugs whether for medical or recreational reasons, it's the justification that can get a little skewed. (I know people will be throwing their hands in the air at this point) Initially Elvis would have taken drugs for one condition or another, the body then became dependent and perhaps, just perhaps Elvis liked the side effect of how they made him feel and the continuation thereafter would be justified for ligitimate reasons.

The guys around Elvis even if not complicit in the supply of drugs to Elvis should be ashamed of themselves, they more than anybody else had seen the effect the medication had on him and should have taken affirmative action despite any consequences they thought would result from doing so.

The Book "Elvis What Happend" in my opinion came 3 years too late to make any difference and was done out of spite rather than a wake up call.

JJ

Very true JJ, although ultimately I feel Elvis needed to help Elvis if anything substantial regarding his drug habit was to happen. At the end of the day it was his responsibility for his health and his life, no one else's.

[jak]

Its easy to blame the guys around Elvis but those guys couldnt stop his drug use.The person afflicted must be willing to help himself first and Elvis just didnt do it.Surely the revenge factor played a role in the releasing of the book but there was no way Elvis could have kept the veil of secrecy around him forever.By the time the book was released the wheels were coming off and he was out of control.
Jak

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Very true JJ, although ultimately I feel Elvis needed to help Elvis if anything substantial regarding his drug habit was to happen. At the end of the day it was his responsibility for his health and his life, no one else's.

I agree that Elvis should have helped 'Elvis' unfortunately Elvis was in denial about his addictions and about whom was in control, the drugs or Elvis! I think in the final analysis Elvis was not in control any longer and those around him could see that but did not force the issue beyond "Look Elvis this stuff is bad for you" it would of took something on the scale of "Elvis What Happend" to create the level of realisation Elvis needed.

JJ

[diamond]

All I know is ...a very well known music legend has helped two of our modern day pop stars get off drugs. In fact if I am not mistaken one of them was virtually kidnapped and put into rehab by that same person. As for Elvis having to want to get off drugs himself before he could be helped......rubbish......he COULDNT help himself therefore someone should of stepped in........the hangers on should of admitted him to hospital to get straight, maybe that way we wouldnt have to listen to them bragging about what they did and didnt do for him. In my opinion they closed their eyes to the fact he mishandled his prescription drug intake and should hang their heads in shame and not go around their daily business classing themselves as ''friends'' of Elvis when in fact they were his worst enemy

[0349054]

All I know is ...a very well known music legend has helped two of our modern day pop stars get off drugs. In fact if I am not mistaken one of them was virtually kidnapped and put into rehab by that same person. As for Elvis having to want to get off drugs himself before he could be helped......rubbish......he COULDNT help himself therefore someone should of stepped in........the hangers on should of admitted him to hospital to get straight, maybe that way we wouldnt have to listen to them bragging about what they did and didnt do for him. In my opinion they closed their eyes to the fact he mishandled his prescription drug intake and should hang their heads in shame and not go around their daily business classing themselves as ''friends'' of Elvis when in fact they were his worst enemy

Okay....im not disagreeing, but they can't make him go to hospital.

Only Vernon could have had him kept in there against his will and don't forget this is Elvis Presley, he didn't do things he didn't want to.