Reply With QuoteI think he really did regret loosing his family. I also believe that they would have got back together some day, especially if he had of got some help.
Lisa
I dont know...i think he has never really cared for her but when i hear "PIECES OF MY LIFE"...i mean there is so much pain and regret in his voice...Do you think its real?or he just uses his incredible talent???
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I think he really did regret loosing his family. I also believe that they would have got back together some day, especially if he had of got some help.
Lisa
I believe that Priscilla was the only woman he truly loved in his lifetime.
After the seperation he recorded several songs concerning his love life and after watching Elvis By The Presleys it's obvious he cared a lot about Priscilla.
You can't put all the blame on her for seperating Elvis. He just wasn't one of the easiest guys to be around, unless you were a guy that is...
After seperating Priscilla (coincidence or not) you can see a definate change in Elvis' way of life.
It's hard to say maybe, but in the years following the seperation his health declined and besides the Aloha show, there were little highlights in his later career that could've pushed him in a diff'rent, better direction.
My believe is that he never really got over the fact that Priscilla had left him, but surely these are just my thoughts...
Sonny
Hmm but if she was the only women he really loved, why he didnt try to keep her? I have read that Elvis promised Priscilla several times that he will change...and he apparently did not. That is why i doubt he truly loved her.
Destination deals the cards we're just playing.
I definitely do not think that Priscilla was the only woman he ever loved. As we all know, Elvis loved his mother dearly!
And it's true that Priscilla was his wife, but there were other women as well. He also had an affectionate relationship with Linda Thompson who really nurtured him and cared for him the time they were together.
Of course, when there are two fighting, there are two at fault. Elvis had a lifestyle which was hard to adapt to, but there was also the issue of Priscilla not being quite receptive to Elvis' spiritual quest.
Oh please don't give me that story of Elvis barely having any highlights after the Aloha special.. As we all know, his voice kept on developing and a lot of Elvis' co-musicians (like Kathy Westmoreland) agree that Elvis' voice was pretty good just before his death.
It's true that Elvis had problems keeping his health in order, but it was also down to the pressure that was constantly upon him, the burden of being the King, so to speak.
Elvis' eating habits are easily explained by the hunger he had known as a child - people who have been in a situation like this may have to struggle their whole life through trying to keep healthy. As far as I know, it's a fact that Elvis' internal organs were having trouble even before his Las Vegas return in '69.
I don't think it was hard to be around Elvis a lot, it's just that a lot of people were trying to take advantage of him and he probably didn't know who to trust.
Let's not be too hard on Elvis, we all know it's very human to make mistakes and it certainly wasn't easy being Elvis Presley!
Elvis may have loved her but I believe he saw her for what she really was after the divorce he even told Larry Geller that she had used him to get herself a career. Since his death she has perpetuated the myth of being Elvis`s widow and the love of his life. I recently read an interview that she did in the seventies when he was with Linda Thompson and she was saying that she didn`t want to upset his current girlfriend but Elvis had been practically begging her to get back with him. Its such a *****y comment but very typical of her and the fact that she couldn`t except that Elvis could love another woman after her.
When Linda Thompson appeared on Larry King Live within weeks surprise surprise Priscilla was on the show and soon we were hearing that Elvis and her saw each other all the time after the divorce contrary to what Linda said about Priscilla not really being on the scene.
I think that meeting her when he was at his most vulnerable so soon after the death of his beloved mother and then many years later losing her may have triggered off something inside of Elvis that was connected to his mother we`ll never know.
Priscilla is the one who has said he wanted to be back with her and as we heard in Elvis By The Presleys "he couldn`t let go" according to her mother I wonder if she was told to say it and the same goes for Jerry Schilling. Elvis may of missed his daughter but that doesn`t mean he wanted Priscilla back and again according to Larry Geller Elvis spoke of gaining custody of Lisa and raising her with Ginger stating that he never told anyone about Priscilla screwing around.
She altered Graceland back to how it looked when she lived there she has put pictures of herself and Lisa in that house and even Ginger Alden has said that those pictures weren`t there.
One thing is for sure I don`t think he`d look at her twice today she looks more like the joker out of batman after all that surgery.
Hi--
I'm in the middle of reading "Child Bride" -- a biography about Priscilla. It is quite an eye-opener!
I started to getting interested in Elvis prior to the mini-series and Elvis by the Presleys. At the time I didn't know a lot about Elvis, but the tone of Elvis by the Presleys seemed "off." Since it was made by Priscilla and Lisa Marie, I expected the show to be a celebration of Elvis...but it wasn't--they focused a lot on the negative.
I'd hate to nitpick, but several instances of the show irked me, even then, like when Priscilla mentioned (more than once) that Elvis thought she was the perfect woman; when Priscilla's sister mentioned that Elvis had given her a ring as well, on his wedding day. The sister said that Elvis seemed nervous, and Priscilla immediately retorted with something to the lines of, "well, how do you think he felt when he gave it to me?!" very catty!
Then they went on to talk about Elvis' drug use, and why no one tried to intervene, and kept saying "he'd kill me!" if she tried to say something. Quite shrill, she is!
Anyway, if I were to guess, I would say that Elvis may have felt that he lost face--respect, whatever, over Priscilla, rather than losing the love of his life.
My 2 cents!
I think they both loved eachother dearly, which Elvis definitely must've loved Priscilla greatly if he kept in contact with her during their two year absence from eachother while she was still in Germany after he had finished with the army. Not to mention the girl was just 14 at the time they had met and Elvis refused to go all the way with her, claiming he was "waiting for the right time." So yes, I think Elvis truly cared for Priscilla and she did the same for Elvis.
However, I believe that after Elvis passed on that's when Priscilla started to collect on being the former Mrs. Presley and his only wife. But I believe that when the two of them first started out together, they were very much in love with eachother and it's a shame how it turned out in the end.
Some people tap their feet, some people snap their fingers, and some people sway back and forth. I just sorta do 'em all together, I guess.
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Hi Guys,
First of all I don't think Priscilla, or Lisa-Marie, were portraying any negative aspects within the recent TV Special "Elvis By The Presleys". I feel that the overall project - Book, DVD, TV Special & CD was a lot more positive than her account of her life, marriage and divorce with Elvis in her book "Elvis & Me".
Secondly, I do feel that Elvis regretted losing Priscilla purely for the fact that she was his first (and only) wife...the only Mother of his only Child (?) - the young female who he had nurtured and groomed into his own way of life and suddenly she was breaking free from all of that...
Elvis appeared to be seeking solace in other women who weren't as pure as what Priscilla had first been or could not immediately relate to his way of life - Priscilla for many years gave Elvis all of that. I suppose a close second would be Linda Thompson.
I think you've only got to look at Elvis' other choices like Sheila Ryan. I feel that the Judge & Jury are still out on her...you only have to listen to her in some of the interviews that she has given regarding her brief spell with EP...she appears to be quite bitter in some respects.
Anyway...just a few thoughts there...
Cheers,
NEA.
Last edited by NEA; 07-16-2005 at 07:46 PM.
I believe Elvis truly loved 3 women in his life: His Mother, Priscilla, and Lisa Marie. It has been said that when Priscilla left, that was the end of Elvis. Priscilla has said that her and Elvis remained very close after their divorce and even talked about "one day". Like Sonny said, Elvis was not the easiest guy to be around unless you were a guy.
According to the guys that were around him 24/7, his health and drug dependence became worse after the divorce. It hit him hard that he lost his daughter which he had an unconditional love for and was bitter at Priscilla. All in all, I don't think Elvis ever got over it. After all, he never picked up his copies of the divorce papers.
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If you read what Red had to say in there telephone conversation, E does say that he was roped into the marriage...although she is one of the people i blame for his down fall...Q. i did not see the doco that everyone is talking about 'Presley by the Presley's' what was it all about...(i do not have a tv...have not seen tv for 6 years, sorry)is it worth getting on DVD to veiw at a mates place?
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keeping his name
What i do not like is how they have all kept his name, what kind of people are they...
I guess Elvis felt hurt. He loved Priscilla very much (it seems to be, at least to me). Who doesn't feel sad when a relationship fails? I think that when a marriage ends it's yet worse. Elvis and Priscilla went together a long time and as he was really "sentimental", it may hurt him more.
Last edited by Wendy56; 08-04-2005 at 12:47 AM.
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Elvis...
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Wendy
That's what has always got me as well.. I understand Lisa not changing her name.. That's fine..
However Priscilla has remarried and has had another child... Why didn't she change her name to her husband's name.. Even though I think Elvis truely loved her... I think that in some form she is a money hungry lady...
Unless she truely loves him and will never love another man like she did Elvis... However if that's true then why did she remarry??
Lisa
I too had great difficulty in understanding why Priscilla has kept the 'Presley' name for so long. I'm afraid it all appears to tie-in with the business aspect of things where Elvis & Graceland & her own career were concerned.
She obviously feels that she is entitled to keep the Presley name even after divorce and Elvis' death...this also gives her the tag of 'Elvis' Widow'. I'm sure she also believes that this entitlement is justified due to the fact that it was her own idea to form EPE and open Graceland to the public...the name 'Presley' also stands greater ground when embarking on an acting/modelling career.
So, yes, she is a business woman and very much knows how to play the system and knows how to play the fans for every penny we've got. I don't like this so-called showbiz aspect of her because she totally drains it - I also don't agree with it.
Nevertheless, Elvis did love her very much and it's quite obvious he cared for her very much during their separation and after their divorce.
Finally, I've got to admit that Priscilla & Lisa have done a great job with the recent "Elvis By The Presleys" - for once, in this project, Priscilla does appear to come across as a lot more civilised and respectful towards Elvis' memory. In retrospect I would rather have Priscilla at the helm of a project like this than a family member like Donna Early...I shudder at the very thought!
Cheers,
NEA.
I STILL THINK : If she was the only women he really loved, why he didnt try to keep her? I have read that Elvis promised Priscilla several times that he will change...and he apparently did not. That is why i doubt he truly loved her otherwise he would do everything to be with her!!!
Destination deals the cards we're just playing.
Priscilla has recently stated that when choosing pictures for the book Elvis by The Presleys there were some pictures that were too personal to be shown to the public just yet and that she had to hold some back I thought yeah for the next book. That must be the reason why the book is rubbish and filled with pictures of televisions etc. She says her reason for doing the book, dvd and cd was because the new generation of fans who had discovered Elvis through A Little Less Conversation were asking questions and they didn`t have any information about Elvis so she felt she had to share what she knew with the younger generation. Excuse me no information theres more books, dvds, cds about Elvis then any other entertainer in the music industry.
What she really means is she wants to put her perspective across to the new generation while at the same time line her pockets once again. I`m afraid it doesn`t wash priscilla we know you from old.
I think Elvis really did love Priscilla before they got married, but as it is known there appeared to be some controversy surrounding the fact that Elvis was 'forced' into the marriage. This had possibly tarnished it somewhat for him but I do feel he was obviously overjoyed when Lisa-Marie was born. I think at this point he still had a caring love for Priscilla as the Mother of his daughter - but it certainly didn't stop him not refraining from the temptations of his showbiz life e.g. Susan Henning, Barbara Leigh.
Priscilla was also a guilty party as well in the infidelity stakes - it takes two to tango as the saying goes. And so, when you eventually put aside all these aspects before, during and after the separation leading to the divorce, you still get these untapped feelings of remorse...I feel at that point Elvis did regret losing Priscilla because he still did care about her - he had known her since 1959....a lot longer than any of his showbiz temptations. And, he probably maintained that caring love for her because she was the only link to him seeing his daughter.
I think it was very difficult for Elvis to change - he couldn't do...I think he loved having the temptations too much and possibly more so than Priscilla, but I think that him knowing she was with Mike Stone had probably killed any desire he had to try and keep her. I think, eventually, his regret in losing her was quite prominently displayed.
NEA.
Last edited by NEA; 07-17-2005 at 04:22 PM.
Very good and true points
Now, I'm not the biggest Elvis expert (Oh, Captain) but it's obvious that Priscilla has been trying for the longest time to rewrite history to her liking. She's creating her own fairytale.
It's odd, though, that a woman of her alleged intelligence seems to be forgetting that Elvis has pretty much been living a life in a fishbowl as the most talked about, written about and most photographed person on the planet. It's like when someone like Michael Jackson or Cher denies they've had multiple plastic surgeries: the world has been a witness to much they have been doing during their lives and people therefore remember.
In Priscilla's case, the world - at least that part of the world that has been paying attention - has witnessed several versions of her truth now, changed as it most accommodates her at the time she changes it.
In her version, Elvis was the one who persued her, Elvis was the one who couldn't live without her, Elvis was the one who wanted to get back together etc. etc. etc.
Fact is that teenager Pris went on a hungerstrike after Elvis had returned to the US, that SHE bombarded him with letters begging him to let her come over (Elvis was busy enough entertaining Anita Wood in Memphis and tons of starlets and co-stars in Hollywood, remember?), and after her visit with him I guess she'd made up her mind that one way or another, she was going to be with him.
Did Elvis love her? Sure, but there are different kinds of love, as we all know. I think he may at first have been struck by her physical beauty, and he was still in mourning for his mother, living in a different country, not doing his regular job, which made him more vulnerable when he confided in her. That may have caused him to say certain things that may not have had as much meaning to him, but could be perceived as quite serious stuff by an awestruck teenager......
Did he invite her over? Yep, he sure did. He may have thought it would be a one time thing, pleasing that pretty fan of his from Germany. He may have thought of her as another pretty girl to have a fun time with. Did he make promises to her about marriage and spending the rest of his life with her? Probably, it is documented as such not just by Pris but by others, too.
Did he intend to keep them, or at least when he made those promises, realize the weight a young girl would read in them? Who knows....
Fact is that more than enough folks around Elvis claim that he was more or less tricked into marrying her, into keeping his "promises".....
Everybody knows Elvis had a hard time being faithful to his women, and most of his women knew and accepted this. When you think about it, Priscilla was one of the first "other women", since at the time she entered Elvis' life, his girlfriend was Anita Wood, and he also dated several Frauleins in Germany - more than once.
He continued this bachelor lifestyle throughout his relation and later marriage to Pris. She knew it beforehand, yet she insisted on becoming Mrs. Presley. Why? Others had dated him, and had left him when they found out he couldn't just be loyal to one woman at a time..... Ulterior motives perhaps?
Anyway, the marriage went downhill, he cheated her, she cheated him, they separated and divorced. She gave interviews right after her divorce in which she did NOT mention that she and Elvis "saw each other all the time" but only complained about him being possessive and that now she could finally become "her own woman and prove that she was her own person with her own talents". To enforce that, she insisted on going back to her maiden name Priscilla Beaulieu, and tried - amongst other things - to make a name for herself as a fashion designer.
Then Elvis dies, and who does little Lisa Marie call? Not mommy, but Linda Thompson......
Priscilla Beaulieu becomes Priscilla Beaulieu-Presley again. Vernon dies, leaving Pris in charge of Lisa's meager inheritance.
Did she do good for Elvis' legacy? Well, the upkeep of Graceland cost much more than she was making as a wannabe actress, so opening it to the public was a gamble, but in reality probably the only way to try and get some revenue from it. It worked. I think that's when Priscilla's pupils from then on were slowly replaced by dollar signs, as soon as she realized how loyal Elvis' fanbase was and how prepared they were to plunk down hard earned cash for even the most trivial souvenirs relating to Elvis.
Priscilla Beaulieu-Presley became Priscilla Presley again and with the repolishing of the real Elvis story, the real Priscilla role in it got repolished as well. Re-written is a better term.
Did Elvis love her? Yep, I think first as a pretty, young fan. Later as a pretty young girlfriend he could mold to his liking, the pretty wife who gave him his only child, and the lovely ornament to show off on his arm.
Did he resent her? Sure, when she didn't or couldn't understand his spiritual quest, when she began to mature and develop a mind and will of her own and later of course when she cheated on him with a guy HE introduced to her, and when she left and took his child with her.....
Was she the only woman he ever loved?Hardly......
Did he regret losing her? Yep, but not necessarily because he loved her so much, but - in his mind - because he lost face due to her cheating on him with a "lesser" man. She humiliated him, in his opinion, in public. Everybody knew she had a relationship with the guy, except him. It probably cut as deep into his ego - if not deeper - as in his heart.
Sorry for the long, rambling post. Pris (and brainwashed Lisa for that matter) bring out the worst in me, hehehe
Last edited by Cherokee; 07-17-2005 at 03:44 PM.
Hi Cherokee,
I think a lot of your points are very relevant - there is no escaping them in trying to sum up the Presley - Beaulieu relationship:
They met, They loved, They married, They became parents, They loved others, They separated, They divorced, They remained friends.
The other side of the coin:
He regretted, she didn't, he died, she saw, she took, she made.
After all these years now I think the scales are more than evenly balanced in Priscilla's favour.
Sad...and True.
NEA.
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