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    Parker promoted Elvis-but had no respect for his creative talent nor need to be around good talented creative people.
    Parker made Elvis an enigma-but isolated him, kept him......contributed to the creative boredom that gave Elvis too much time on his hands to find less creative productive ways to fight that boredom and stagnation.
    Parker did his job-yes and the probate judge who looked over contracts all the way back to 1956 said Parkers negotiations were tainted with conflict of interest and many were tilted toward Parker making more than Elvis-he ordered the estate to sue Parker to negate the contract Parker signed with Vernon the day after Elvis died. Parker was during various time periods a paid "consultant" to MGM, Paramount, RCA etc.....all the while negotiating contracts with those places for Elvis....the RCA deals were flagrant in conflict of interest according to the probate judge who handled the will in 77.
    The fact is Parker had trouble with every artist he handled-Eddy Arnold fired him because he felt the Colonel was less than honest and not listening to Arnold.......Tommy Sands mother fired Parker because she felt Parker was too controlling in every aspect of Sands life and too sneaky-Sands was not of legal age and Parker stayed fired........Country legend Hank Snow was in business with Parker and hated Parkers guts because the Elvis deal was suppose to be a part of their business-nothing in writing-and Parker did not honor their private conversations and deals....Snow never had a kind word for Parker after 1956.

    The fact is Parkers own name for himself-was the "Snowman" he loved the fact that he could manipulate/control people without them even seeing it.....that speaks volumes about him IMO
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    Elvis should have fired Parker around 1964 or disagreed a lot more with him.

    It is rare in showbusiness for actors, singers or comedian's to stay with one agent throughout their careers.

    If you read the Hollywood trade papers it is constantly being reported that some actor has just fired his agent and is changing representation.

    Often times the agent is doing a decent job but the actors or singers still fire them and get someone else.

    For the Colonel Parker/Elvis partnership 8-9 years was enough.

    If Elvis hadn't of died Colonel Parker probably would have still managed him for 2 or 3 more years.

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    Parker was a backstabbing lying conniving conman and thief who pretty much had Elvis from the start. He knew that if Elvis ever tried to leave him that he would take (Elvis) down with him. Elvis tried to part ways with the Colonel on a few occasions but the Colonel was always two steps ahead of him with his own set of lawyers and accountants. Elvis tried to get out in 1973 following a concert in Las Vegas. Even told the Colonel "YOU'RE FIRED!" in front of witnesses. Parker then told his wife to type up his resignation but had no intentions to go that quietly. He then pointed out all the financial expenses that Elvis would owe him and it was way too much for Elvis to pay. He would have gone bankrupt trying to meet the Colonel's demands.

    There's so much dirt on Parker it covers him from head to toe, and I am not referring to his burial place either. I'm talking about his secret under-the-table dealings.
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    I think the Colonel had something to do with Elvis being drafted. Timing was strange. Elvis was at the height of his career and also being investigated by the FBI. Parker probably saw that as a threat to them discovering that Parker was an illegal alien and would be deported. So he found a way to get the FBI's attention off of Elvis, by getting him drafted into the US Army. That way, FBI doesn't look any further into Elvis nor his business manager, Colonel Tom Parker.
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    Elvis was not unlike many young men and the draft-he got his notice that he may be called up and then he was.
    It was almost second nature after WW2 that you would most likely have to do a 2 year stint in the Army...most actors, singers etc were given the option of going into a special forces unit and then being used to entertain troops, generals, promote the service-Elvis did not take that route.
    I would doubt Parker could get Elvis drafted, but also the less Elvis made during that 2 year period the less Parker made and Parker was all about the money.
    Parker did not want to kill the golden goose and Elvis going into the service could have killed his momentum and career-so I doubt Parker would have taken that chance just a little over 2 years into their highly profitable situation.
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    Here is much more info in detail about the probate judge and his inquiry into Parkers deals for Elvis:
    Shortly after the death of Vernon Presley 1979, Probate Judge Joseph Evans ordered an investigation into the relationship between the Presley estate and Elvis's longtime manager, Colonel Parker. On August 14, 1981, following the completion of Presley's court-appointed guardian ad litem, the Probate Court of Shelby Country, Tennessee, issued an order demanding the cessation of all payments to Col. Parker. The judge further directed the Presley estate to bring a suit against Col. Parker for improper activities related to his managerial service for both Elvis and his estate. RCA Records was to be named in the suit as Col. Parker's accomplice.
    Charges were amongst other things:

    1. - Creating corporate vehicles which enabled Parker to acquire and profit from
    properties to which Parker was not entitled and capture income in excess of
    Parker's purported contractual entitlement in the area of music publishing and
    the merchandising of Elvis' name and likeness.

    2. - Causing Presley, without the benefit of independent counsel or business advise,
    to enter into the contracts referred above, which contracts upon information
    obtained were drafted and prepared by Parker, rendering Parker's interest in
    such contracts presumptively invalid under Tennessee law.

    3. - Causing Presley to enter into disadvantageous contracts with third parties in
    order to accommodate Parker's personal financial requirements.

    4. - Misusing his position as Elvis' and later the estate's, personal manager and
    fiduciary by requiring third parties interested in commerially exploiting Presley
    to compensate Parker personally, which compensation was accepted and utilized
    by Parker for his own personal financial gain and profit.

    5. - Limiting Elvis's concert appearances to the territory of the continental US not-
    withstanding the enormous demand for and financial gain to be from such
    appearances worldwide, which limitation was the result of Parker's not having
    secured a passport when he entered the US and his fear that, once abroad, he
    would not be permitted reentry into this country.

    6. - Failing to incorporate into recording contracts negotiated on Elvis' behalf any
    legal protection which would enable Elvis' accounting representatives to audit
    financial books and records for the purpose of verifying the accuracy of royalty
    statements and payments rendered to him to Elvis' damage and detriment.

    7. - Failing to provide Elvis with any tax planning to Elvis' damage and detriment......
    http://www.theelvisforum.com/viewtop...=0&&view=print
    The link has copies of contracts that the Judge found disturbing and examples of conflict of interest and Parkers side deals that gave him more than Elvis.

    The 73 deal was especially bothersome to the judge:
    After this deal Parker negotiated a new, 7-year-contract for Elvis with RCA. In additional Parker made 6 separate contracts with RCA, dated March 3, 1973. Four of this contracts would contain dubious payments for Parker. The new contract between Elvis and RCA said that following royalties paid to Elvis:
    a single 10 cent, an album 50 cents and a double-album 1 dollar
    .............. Elvis royalties was half of the royalties that was paid for example to the
    Rolling Stones, the Beatles or Elton John.
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    Heres a link to a newspaper article from 1982 concerning the suing of Parker by the estate:
    http://www.nytimes.com/1982/11/17/us...-payments.html
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    Brian according to this 1980 People magazine article you are correct that Priscilla (among others involved) was asking the Probate Judge to okay a deal with Parker after Vernon died-but the lawyer appointed by the court to protect the estate Mr. Tual in investigating the deal found huge problems with the deal and then turned his findings over to Judge Evans:
    http://www.people.com/people/archive...077998,00.html

    ....... Attorney Tual, appointed by the court to protect the interests of Presley's sole beneficiary, his 12-year-old daughter Lisa Marie, then began an investigation of the deal and concluded that Parker's cut was indefensible. "A 50 percent fee was exorbitant," the report states. "It raises the question of whether Parker has been guilty of self-dealing, of a breach of the fiduciary relationship owed to Elvis." (Most showbiz managers today earn between 10 and 25 percent.) In Tual's view, Colonel Parker—whose previous clients included Hank Snow and Eddy Arnold—was a shortsighted negotiator for Elvis and a most determined advocate for himself. As a case in point, the report cites the seven-year contract Parker negotiated with RCA Records for Elvis in 1973. It called for a flat-rate royalty of 50 cents per record sold, which meant that, as record prices rose, Elvis' royalty percentage would fall. Tual also maintains that the price Parker negotiated with RCA for Elvis' master recordings ($5.4 million) was a fraction of their worth. Parker's company, All Star Shows, split the proceeds of both deals with Presley 50-50, but when it came to merchandising Presleyana, the star got an even smaller cut. Parker held 40 percent of the stock in Boxcar Enterprises, the holding company for merchandising rights; Elvis owned 15 percent. Before August 16, 1977 Parker's share in Boxcar increased to 56 percent, with 22 percent going to the estate. Notes Tual's report: "It has not been explained why, since Elvis was the star and totally responsible for the merchandising rights, he had such an incredibly small percentage of Boxcar." The document does, however, suggest one reason: "Elvis was naive, shy and unassertive. Parker was aggressive, shrewd and tough. His strong personality dominated Elvis, his father and all others in Elvis' entourage." .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivaelvis View Post
    ... I think the Colonel had something to do with Elvis being drafted ...
    If that was so it was a good idea. Rock'n'Roll was dying at the end of the 50s. Elvis got time and comes back as a entertainer and all American boy.

    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    ... "Parker was aggressive, shrewd and tough. His strong personality dominated Elvis, his father and all others in Elvis' entourage" ...
    Maybe he had go to be a politician. When he was so dominant then he has a big career there.

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    It is widely known what she wants. Elvis should marry, work as a electrician and have babies. Is that what you want?

    Elvis loved money too. That is no reason to dislike him. The movies make money and Elvis did not have to undersign the contract. He was no child franny. Do you think that? The problem with the tours have we make to a subject in another thread.
    Elvis loved money, I love money and most people love money! I didn't say I dislike the Colonel because he loves money...I dislike him because he was greedy and a con man! He didn't care that Elvis was locked in a movie contract (I think for 10 years) with the movies being the same over and over again Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy then gets girl at the end. It wasn't very creative or original and not showcasing Elvis' talents as was seen in his earlier movies. Elvis wasn't a child, but he put a lot of trust in the Colonel and when he realized what he was, he was in too deep with financial burdens and stress.

    Okay, start a new thread about the problem with the tours

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    ... He didn't care that Elvis was locked in a movie contract ...
    I think he does care. But the movies are a easy way to make money and sell soundtracks. As the movies make little money he put him to Vegas. And then Elvis was not lost in movies but he was lost in concerts. Only Elvis knows why he did the same fault again. That's so sad.

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    Re: Colonel Parker Managed Elvis’ Career, but Was He a Killer on the Lam?

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    Brian according to this 1980 People magazine article you are correct that Priscilla (among others involved) was asking the Probate Judge to okay a deal with Parker after Vernon died-but the lawyer appointed by the court to protect the estate Mr. Tual in investigating the deal found huge problems with the deal and then turned his findings over to Judge Evans:
    http://www.people.com/people/archive...077998,00.html

    ....... Attorney Tual, appointed by the court to protect the interests of Presley's sole beneficiary, his 12-year-old daughter Lisa Marie, then began an investigation of the deal and concluded that Parker's cut was indefensible. "A 50 percent fee was exorbitant," the report states. "It raises the question of whether Parker has been guilty of self-dealing, of a breach of the fiduciary relationship owed to Elvis." (Most showbiz managers today earn between 10 and 25 percent.) In Tual's view, Colonel Parker—whose previous clients included Hank Snow and Eddy Arnold—was a shortsighted negotiator for Elvis and a most determined advocate for himself. As a case in point, the report cites the seven-year contract Parker negotiated with RCA Records for Elvis in 1973. It called for a flat-rate royalty of 50 cents per record sold, which meant that, as record prices rose, Elvis' royalty percentage would fall. Tual also maintains that the price Parker negotiated with RCA for Elvis' master recordings ($5.4 million) was a fraction of their worth. Parker's company, All Star Shows, split the proceeds of both deals with Presley 50-50, but when it came to merchandising Presleyana, the star got an even smaller cut. Parker held 40 percent of the stock in Boxcar Enterprises, the holding company for merchandising rights; Elvis owned 15 percent. Before August 16, 1977 Parker's share in Boxcar increased to 56 percent, with 22 percent going to the estate. Notes Tual's report: "It has not been explained why, since Elvis was the star and totally responsible for the merchandising rights, he had such an incredibly small percentage of Boxcar." The document does, however, suggest one reason: "Elvis was naive, shy and unassertive. Parker was aggressive, shrewd and tough. His strong personality dominated Elvis, his father and all others in Elvis' entourage." .....
    Thanks for this and your other posts Ken, very interesting, much of it I was completely unaware of. I'm sure it was you on another thread, who said the probate judge was an unsung hero for instigating an investigation into Parker's contracts.

    Imagine if that hadn't happened. Unfortunately Elvis is the poster boy for bad management.

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    The strange thing is that after this information saw the light a few people of Elvis' entourage still had a high opinion on Parker, like Joe Esposito and Priscilla. Priscilla attended his birthdays and even spoke at his funeral and Esposito still thinks he really loved Elvis. The Elvis' world is a strange one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    The strange thing is that after this information saw the light a few people of Elvis' entourage still had a high opinion on Parker, like Joe Esposito and Priscilla. Priscilla attended his birthdays and even spoke at his funeral and Esposito still thinks he really loved Elvis. The Elvis' world is a strange one!
    Well I think in his own way Parker did have an affection for Elvis...but he loved himself more and thats the difference.
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    Re: Colonel Parker Managed Elvis’ Career, but Was He a Killer on the Lam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    The strange thing is that after this information saw the light a few people of Elvis' entourage still had a high opinion on Parker, like Joe Esposito and Priscilla. Priscilla attended his birthdays and even spoke at his funeral and Esposito still thinks he really loved Elvis. The Elvis' world is a strange one!
    It is well known that Joe Esposito was parker's spy in the Elvis camp and reported everything back to the col. How could he call himself Elvis friend and talk about how much he loved him when he found out about the one sided deals in records , merchandising , Vegas , touring and Hollywood and still defend Parker. The Col was a con artist of the highest order and worked Elvis to death. He didnt give a **** about Elvis health or long term career just the fast buck. He trapped him in Vegas on a rediculous contract to cover his gambling debts for gods sake. Joe Esposito is the only one of the Memphis Mafia who has a good word to say about him. Probably to justify his conscience for all the times he went behind Elvis back to the Col telling him Elvis private business and ensuring the Col wishes were met.

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    Joe Esposito is the only one of the Memphis Mafia who has a good word to say about him. Probably to justify his conscience for all the times he went behind Elvis back to the Col telling him Elvis private business and ensuring the Col wishes were met.
    Sonny West, Jerry Schilling and Charlie Hodge also have said nice things about the Colonel.

    I've noticed that if they liked the Colonel nobody will say anything really bad about him.

    If you didn't know the Colonel, disliked, or were lukewarm towards him then it is common for people to be more critical of him.

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    The Colonel was a character....colorful flamboyant and smart...but it does not make up for his manipulations, cons, and the inexcusable negotiated contracts that had him playing both sides of the fence.
    He had no real understanding of creative peoples needs or their searches for inspiration-everything was bottomline dollars and cents and how big was his cut.
    He grabbed Elvis early and used his SNOWMAN abilities to keep him with the "Colonels program" ........Elvis stagnated and then got some inspiration from the 68 special (despite the common knowledge that Parker fought Elvis and Binder at every turn on every point that was not in "Colonels program guide")
    Elvis returns to live performances and is on fire...for a time.......but once again Parker signs a long term deal with the International on the night of Elvis' first performance (WRONGLY feeling he must strike while the irons hot) on a table cloth with International President Alex Shoofey.
    Shoofey actually told Parker to not be hasty but Parker wanted the deal quick-Shoofey felt that Parker sold Elvis way to cheaply.
    Then the tours that at first inspired Elvis-but after 71 the same routes were booked, the same venues over and over.....Elvis once again stagnated.
    After 73 Elvis was just creatively lost and looking for meaning to life at every turn...Parker was just looking for paydays.
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    [QUOTE=Brian;423655]Sonny West, Jerry Schilling and Charlie Hodge also have said nice things about the Colonel.

    Jerry Schilling and Sonny West have repeatedly criticised the col and his handling of Elvis career. His locking him in bad movies , Vegas and touring the same cities year after year with no challenge which sucked the life and drive out of him.

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    Re: Colonel Parker Managed Elvis’ Career, but Was He a Killer on the Lam?

    Quote Originally Posted by franny View Post
    Elvis loved money, I love money and most people love money! I didn't say I dislike the Colonel because he loves money...I dislike him because he was greedy and a con man! He didn't care that Elvis was locked in a movie contract (I think for 10 years) with the movies being the same over and over again Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy then gets girl at the end. It wasn't very creative or original and not showcasing Elvis' talents as was seen in his earlier movies. Elvis wasn't a child, but he put a lot of trust in the Colonel and when he realized what he was, he was in too deep with financial burdens and stress.

    Okay, start a new thread about the problem with the tours

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    It's not surprising Elvis loved money having had little or none growing up and seeing how hard things were on his parents: and not surprising that he wanted to make life better for them and himself and probably why he was so generous to other people knowing what it was like to have to do without so much.

    As so the Colonel, he didn't get that nickname "Snowman" from the heavens...he earned it. Whether he loved Elvis at all is a question. He may have gotten a kick now and then at Elvis' silly personality, but I don't think he had a "deep" love for Elvis or he would have made sure that he made the right decisions for his career and happiness which he did not. He was very self-centered and what he wanted was what he went after regardless how much it hurt his star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Sonny West, Jerry Schilling and Charlie Hodge also have said nice things about the Colonel.

    Jerry Schilling and Sonny West have repeatedly criticised the col and his handling of Elvis career. His locking him in bad movies , Vegas and touring the same cities year after year with no challenge which sucked the life and drive out of him.
    Sonny West hasn't you are probably thinking of Red West.

    Jerry Schilling has talked about the things he disagreed with the Colonel about but he doesn't put the him down while doing it.

    He has also spoken positively of the Colonel and he liked him personally.

    What the Memphis Mafia have to say about Colonel Parker whether postive or negative doesn't matter because their opinions really don't mean squat.

    Several of the Memphis mafia hated Colonel Parker as you've noted but it didn't change anything.

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