Interesting new book out today

[vivaelvis]

Elvis was always hanging out with the guys on the police department, giving them gifts and his friendship. I believe if they thought he was murdered they would have done something.

That doesn't mean anything. Of course they hung with him, for free gifts and popularity. After all, there was not another more famous human of his time or any time than Elvis Presley. Hanging out and being "friends" with Elvis didn't stop Red, Sonny and others from stabbing him in the back either.

[poor boy]

Oh please give me a break . Anybody who buys or reads this rubbish really has too much time on their hands and needs to get a life or at the very least a brain .

[vivaelvis]

Oh please give me a break . Anybody who buys or reads this rubbish really has too much time on their hands and needs to get a life or at the very least a brain .

The same can be said about the book Revelations Of The Memphis Mafia or Elvis What Happened.

[rocknroll]

[QUOTE=vivaelvis;413900]I used to buy that Elvis faked his death. [QUOTE]

All I needed to hear. That explains a lot.

[vivaelvis]

[QUOTE=rocknroll;413922][QUOTE=vivaelvis;413900]I used to buy that Elvis faked his death.

All I needed to hear. That explains a lot.

What does it explain? That I was naive like most? Because back in 1988, when the song Spelling On The Stone came out and that woman had the fake audio tape that sounded like Elvis talking, half of America believed it was him.

[KPM]

Sounds like someone (EPE) didn't want the truth to be told.

Or perhaps they felt it was not the place to try and drum up business for a book that is nothing but pure speculation and surmising based upon and they do not want "anyone" trying to hawk items on the grounds-most businesses are like that.
Unauthorized solicitation is prohibited everywhere.
Since the premise of this book is so speculative it should be taken with a a whole salt shaker of salt-not just a grain. Its nothing new its a collection of odd occurances that are bound together to form a theory and sell a book.

[KPM]

[QUOTE=vivaelvis;413923][QUOTE=rocknroll;413922]

I used to buy that Elvis faked his death.

What does it explain? That I was naive like most? Because back in 1988, when the song Spelling On The Stone came out and that woman had the fake audio tape that sounded like Elvis talking, half of America believed it was him.

I didn't sound like him, it was a theory that had more holes than Swiss Cheese.

[readyseve]

You tell em Galway Boy...up you boyo!! Note Galway colours for you!!

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

My point is that so many fans are acceptable with the so called "truth" that they will believe whatever the Mafia or Dr Nick or whoever, says. But won't listen to the actual people who attended Elvis' autopsy that have said that something wasn't right as was pointed out on that 20/20 piece way back in 1979. Vasco Smith went to his grave claiming that a heart attack did not kill Elvis Presley. He's the man who signed the death certificate for both Elvis and Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

I used to buy that Elvis faked his death. I now know that he did not and is indeed gone from this world. But what I have never believed, knowing that Nick was found guilty for improper practice on other patients, is that Elvis died of heart disease when his heart showed no signs of it.

People are misquoted, misrepresented and taken out of context, if it was truly believed that Elvis was killed, there would have been an investigation period! There are multiple quotes from any famous autopsy all of which can be taken with a pinch of salt. The famous will always have suspicion surrounding their death even if it is clear their health was very poor on the run up to their death.

Coroners are human beings and are not above wanting to court publicity and say things that will muddy the waters to get attention. Vasco Smith could be correct and a heart attack might not have been the overall cause, but the alternative would almost certainly be polypharmacy which at the time wasn't the preferred cause for obvious reasons...

The biggest issue I have is why the Memphis police department NEVER once considered doing an investigation on Nick or the death itself. It's as if they either didn't care that he had died or were in on a conspiracy, a la Dr King's death.

It would be obvious to the Memphis police that Elvis was a prescribed drug user, they would have seen as the rest of the world did a sad decline in health and personality. Whilst I don't condone assumption on the polices part, they would almost certainly have listened to the coroner's report which exclaimed that Elvis died of heart attack! So why would they feel the need to investigate natural causes? Dr Nick was later investigated when they saw what he had prescribed for Elvis and was struck off. There is no smoking gun here, it is obvious even to a blind man that Elvis' self destructive behaviour were a major contributing factor to his death.

That doesn't mean anything. Of course they hung with him, for free gifts and popularity. After all, there was not another more famous human of his time or any time than Elvis Presley. Hanging out and being "friends" with Elvis didn't stop Red, Sonny and others from stabbing him in the back either.

When I read your posts, I get the feeling that Elvis is ALWAYS the innocent party and everyone else without exception is out to get Elvis. The Red & Sonny thing has been discussed at length ad infinitum, these guys whilst initially breaking Elvis' trust were to all intense and purposes reacting to a situation Elvis himself pushed them too. Steve Dunleavy did a hatchet job on that book as we all know. Red & Sonny are for the most part great guys.

Elvis was a great guy, great performer and all round people person, he was weak when it came to prescribed meds and this lead to the breakup of many relationships in his life and ultimately it took his life. Lets not blame everyone else. Its a simple case of cause and effect.

[poor boy]

You tell em Galway Boy...up you boyo!! Note Galway colours for you!!

Thanks for the colours and the thought ,

[KPM]

I can not believe "anyone would believe" that one of the most publicised and press covered deaths in the world-that had the interest of everyone from Jimmy Carter to people in China-could somehow have been a murder that "no one of any consequence really made the case-so lock tight convincing" .......that the Feds, State or local police did not go into overdrive to investigate.
The Memphis police had a respect and love for Elvis-if they had any inkling, any real evidence of murder-they would have attacked the case with the grip of a bulldog and never let up-this is fantasy that is supposition, upon circumstance, upon heresay and rumor.

[KPM]

People are misquoted, misrepresented and taken out of context, if it was truly believed that Elvis was killed, there would have been an investigation period! There are multiple quotes from any famous autopsy all of which can be taken with a pinch of salt. The famous will always have suspicion surrounding their death even if it is clear their health was very poor on the run up to their death.

Coroners are human beings and are not above wanting to court publicity and say things that will muddy the waters to get attention. Vasco Smith could be correct and a heart attack might not have been the overall cause, but the alternative would almost certainly be polypharmacy which at the time wasn't the preferred cause for obvious reasons...



It would be obvious to the Memphis police that Elvis was a prescribed drug user, they would have seen as the rest of the world did a sad decline in health and personality. Whilst I don't condone assumption on the polices part, they would almost certainly have listened to the coroner's report which exclaimed that Elvis died of heart attack! So why would they feel the need to investigate natural causes? Dr Nick was later investigated when they saw what he had prescribed for Elvis and was struck off. There is no smoking gun here, it is obvious even to a blind man that Elvis' self destructive behaviour were a major contributing factor to his death.



When I read your posts, I get the feeling that Elvis is ALWAYS the innocent party and everyone else without exception is out to get Elvis. The Red & Sonny thing has been discussed at length ad infinitum, these guys whilst initially breaking Elvis' trust were to all intense and purposes reacting to a situation Elvis himself pushed them too. Steve Dunleavy did a hatchet job on that book as we all know. Red & Sonny are for the most part great guys.

Elvis was a great guy, great performer and all round people person, he was weak when it came to prescribed meds and this lead to the breakup of many relationships in his life and ultimately it took his life. Lets not blame everyone else. Its a simple case of cause and effect.

I agree with 99% of your post
Even thought I do not believe Elvis died of the meds that night-it is absolutely certain they contributed to his health decline that led to his premature death. (As was showed in the review of all autopsy reports and lab work in 1994)
Had he got help in the 50s for his horrible sleep disorder-instead of just going straight to sleeping pills, then uppers to help get him awake...the cycle of "a pill for every ill" might not have ever started.
But now the claims of murder, suicide, faked death, witness protection plans etc........are just ridiculous...with one motive, one purpose and we all know what that purpose is.