Elvis death cover-up....very disturbing

[Tommy]

A GREAT MAN AND HIS MUSIC LIVES ON IN OUR HEARTS, I SAY RIP AND AND LET THIS BE ONLY FOR HIS LOVING MEMORY.

ELVIS LIVES IN EACH OF OUR HEARTS FOREVER.

[Turbo]

I saw this
When it was on in 79 I watched it, its so sad that so much noise can be made of a conspiratorial nature about Elvis, the Kennedys, Monroe, Dean, etc.......yet not one ounce of real "court worthy proof" can ever be produced in order to prove the claims "legally"
If Elvis was murdered, bring the case to court prove it and prove it conclusively, if he is in a witness protection program (another myth) prove it not- with circumstantial heresay evidence, but with real proof that stands up. These "theories" have almost always been related to projects that have made someone a bundle of money for books, videos, specials, movies etc.....they make great profit-but are not PROOF!

The proof that does stand up in court.....is always questioned as to authenticity or the time old "they were paid off" is given as reasoning for facts that do not meet the conspiratorial theorys.
35 years and the same old stuff is brought up....enough is enough.

Thanks Tommy, I won't get upset about it anymore, it was a long time ago. My thoughts for me personally, are, "one should never forget" when it comes to wrong doings, so that it makes it difficult for occurances such as these to occur as easily, again. So, although painful, I watched this, the same when it comes to war, I will watch and listen to what is going on, as it is important that one doesn't forget, or there will be denials, as we all know, as happened with WW11.

I just want to say, because it is important for the younger generation to know how things work:

The "Old Boys Club" comes into play. Dr Nick, while moving his eyes sideways, said that in his court proceedings, it was found that there were only four drugs he prescribed, the rest were from other doctors.

You can see how it works, the "Old Boys Club" has of course and is of course, historically, around in all different forms and will always protect those with the connections and money through the lawyers, with the immediate coverups that are "necessary", when things happen.

[Cliff]

I love Elvis like you show. Yes. Mary is right, it is not nice to watch such a poor Elvis.
Unfortunately, he just looked in the last months of life. Why? Thanks to us!
Because of pressure from us, the fans!

Let us respect so, and this image!

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

[Turbo]

It is an emotional time, people implode because of grief still, after all these years.

It shows the love that Elvis gave out to us all, the selfless love, and how we miss him.

We should concentrate on helping others, perhaps donating to the whales or Hunger for Children, that would be best at this time, no more "imploding", but giving, giving is best for the emotions and will do some good!

[Jeanine]

http://www.elvispresleypedia.com/fin...977-17-aug.htm




Commercial Appeal August 17,1977 :


Elvis Presley, who appeared to be the embodiment of physical fitness during his strenuous performances on stage, had been hospitalized in Memphis at least six times since Oct. 16, 1960.

In recent years, there were persistent reports that Presley's illnesses were drug related. Medical sources were careful to say the illnesses could have been caused by one or more prescription drugs that the singer was taking.

There were also rumors that the singer had a liver disease, not related to drinking.

But the official diagnoses released by his physician, Baptist Hospital and Mid-South Hospital were that he suffered from fatigue, colon obstruction, eye problems and intestinal flu, and was treated.

However, medical information released by Baptist Hospital Tuesday night showed that Presley had been admitted there three times for hypertension or high blood pressure.

Baptist Hospital admissions and diagnostic records released Tuesday night were:

Oct. 16-17, 1960, fractured fifth finger on the right hand.

Oct. 15-Nov. 1, 1973, hypertension and headache.

Jan. 28-Feb. 14, 1975, hypertension and an impacted colon.

Aug. 21-Sept. 5, 1975, hypertension and an impacted colon.

April 1-6, 1977, gastroenteritis, a strained back and mild anemia.

In June, 1975, Presley underwent an "extensive eye examination" at Mid-South Hospital for two days. It was reported then that he had recurrent eye problems.

However, the diagnosis of Presley's ailments released Tuesday night do not correspond with those given out at the time of the hospitalization.

When Presley was hospitalized in October, 1973, it was reported he was recovering from recurrent pneumonia and pleurisy which had been plaguing him for about four months. Hypertension was listed as the primary illness in Tuesday night's release.

In January, 1975, Dr. George Nichopoulos, Presley's personal physician, said the singer was admitted for a "general medical workup." A hospital source at that time said Presley had a "liver problem" not related to alcohol. The source said then tests were being performed to find the nature of the ailment.

One of the effects of the liver ailment was swelling or puffiness of the face, the source said. Presley reportedly fought constantly middle-aged spread after his 40th birthday.

When Presley was released from the hospital two weeks later, Nichopoulos said the singer had been treated for an intestinal obstruction.

Hypertension and megacolon were last night listed as his illness for that two-week stay.

On August 21, 1975, he was admitted again to Baptist for what was described as "fatigue and tests."

Then on April 1 of this year, he was admitted for intestinal flu and fatigue.

During his three stays at Baptist Hospital, beginning January, 1975, he stayed in a two-room suite on the 18th floor that had aluminum foil covered windows to keep out the sunlight. He had become a night person who preferred sleeping in a darkened room during the daytime.

Security was always tight during his stays. Bodyguards watched his room and kept fans from entering the area.

The hospital was always flooded with calls from fans seeking information on the singer. He was also inundated with get-well greetings and flowers.

[mistymorning]

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

I agree with this post , we should understand Elvis as a human being with all of his faults and values .

[Turbo]

Thank you, Jeanine, very informative. Poor Elvis, such a shame that his giving nature ended up with people taking advantage of him. A wonderful, loving, human being, one in many billion.

It is so hard to help someone when they can't receive help because of their circumstances.

Linda did say that Elvis went to hospital to get away from it all. I wonder if he said that to not worry her.

[elvia7]

I also want to thank you, Jeanine.
This is exactly what many do not know. Every artist needs the audience.
He loves us, because he is loved and appreciated.
He will pay every price to please the fans.
I think (I'm not sure, because I'm not ELVIS) that just need to be loved, appreciated and in good condition was the cause of drug overdose.
Death GREATEST ARTIST and the MAN was a matter of time! Short time .
We needed him, he needed us ...

We will ALVAYS LOVE YOU ELVIS!

[Snake Eyes]

Elvis was let down by the doctors, his inner circle and largely by himself. They are all as guilty as each other in my opinion.

While I understand these particular threads upset many members on this board who wish to celebrate his incredible life and talent, it's just as important for newer fans to be able to discuss the good and the bad without just reading through the archives.

There are several members on this board who's opinions I enjoy reading and I hope as long as certain issues are treated with respect you will continue to say your piece, even if it's for the millionth time. I for one do not know everything about Elvis, so appreciate the facts and opinions given by you guys in the forums.

[elvia7]

Elvis was let down by the doctors, his inner circle and largely by himself. They are all as guilty as each other in my opinion.

While I understand these particular threads upset many members on this board who wish to celebrate his incredible life and talent, it's just as important for newer fans to be able to discuss the good and the bad without just reading through the archives.

There are several members on this board who's opinions I enjoy reading and I hope as long as certain issues are treated with respect you will continue to say your piece, even if it's for the millionth time. I for one do not know everything about Elvis, so appreciate the facts and opinions given by you guys in the forums.

I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

[cibetty]

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

I agree with you Cliff!! I also think it is silly to say we are responsible by putting pressure on him... Especially not those who weren't even born then... And you're right, nobody forced him to take those pills, he wanted to take them. I don't say the people around him were not responsible, Dr. Nick and the colonel and the others who just watched him as he destroyed himself and slowly led himself to the end. I think maybe some rest without any shows would have helped him. But he wanted to be on stage. And maybe he had a very big problem what will never know... And he didn't see any other way out than taking the pills. I think we'll never know the real facts, he took them away with himself.

[Diane]

I love Elvis like you show. Yes. Mary is right, it is not nice to watch such a poor Elvis.
Unfortunately, he just looked in the last months of life. Why? Thanks to us!
Because of pressure from us, the fans!

Let us respect so, and this image!

I totally agree, Elvis had huge pressures from all sides but slim or slightly heavy as he got in the end, he was still Elvis, unique, still very attractive and unsurpassed.

[Snake Eyes]

I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

Exactly, couldn't have said it better Evi, also the sketch in post #30 iis one of my favourite pics of Elvis, fabulously drawn

[Tommy]

I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

Very elegantly, gracefully said Evi, I agree.



I choose to remember ELVIS for all he stood for in HIS life, his music, HIS kind and giving heart to HIS fans, I do not want to remember the hard times, best to always remember the good times, which makes most of us happy to this very day. This ANNIVERSARY I will remember and honor ELVIS for is greatest, not what happend in his short life, HE gave us so much to be thankful for.

I thank you ELVIS, and God bless you.

[elvislina]

Thank you very, very much Anna.

Great man ELVIS lives in our hearts and minds........................I still say RIP.............God be with you ELVIS....................

you are so welcome Tommy

[J.P]

All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

well said Cliff! that is the real respect to see him as a human being and IMO that's how he wanted to be seen. he just made a few mistakes like we all do that's all but there still is the music.

[J.P]

I agree with you Cliff!! I also think it is silly to say we are responsible by putting pressure on him... Especially not those who weren't even born then... And you're right, nobody forced him to take those pills, he wanted to take them. I don't say the people around him were not responsible, Dr. Nick and the colonel and the others who just watched him as he destroyed himself and slowly led himself to the end. I think maybe some rest without any shows would have helped him. But he wanted to be on stage. And maybe he had a very big problem what will never know... And he didn't see any other way out than taking the pills. I think we'll never know the real facts, he took them away with himself.

i agree with this to. nobody else could and should be blamed.

[spanish eyes]

I love the human being that he was, so caring, so loving, so funny. I could always see the human being like just before he went on stage he was so nervous or when I heard him cuss lol. Elvis once said the image is one thing the human being another, its hard to live up to an image............ I would say Elvis just be you, you're so much more than an image.

[Tommy]

Amen, let's put the subject to rest, ELVIS was a great man and we must now respect and just love HIM. ELVIS ANNIVERSARY should bring us all together. Do this for HIM.

[elvia7]

I totally agree, Elvis had huge pressures from all sides but slim or slightly heavy as he got in the end, he was still Elvis, unique, still very attractive and unsurpassed.

Thank you Dee. Simply, no perfect people ..
ELVIS was in spite of defects THE BEST!!!