Wow! Is this the future of Elvis The Concert? (the 2pac hologram)

[vivaelvis]

Last night, dead rap legend Tupac Shakur came back to life through modern day technology as he literally performed a duet with Snoop Dog live on stage via hologram. You have to see it to believe it. I'm wondering, no, I'm betting that this is EPE's next big thing with the Elvis-The Concert show. At least, it should be.



http://www.nj.com/entertainment/inde...coachella.html

[debtdbruno]

amazing........you never know, it could be one way to 'bring him back'

[Jungleroom76]

As cool as that would be, turning all of the concert footage necessary into holograms for a full-length concert would certainly be a VERY expensive project I imagine...

Just imagine how much EPE would charge for tickets to THAT show!!!

I'm not saying that it couldn't happen, or that I wouldn't LOVE to see it happen...it just seems to me that it will be a pretty cost-prohibitive show to produce...

TCB!
Mike

[KPM]

As cool as that would be, turning all of the concert footage necessary into holograms for a full-length concert would certainly be a VERY expensive project I imagine...

Just imagine how much EPE would charge for tickets to THAT show!!!

I'm not saying that it couldn't happen, or that I wouldn't LOVE to see it happen...it just seems to me that it will be a pretty cost-prohibitive show to produce...

TCB!
Mike

It was pretty impressive, some parts slightly choppy looking like an old silent movie but impressive.
But I must agree with you Mike an entire concert would be very very expensive not too mention we do not know how long it took to make this hologram.
I recall a few years back a You Tube video of a 3D Elvis which lasted about 2 minutes and if I remember correctly it took the author of the project over 2 years to digitally construct this 2 minutes.
Luckily people are constantly working for quicker and better ways to do these things with computers-but still 2 minutes took 2 years to complete.

[King Of The Whole World]

Wow I wish Elvis would have recorded that song. Absolutely terrible.

This is the song they did a few years ago with Elvis on American Idol, it did take months for them to do this small part.

[KPM]

Here is the 3D Elvis from a few years ago-less than a minute long-took 2 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ-o0MVsguI

[King Of The Whole World]

That is cool way to show Elvis but I would rather see a live show with a hologram like the American Idol clip. It would be nice if they did that for a video game or like a movie.

[Diane]

I found the second one Ken posted a bit scary. It was like watching one of the Elvis dolls come a live.

I agree, I'd rather see a hologram of him.

[debtdbruno]

agree Diane, it has a bit of a weird look about it........

[vivaelvis]

Here is the 3D Elvis from a few years ago-less than a minute long-took 2 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ-o0MVsguI

I remember seeing that. If it really took the person who made that 3-D Elvis video a whole 2 years then he didn't know much about what he was doing. A professional with knowledge of 3D designing would have done it in weeks. But as for the Tupac hologram and the cost, I don't think it was all that expensive. Here's a link to an article mentioning and showing other hologram performances including Elvis and Celine from American Idol. http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/32877...-musicians.htm

[ThreeCornPatches]

Well maybe they couldnt afford to bring elvis back for a full lenghty concert, but they could do it for like 2 songs, Imagen elvis hologram coming up during sweet sweet spirit, and remains for how great thou art.

[Albert]

As cool as that would be, turning all of the concert footage necessary into holograms for a full-length concert would certainly be a VERY expensive project I imagine...

Just imagine how much EPE would charge for tickets to THAT show!!!

I'm not saying that it couldn't happen, or that I wouldn't LOVE to see it happen...it just seems to me that it will be a pretty cost-prohibitive show to produce...

TCB!
Mike

They didn't turn existing footage into a hologram, but motion captured another person and turned that with CGI (computers) into 2Pac. So it's a computer animation, just like Gollum from Lord Of The Rings. It obviously looked nice during that low-light show, but you shouldn't expect close-ups shown on big screens behind the hologram artist. That's because then you can easily see that it's not the real artist, but a computer version.

The idea that somebody is pretending to be Elvis, being motion captured, converted into a 3D model and then turned into a Elvis lookalike computer figure.

I have to admit that the technique to re-create real life looking computer animated humans has improved insanely over the years. But it still extremely difficult to put 'soul' into the computer generated eyes.

[KPM]

They didn't turn existing footage into a hologram, but motion captured another person and turned that with CGI (computers) into 2Pac. So it's a computer animation, just like Gollum from Lord Of The Rings. It obviously looked nice during that low-light show, but you shouldn't expect close-ups shown on big screens behind the hologram artist. That's because then you can easily see that it's not the real artist, but a computer version.

The idea that somebody is pretending to be Elvis, being motion captured, converted into a 3D model and then turned into a Elvis lookalike computer figure.I have to admit that the technique to re-create real life looking computer animated humans has improved insanely over the years. But it still extremely difficult to put 'soul' into the computer generated eyes.

Now that you have explained how it was done I agree with you totally, the idea of someone pretending to be Elvis in movement and walk, then having CGI add Elvis's face onto the body seems years away. (and I'm not sure of how much ELVIS you would get)
One of my complaints about so much computer generated images is that it seems to blend in action sequences, but any sequence in which close-ups of facial expressions are shown gives it away quickly, even quick glances of a face can tell you its CGI.
Soul is what makes us human-and you are correct that is lacking up till now in computer generated eyes.

[KPM]

I found the second one Ken posted a bit scary. It was like watching one of the Elvis dolls come a live.

I agree, I'd rather see a hologram of him.

I got the same feeling-its scary, neat to see it done-but it has a scary other world type look to it.

[mistymorning]

impressive !!!!

[elvia7]

I found the second one Ken posted a bit scary. It was like watching one of the Elvis dolls come a live.

I agree, I'd rather see a hologram of him.

Yes Diane!
Definitely, if I had seen only a hologram.
For now, perhaps we do not have any other choice.
In one such, such a great phenomenon that is Elvis, the soul is the most important.
The soul of the artist. His look. Personally I am scared this plastic 'Elvis'.

[elvia7]

They didn't turn existing footage into a hologram, but motion captured another person and turned that with CGI (computers) into 2Pac. So it's a computer animation, just like Gollum from Lord Of The Rings. It obviously looked nice during that low-light show, but you shouldn't expect close-ups shown on big screens behind the hologram artist. That's because then you can easily see that it's not the real artist, but a computer version.

The idea that somebody is pretending to be Elvis, being motion captured, converted into a 3D model and then turned into a Elvis lookalike computer figure.

I have to admit that the technique to re-create real life looking computer animated humans has improved insanely over the years. But it still extremely difficult to put 'soul' into the computer generated eyes.

I agree with you, Albert.The eyes (actually, what they should be seen, the soul) are far beyond the technical possibilities.
Comparison of Elvis for Gollum ... Hmm, is risky.Eyes Elvis we know and we love what we see in they .
Gollum is the essence with 'beautiful' sad eyes but he is strangers . However, these are artificial, cold eyes.
Elvis's eyes are like an open window to his soul!

[King Of The Whole World]

I just feel that some day there will be technology that will allow a whole show of Elvis to be a hologram. I could see watching the Aloha show as a hologram. To see Elvis walking and singing on stage with the band playing behind him would be the coolest thing. I think this type of hologram is just a few years away.

[vivaelvis]

I just feel that some day there will be technology that will allow a whole show of Elvis to be a hologram. I could see watching the Aloha show as a hologram. To see Elvis walking and singing on stage with the band playing behind him would be the coolest thing. I think this type of hologram is just a few years away.

How about a whole new show with a whole new setlist?

A Space Odyssey
(dressed in white 3-piece suit from 72 slimmed down like 69)
Big Boss Man
Mystery Train/Tiger Man
Burning Love
Never Been To Spain
Polk Salad Annie
Elvis sits on a stool to sing: Are You Lonesome Tonight, Little Sister/Get Back, One Night
Blue Suede Shoes
Heartbreak Hotel
Patch It Up
Bridge Over Troubled Water
(dressed in new outfit)
Gospel Medley: Where No One Stands Alone, Run On, Saved, You'll Never Walk Alone
Intermission
Elvis dressed in iconic black leather: Trouble, Guitar Man, Jailhouse Rock, Baby What You Want Me To Do, I Washed My Hands In Muddy Water, In The Ghetto, Suspicious Minds
Closing vamp
Encore: If I Can Dream, Glory Glory Hallelujah

[King Of The Whole World]

Viva,

I'm not sure if you are thinking of the same type of hologram that I am. I'm not thinking of the Tupac show that is like a game character, that’s not even him. The American Idol clip that they did is what I'm talking about, that is pure Elvis. That's why I was thinking of like Aloha, 68 special and TTWIS shows. To do the hologram that I would want to see, Elvis would have needed to been filmed.

I could see Elvis on the 68 special, sitting on the stage with the "live" crew around him. So the image you see is actually Elvis, not just a "game like character" on the stage.