Reply With Quote[QUOTE=LaurieT;389884]If you werent referring to me Laurie, then I apologize.Originally Posted by Tigerman1975
Viva Elvis Media Tour
"Every time I see the show, I take notes," Priscilla told me in a one-on-one conversation before the gala. "It's in the best shape it's ever been since it's started. I think it's much tighter. They've added more Cirque elements. I think that the dance numbers are better and so smooth.
"We're still working on some music. They promised to put a little more gospel in it. More gospel, that was really where his roots were. They're going to add more of him right in the beginning. And we're still working on the 'Jail House Rock' number and trying to get him in that, too. They need him in that. Even though you're blown away by the guys walking upside down, Elvis should be there. They are working on that.
"It's been a long journey, but it's a wonderful tribute to him -- Cirque's incredible celebration of Elvis. I'm thrilled a whole new generation of people, children who now come with their parents who were originally taken to see Elvis by their own parents -- that's three generations -- are now being introduced to him. Obviously even as a young kid, there's something that connects Elvis with children, too. We're nurturing that generation now."
[QUOTE=LaurieT;389884]If you werent referring to me Laurie, then I apologize.
I'm the king of the jungle, they call me Tiger Man. If you cross my path, you take your own life in your hands.
Why thank you.This is why I love u tigerman couldn't have said it better myself
I'm the king of the jungle, they call me Tiger Man. If you cross my path, you take your own life in your hands.
I got u babe
Son if you ever say another derogatory word about Elvis Aaron Presley I WILL KICK THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF YOU!~
The implication from some has always been that somehow, someway, hook or crook-Priscilla convinced Vernon to make her an executor and IMO that paints Priscilla the "bad guy" which is what many want to do-that was my point. Honestly lets all look at it from Priscillas view-she knew she would be villified by fans who already hated her long before she was an executor, she knew she would be blamed if the estate fell into bankruptcy, she knew she would be blamed if she opened the doors to the public, she knew she would...........be blamed!I'm not suggesting she 'forced' or 'threatened' Vernon to do anything. There are ways to get people to do things by manipulation or suggestion without forcing anyone. I've never read anything about her threatening Vernon physically???Where's that from???
I have no idea how it happened but it does seem odd that over the years everything ive read or seen on tv , it all point to and says the same. Plus it makes sense. I don't think it was a bad decision either. Vernon was clearly ill, and if I had been in his position and knew that Elvis wanted the best for Lisa - who better to take over than her mother. She would surely look after her daughters best interests, all the time Lisa was unable to do it herself, being just a kid.
I was mainly answering the post that Priscilla had no choice about being executor (which was suggesting, to my mind, that she didnt want to be thrust into the limelight as executor) and pointing out that everything ive seen and read states that she persuaded -not forced or threatened- Vernon to name her as one of the executors.
She knew all of this-and stepped up and said, "well what choice do I have-Lisa is my daughter"?
She takes all the heat-rarely has anyone attacked the other 2 co-executors as money hungry or power mad or uncaring about Elvis and his image, its either Priscilla or Lisa who get the heat of fans and public.
IMO That takes guts to attempt something-and know about 60 to 70% of the people will hate you, criticize you, and second guess you every moment you live.
She is no saint but no one on earth is-no one on earth has "walked in her shoes, had to listen to her critics, or raise the child she and Elvis conceived" so going by Elvis's own words I try to remember.... we have not trod that ground in her footware.
I try to be somewhat understanding of the uniqueness of this situation-that she is in.
Work in Progress!
She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....
I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it allI just know that she didn't do this out of love not for Lisa not for Elvis and certainly not for us fans she secured her own financial stability buy securing Lisa's and I dont think anyone can argue that...something was in it for her
Son if you ever say another derogatory word about Elvis Aaron Presley I WILL KICK THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF YOU!~
LOVE you posts you say so well and I agree lots and lots with you. And the other 2s executors werent against Elvis and bad mouth him.She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....
I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it all
Many imitators but only one Elvis.
I agree!
I dream a world where man no other man
will scorn. Where LOVE will bless the earth
and peace its paths adorn...
I agree with you, KPM.
The thing is; not one of us knew Elvis or Priscilla personally. I'm sure a case could be made for both. I can only say, I'd not be comfortable in that lifestyle. In my opinion, I don't think either of them were. It's a rough life from what I've seen. Especially if you try to be married and have a family. Elvis is an emotional topic. I try to not fight and argue about any of it. All anyone can do is just find the most honest reports about things. Very hard to do sometimes with so much "stuff" out here from everyone that claims to be his "best friend." They've had 30 plus years to spread their hate/jealousy around. I'm just glad I took the time to look for myself instead of listening to some of the others.
And Pris was among those in the 30 years slingin muds is all some of we are sayin. She is no innocent in this, her own things she say and do make fans not like her that see pass the pr stuff she puts out there and some fans buy.
Many imitators but only one Elvis.
And rough life so much she go right back to midst of it in LA when she could move anywhere in world and be annonymous.
Many imitators but only one Elvis.
Good post. Also it made me wonder, if Priscilla hadn't convinced Vernon she should be an executor, wonder what would she be doing now? As by all accounts Graceland would have been sold. So with Graceland sold, Lisa doing her own thing, I wonder if Pris would just be doing interviews and, well, what else!?She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....
I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it all
I heard that Vernon had discussed opening Graceland to the public (think I read it). Obviously the Meditation Gardens were opened before Graceland was, but I don't know what the outcome of that discussion was. Whether Vernon became too ill to carry out the idea, or it was just dismissed. But had P not become an exec, as this discussion had apparently taken place, I wonder if one of the other execs would have carried it through and Graceland would be open anyway.
Last edited by May; 02-06-2011 at 02:37 AM.
Guts?? When millions are at the end of the rainbow?? Sure. Make up your mind, either the co-executors helped or didn't. Priscilla takes the credit so she gets the heat. That's they way it is. She acts like she single handedly made the estate into a billion dollar enterprize. You can't have it both ways. And don't fool yourself, she loves the attention. That was one problem she had when with Elvis, she wasn't getting enough of her own notarity-she even said so.
And have you not heard--even bad P.R. is still P.R. and with out putting her face out there constantly, she would be getting neither good or bad. Had she done what other "ex wives"..then she could still rake in her millions and be left alone.
Name one other ex wife who represents her dead husbands name???
I don't feel sorry for her one bit. She set out to get Elvis, she got him. She wanted to be Mrs. Elvis Presley, she wanted fame through it and that is what she got, and she has held on to that with all her might, even to the point of not allowing her own daughter over shadow her. How would anyone even know if Lisa ever even had a desire to be in Priscilla's place??? Cilla would have had to give up the one thing she lived for. Lisa knows that.
What most fail to take into account was that Elvis was one of the most poorly managed and self-indulgent superstars in entertainment history. True, he had generated more than $4 billion in revenues during his career. But surprisingly little of that money found its way into his pockets-and even less stayed there.
Bad management and bad financial advice ate up about 60 cents of every dollar Elvis earned
It turned out that his manager, Colonel Tom Parker, had made a deal that cost Elvis more than $500 million in potential earning-including $320 million in lost royalties from records sold after Elvis’s death alone. In March 1973, he’d sold RCA the royalty rights to all of Elvis’s songs up to that point for $5.4 million. After Parker extracted his usual 50% commission, Elvis was left with $2.7 million-$1.35 million after taxes-for virtually his entire life’s work.
As Sean O’Neal writes in Elvis, Inc.,”The final agreement signed by Colonel Parker…may have been the single most damaging contract in the history of the music industry…Elvis sold the rights to the greatest master catalog in music history and was left with virtually nothing to show for it. Thereafter, his estate received no royalties at all for any songs Elvis recorded prior to March 1973.”
When the probate court tallied up the King’s assets, all they found was Graceland, two airplanes, eight cars, two trucks, seven motorcycles, guns, jewelry, and miscellaneous other personal property. Total value: about $7 million. Elvis left everything to his 9-year-old daughter, Lisa Marie, who would inherit when she turned 25. Elvis’s father Vernon Presley, a man with a seventh-grade education, was charged with keeping the estate solvent until then.
What little was left of the Presley estate dwindled fast: in February 1978 the National Bank of Commerce sued the estate to collect $1.4 million in unpaid loans . A short time later, the IRS upgraded its estimate of the estate’s value and slapped it with millions in new inheritance taxes-payable immediately. Security and upkeep on Graceland ate up $500,000 a year.
Vernon Presley sold off the airplanes, jewelry, and Cadillacs, and even the house that Elvis had bought him, in a desperate scramble to keep the estate off the auction block. But the Presley estate was edging closer and closer to bankruptcy.
The effort to keep Elvis’s estate out of bankruptcy was exhausting and probably contributed to his father Vernon Presley’s death from heart disease in June 1979.
In his will, Vernon named three co-executors to take over his responsibilities: Elvis’s accountant Joseph Hanks, the National Bank of Commerce, and Priscilla Presley-Elvis’s ex-wife and the mother of his daughter Lisa Marie. Priscilla had no business experience and had known nothing about the King’s financial affairs during the marriage… but to everyone’s surprise, she and her advisors took a leading role in rescuing the Presley estate for Lisa Marie.
With the bulk of Elvis’s fortune gone forever, the executors were forced to make the best of what remained, namely 1) Graceland, and 2) Elvis’s name and likeness.
Everyone can hate Priscilla if they want to, I'm just glad she saw fit to hang in there and help get the job done. If not, I'd never have been able to see all that made up Elvis Presley.
Last edited by sasha; 02-06-2011 at 07:02 AM.
I'm afraid I'm one of the people who straddle the fence where she is concerned..............
I didn't live her life, and Elvis wouldn't have been the easiest Man to live with, however it was her choice to marry him..........sooo
Her keeping of the Presley name, however she is legally entitled to it sticks in my throat.......however!!!!
We cannot see inside her mind to judge her motivations for getting involved with keeping Graceland.....sure Lisa is her Daughter........but was it totally selfless............I dunno..........none of us do.......
The end thing is we do have somewhere to go to visit Elvis, and there are products out there to buy. Whether you choose to buy them is up to the individual. There's not much else they can do without owning the rights to his music...............
"NO-ONE, BUT NO-ONE,IS HIS EQUAL, OR EVER WILL BE. HE WAS, AND IS SUPREME".Mick Jagger
I only know what I would have done. Sold the whole mess,and what was left {if anything} I'd just put it in the bank and get on with my life. I don't have much patience though. Just glad someone took care of it for me.The sooner I could get away from any of my ex's problems, the better I liked it.
I've been straddling the fence on Cilla for a long time. I just give credit where credit is due, don't have to like the person...:} Now, it's up to Sillerman . We'll see what he can do.
I hope everyone can read .... Guess not .
Last edited by sasha; 02-06-2011 at 10:40 PM.
So good way you say Laurie.
And five million dollars for way than was nothin to yawn at and again Elvis sell Elvis not his ex-wife. She do more damage than good. Graceland would have been open no matter she there or not. And she steal her daughter rightful place. Maybe Lisa would like to have be there but mommy would no let her.
Many imitators but only one Elvis.
That's what I would like to know. If the other execs would have opened Graceland anyway, from Vernon's idea. ??
Because of what was reported then, I guess I'd wonder if the other Executors would have the authority to open Graceland as a business. They DID have the authority to sell it and pay off the debts/back taxes, etc. As Lisa's mother/guardian , I'm sure that might have helped their position.All this is something we'll never know; unless we were one of them .
" February 1978 the National Bank of Commerce sued the estate to collect $1.4 million in unpaid loans . A short time later, the IRS upgraded its estimate of the estate’s value and slapped it with millions in new inheritance taxes-payable immediately. Security and upkeep on Graceland ate up $500,000 a year."
That is an understatement. The Colonel walked away with a large amount of Elvis' money. I think if Weintraub would have took over in the early to mid 70's Elvis might have had more money when he died. Thats not counting the large amounts that he chose to spend.
I'm the king of the jungle, they call me Tiger Man. If you cross my path, you take your own life in your hands.
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