Reply With Quote"Viva Elvis" debuts at #45 on this week's ARIA (Australia) album chart. In addition to "Viva Elvis", "The King" re-enters the chart at #70.
The album also enters the charts in Holland at No.13.
Brian
Elvis fans need to wake up and come down to reality. Elvis is aging and his original music is becoming more dated and less interesting to the general public. They don't see him as we do. They don't hear him as we do and they don't take his work as serious as we do. The VE album is not for the fans who bought the vinyl LPS or buy the FTD cds, but for the new kids who listen to their music on Ipod to reintroduce what once was with a touch of modernity that they can relate to. The album is well done for a remix album of this nature. His vocals are strong and upfront whereas on other remixes it's buried behind computerized drum machines. While I'm not happy with just 12 tracks, I do like it's content. VE-The Album presents real instruments as used on modern day albums. The sampling of multiple tracks into one is pure brilliance! The producers are Grammy award winners which could result in a Grammy for Elvis, 33 years after his death.
The selfish spoiled fans not supporting it is what's hurt Elvis' chances at it topping the charts one more time. There's no one to blame for that but yourselves.
"Viva Elvis" debuts at #45 on this week's ARIA (Australia) album chart. In addition to "Viva Elvis", "The King" re-enters the chart at #70.
The album also enters the charts in Holland at No.13.
Brian
Last edited by Brian Quinn; 11-14-2010 at 09:17 AM.
'Viva Elvis' - The Album enters the UK Charts at No.19. The highest entry so far announced for any country is Holland where it debuted at 13.
Brian
I am a REAL Elvis fan and have been since 1956. I think this is Elvis' most innovative album to date. The sound is amazing and the recording techniques outstanding fusing comments from Elvis' film and TV appearances into the various tracks. I have already played this album more than any other I can remembver since Elvis died. The next major release is scheduled to be another 'Duets' album but this time around with males/females/instrumentalists and hopefully with most being the lesser known gems from the Elvis Catalogue. I think that album could even surpass the current one.Originally Posted by Unchained
Gave it a spin after getting this one for free weeks ago. Don't like it much.
Did Sony approved on this? What's next, the garbage collector mixing an Elvis CD?
I guess they going to give everyone a turn on these future Elvis releases, except the real Elvis fans.
Brian
Well that Duets CD could be a great thing only if they choose the right people, love to hear B.B. King or Clapton licks on an Elvis tune. And not only the past great rockers, but some interesting people from today rock scene, I said rock scene, please don't load the duets project with some pop bubble gum american ***** stuff, or some country third rate artists PLEASE!!!
Now this Viva thing, and that duets stuff you mention, are great as promoting Elvis music to new generations, right. But this will work great only if Legacy continues to re releasing Elvis albums that are out of print, as they did with From Elvis in Memphis or On Stage, let's hope and see which new projects with the ORIGINAL material are coming this 2011 or else what are we promoting here? If this really generates some renew interest in Elvis, this is the time to make some old records from platinium to diamond.
Now I still haven't heard anything about Viva Elvis in 5.1 Surround DVD!!! What's going on? this is great stuff to be released that way, giving us a lisening experience that we can't have with the originals no matter how many times they remaster the old stuff!!!
I'm I the only one in this forum that can't believe is not being released in 5.1?
Hope a deluxe edition will come out soon for christmas with 5.1 sound and a few of the big omitions like: It's Now or Never, All Shook Up, Return to Sender and Jailhouse Rock, I WAS WAITING FOR THOSE!!!! The story line lisening experience of Viva Elvis is a bit broken without those tracks to me.
Last edited by Raised on Rock; 11-14-2010 at 06:50 PM.
Elvis fans need to wake up and come down to reality. Elvis is aging and his original music is becoming more dated and less interesting to the general public. They don't see him as we do. They don't hear him as we do and they don't take his work as serious as we do. The VE album is not for the fans who bought the vinyl LPS or buy the FTD cds, but for the new kids who listen to their music on Ipod to reintroduce what once was with a touch of modernity that they can relate to. The album is well done for a remix album of this nature. His vocals are strong and upfront whereas on other remixes it's buried behind computerized drum machines. While I'm not happy with just 12 tracks, I do like it's content. VE-The Album presents real instruments as used on modern day albums. The sampling of multiple tracks into one is pure brilliance! The producers are Grammy award winners which could result in a Grammy for Elvis, 33 years after his death.
The selfish spoiled fans not supporting it is what's hurt Elvis' chances at it topping the charts one more time. There's no one to blame for that but yourselves.
Of course the "general public" do not see him as we see him-but that has always been, even in 1956 there were people who did not get him, nor rock.
You can not please everyone-especially with an artist who is dead and not producing.
I think younger fans need to also face reality-no matter how you try to repackage, or remix-he will never be in the mainstream flow of modern music as he was in the 50s, 60s and 70s. What I find fasicnating is some say "he was special, he was one of a kind, he was super talented" ......yet we must remix, remix remix- to get that across???
Not every young person in 1956 liked Elvis or his music-but the ones who got it, got it!
Not every young person in 1966 liked Elvis or his music-but the ones who got it, got it!
Not every young person in 1970 liked Elvis or his music-but the ones who got it, got it!...........................on and on and on.....to present day 2010.
Now for the comment "selfish spoiled fans not supporting this album is whats hurt Elvis's chances at topping the charts one more time".....totally disagree!!
Not sure how any Elvis fan is selfish or spoiled because they prefer original music above remixes, eveyone can like or dislike what they want and to buy or not....
but You just said "The VE album is not for fans who bought the vinyl LPs, or the FTDs cds but for the new kids.........................so if this album is a huge success or failure it has nothing to do with fans and everything to do with "new kids" as you yourself put it.
Work in Progress!
Also it seems your opinion of this effort has changed-other comments you made in similar threads were not positive here is a sample of a couple which you posted about amateur remixes compared to the Sony effort:Elvis fans need to wake up and come down to reality. Elvis is aging and his original music is becoming more dated and less interesting to the general public. They don't see him as we do. They don't hear him as we do and they don't take his work as serious as we do. The VE album is not for the fans who bought the vinyl LPS or buy the FTD cds, but for the new kids who listen to their music on Ipod to reintroduce what once was with a touch of modernity that they can relate to. The album is well done for a remix album of this nature. His vocals are strong and upfront whereas on other remixes it's buried behind computerized drum machines. While I'm not happy with just 12 tracks, I do like it's content. VE-The Album presents real instruments as used on modern day albums. The sampling of multiple tracks into one is pure brilliance! The producers are Grammy award winners which could result in a Grammy for Elvis, 33 years after his death.
The selfish spoiled fans not supporting it is what's hurt Elvis' chances at it topping the charts one more time. There's no one to blame for that but yourselves.
"Screw Viva Elvis and it's chopped up amature remix. This real amature knows how to do it right! Check out each one of his remixes of the 50's tracksa. You will be BLOWN AWAY!!"
(this was from a thread entitled, now this is how you remix Elvis)
Another comment you made about Viva Elvis from the thread, Viva Elvis the Tracklisting
Re: 'Viva Elvis' - The Album Tracklisting
"The hack job done on this album is pitiful and an embarrassment to Elvis. SONY and RCA really f'd up on this one big time. If you want to hear a real remix then check this out...."
Last edited by KPM; 11-16-2010 at 01:56 PM.
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I totally agree with you Ken
Elvis was who he was and I think that's how the new generations should get to know him too. We can't remix all his old songs to eternity just to satisfy the music taste of the general public. It is true that Elvis wasn't, isn't and won't be understood by everyone, but that's also one of the things that make him and us - the fans, special
Well, the first week sales of 'Viva Elvis' The Album are in for the U.S.A. and they are much worse than expected. It sold 12,622 copies and will enter The Billboard Chart give or take one or two places at No.46.
I find this result extremely disappointing. There must be a genuine reason why this release has not done as well as expected and I do not accept that some Elvis fans do not like it as the main reason. I suspect people did not know of it's release and that SONY have failed Elvis with marketing the album. Even the 2008 'Christmas Duets' fared better. Extremely frustrating when one looks at the forthcoming Michael Jackson Album due out on 14th December which has already got an advance in the U.S.A. alone of 800,000.
Brian
All I can say it that I have seen little to announce this album anywhere except Elvis internet sites. I did see a tv promo for it on TV Land network on Sunday during the Andy Griffith shows airing. It is far from the marketing blitz which occured when 30#1's was released.Well, the first week sales of 'Viva Elvis' The Album are in for the U.S.A. and they are much worse than expected. It sold 12,622 copies and will enter The Billboard Chart give or take one or two places at No.46.
I find this result extremely disappointing. There must be a genuine reason why this release has not done as well as expected and I do not accept that some Elvis fans do not like it as the main reason. I suspect people did not know of it's release and that SONY have failed Elvis with marketing the album. Even the 2008 'Christmas Duets' fared better. Extremely frustrating when one looks at the forthcoming Michael Jackson Album due out on 14th December which has already got an advance in the U.S.A. alone of 800,000.
Brian
I saw it advertised in the ad for Target the week it came out-but not for K-Mart nor Walmart. Also I tried requesting the remixed "Suspicious Minds" on a current radio station in St Louis and they said they did not have it-I told them it was on the "Viva Elvis" album and they said "try the oldies station"
The MJ album with new material and not far from the time he passed away is going to get big sales.
Think if a totally new material album had come out in 78 or 79 after Elvis died.......unfortunately they did not have enough real new qualityunreleased songs in the can to make a full album.
Work in Progress!
KPM,
That has been the position for many years now in the U.S.A. I have tried making requests myself to U.S. radio stations only to be told the same as you. SONY need to take a deep look at the way the U.S. market is structured, including airplay, and seriously attempt to overcome this 'oldie' bias. After all Michael Jackson is an 'oldie' but I bet he doesn't suffer from lack of airplay. Seems to be double standards here.
Brian
I agree with you, my only thinking about MJ is that even though he is an oldie he was about to make the London appearances right before he died, so this last year he has been in the news so much-now a new album with new music perhaps the stations feel that makes the difference.
When Elvis died I recall his singles, My Way, Softly as I Leave You, The Elvis Medley and a few others still got airplay on local radio even though he was dead.
ALLC actually got airplay on a couple of St Louis modern rock stations when the remix hit big-and the DJs said it was heavily requested-but the same station just turned me down for SMinds. Hard to figure.
Work in Progress!
I knew good and well that when Sony made that $250 million deal with the Jackson clan that Elvis would be bumped down and sure enough that is what is happening. Don't expect any top a-list stars on the coming duets album either. It'll mostly be no names or has beens.Well, the first week sales of 'Viva Elvis' The Album are in for the U.S.A. and they are much worse than expected. It sold 12,622 copies and will enter The Billboard Chart give or take one or two places at No.46.
I find this result extremely disappointing. There must be a genuine reason why this release has not done as well as expected and I do not accept that some Elvis fans do not like it as the main reason. I suspect people did not know of it's release and that SONY have failed Elvis with marketing the album. Even the 2008 'Christmas Duets' fared better. Extremely frustrating when one looks at the forthcoming Michael Jackson Album due out on 14th December which has already got an advance in the U.S.A. alone of 800,000.
Brian
Yep, sad but true, 99% thats what will happen with that. Just as it happened with the Hyde Park Elvis tribute concert few months ago. BIG BIG disapointment.
Now who's to blame for that?
True, some Elvis fans not liking it, its not the answer. Poor marketing might be. Now here in Latinamerica, as I explained in a previous post, the reason it is not as much "poor" marketing but not having a clue about to WHO the album is marketed for.Well, the first week sales of 'Viva Elvis' The Album are in for the U.S.A. and they are much worse than expected. It sold 12,622 copies and will enter The Billboard Chart give or take one or two places at No.46.
I find this result extremely disappointing. There must be a genuine reason why this release has not done as well as expected and I do not accept that some Elvis fans do not like it as the main reason. I suspect people did not know of it's release and that SONY have failed Elvis with marketing the album. Even the 2008 'Christmas Duets' fared better. Extremely frustrating when one looks at the forthcoming Michael Jackson Album due out on 14th December which has already got an advance in the U.S.A. alone of 800,000.
Brian
To the kids? who are those so called "kids"? that's the most generic unuseful phrase ever. As I explained on that post, the "kids" over here that are into Elvis or might be interested in Elvis ar NOT AT ALL the ones interested in the artist they choose to duet here on Love me Tender, and the fans of that artist hardly will be interested in Elvis, that was a Mayor marketing fault. You confuse the buying audience, and major sells are lost.
To say "the kids" is an empty target. To identify the kids that are buying which kind of music? as the ones that we might market Elvis is a more practical one.
Other reasons, the 12 track playlist was big turn off, at least 16 tracks is decent these days.
Now THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT NOT AN ARTIST CREATING NEW MUSIC, and thats another reason 12 tracks is not enough, you want all solei on your pocket. 5.1 surround dvd with cool visuals, now THAT WILL WORK.
You got to understand these. "THE KIDS" won't buy a cd (and that's like a dinosaur to them) out of mere curiosity or because they really liked one track (let's say Suspicious Minds new rmx) won't be a reason, they just don't, if they want to know what it is out of curiosity, or to have the one track they liked on their IPOD, well FACT: they will just illegaly download the dam thing for free. You want them to buy it, then you need to give them something they can't get that way, and you need to make them to love it.
Just take a look on the visuals on the Beatles Love 5.1 edition, no they didn't need to own a lot of footage, just photos, home videos, an a bit of footage (stuff EPE CAN provide) make it, the rest was great animation inspired on the solei show. The 5.1 Love was a blast sonically and visually, and IT MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BUY THE CD, cause this remixes IS THE KIND OF STUFF YOU DON'T REALLY WANT FOR YOU CAR OR IPOD, you got Elvis and Beatles old records for that, THIS IS THE STUFF THAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON A GREAT SHOW WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY ON YOU HOME THEATER. Look: (now where's Viva Elvis on the video area? nowhere land)
Some other reasons:
Well this Viva Elvis should also be released in vinyl. NO,not because of the old fans adding it to their old LP collection, but BECUASE the "kids" are the ones that actually are more interested today in vinyl releases, most new bands release their stuff also in vinyl, tha'ts the item you won't download as you got to own, PLUS its great for DJ's to use in clubs and so, not a CD.
Another one, that waited to long since VIVA ELVIS made the debut in Vegas, all that hype is pretty much gone 7 months latter, so momentum was wasted.
Last edited by Raised on Rock; 11-17-2010 at 06:30 PM.
It`s a bit hard to go and blame "selfish,spoiled fans" for this release not succeeding, most of us have,at one time or another,bought "new" Elvis releases almost out of blind loyalty to Elvis,even when the releases themselves were well below par. In the end we buy a lot of things we could do without,very often because we can`t get the things we really want.
I think that todays music fans,and I don`t mean just the general record buying public,but the young people who are serious about music would buy a good Elvis release if it was presented in a good light to them. "Viva Elvis" and the "Duets" idea are just novelty items at best,people who are really into their music aren`t fooled by such things...so if these "target audiences" have to exist then just target people who buy anything that`s new and bright and shiny that they`ve seen on tv...heck,throw them a big poster and Teddy-bear keyring as well while you`re at it. The failure of this release or any similar idea is down to the people who come up with it...not to the fans.
You got it! that's the issue here, are they gonna keept marketing Elvis as a novelty for young people that would buy anything that's new and shiny? or they will target Elvis to people that is really into music. For young people that is really into music, marketing Elvis through remixes and Thalia (the gal that dueted Elvis on Love Me Tender for the latinamerican market) is to label Elvis as: big fat joke, commercial garish.
Remember back in the late 70's and early 80's when RCA believed Elvis market was mainly bored housewifes, that migh buy Elvis only on ultra cheap releases with the remainder of the monthly check? Then Jorgensen and that new team came in, and marketed Elvis to music lovers in general, they marketed not as a nostalgia has been, but as the primal musical force that he was, and still is, then came the Essential Elvis series, and then the 50's box set almost won a grammy, now that changed the way Elvis was marketed through the 90's and early 00's. Then Sony came in and that edge little by litte was lost, did they lost the target again? Do we need a new team with fresh ideas?
Now it is not that this Elvis/Solei thing is wrong, its all right, I got two copies lol (so don't blame me for low sales lol), I enjoy it, but: a) you don't believe a new generation of younger fans will value Elvis because of it (this is more like a nostalgia stroboscopic trip for the long term fans actually) b) If you label Viva Elvis as This is Elvis for the future, you are labeling Elvis to the fans as: not and artist, a musical force, but as mere big fat spectacle.
Once again we are dealing with: Elvis as quick money vs. Elvis the artist. All the way since '61 (Wild in The Country vs Blue Hawaii) to 2010 (Elvis '75 vs. Viva Elvis) is been Elvis Karma.
OK this is Viva Elvis, this is money making, this is big time entertainment, well dam it, let's do it right, where's my 5.1 DVD surround copy of it? where is Viva Elvis on the video area? This is the 20th time a talk about the 5.1 missing, Im I the only one here noticing that big mistake?
Hmmm... Im sure they will release it little latter, so people will buy it twice and increase sells, well bastards, I will, I can't wait for it, but if they don't, do stupid, they are wasting great chances here.
Last edited by Raised on Rock; 11-18-2010 at 01:36 PM.
Apparently the Japanese edition of the 'Viva Elvis' album contains 14 tracks including a "Love Me Tender' duet featuring Hikawa Kiyoshi and the JXL Remix of 'A Little Less Conversation'.
Brian
'Viva Elvis' The Album enters the Canadian Charts at No.10. Well done the Canadian fans.
Brian
'Viva Elvis' The Album has dropped from 19 to 52 in this week's UK Album Charts.
Very sad.
Brian
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