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    Re: was ELVIS sad and alone at the end

    This is something,I guess we'll never know.Elvis was human,just like the rest of us.I'm sure he had his days too.
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    Cool Re: was ELVIS sad and alone at the end

    Quote Originally Posted by monk37 View Post
    Everyone has times of joy and sadness, Elvis was no different

    was he lonely that week?

    I don't think so - he had Lisa with him - he was about to do a tour, he was looking forward to things
    I really don't feel that Elvis felt alone or unhappy, and afterall, he did go to the dentist wee hours of the morning, don't know about you, but I wont ever go to a dentist if I'm already in a bad mood.
    No, this was a time that he did a lot of reading, and a lot of soul searching, but i do not believe he was lonely.
    His worst moments I think were after the publishing and release of that book "Elvis what Happened?"

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    Thats a good point Genie. And a good thing to say to people who ask if Elvis took an overdose intentionally. If you were thinking of doing such a thing, why would you go to the dentist?!

    Says it all I think!

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    sometimes life can be challenging. he had several issues challenging him. but I think he was pretty resilent. he was mad at Ginger but decided, if she didn't go with on this tour he'd get someone else. so yes, I'm sure alot was getting him down, but I also think he had the ability to make the best of some of the worst situations, when all is said and done and rise above it all.

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    Having watched Elvis In Concert you can see Elvis was in poor health, he even commented he could sing but couldn't talk. Elvis was in bad shape whatever spin you want to put on it, he clearly struggled with weight and he was bothered about his appearance. It's obvious from those concert films to see Elvis was medicated. 'Elvis What Happened' was playing on his mind, Ginger wasn't the support Elvis needed (not her fault) the guys had run out of ways to try in their way to help. Elvis became reclusive and insular, Isolating himself away from those who wanted some part of him be it his fame or his money.

    When you look at the bigger picture Elvis was at an all time low, having Lisa around was a joy for Elvis and he loved her dearly, but this wasn't enough to pull Elvis out of the mire. Elvis was stuck in a downward spiral from which he couldn't drag himself out of.

    To say Elvis was upbeat about his upcoming concert is a spin the guys have put out there just TCB'ing. The up coming tour would have been like any other in 1977, there's talk of new set list etc but surely Elvis would have done this sooner if it was going to happen.

    Unfortunately Elvis did die sad and lonely, worried about what his future held for him, that's what makes his life such a tragedy!

    Elvis isn't unique in that fame Isolates and consumes their lives and they have to use methods to control it i.e. drugs or other methods to better understand the turmoil they find themselves in.

    Life can be an overwhelming experience without the pressures of fame, living in a fish bowl. God bless you Elvis, had you been around a decade later there would have been other support processes to help you.

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    I disagree that it was spin as you opined. I think of it as Elvis doing what Elvis did so often, make the best of a situation that was difficult. like I said, I do feel that he was in some ways resillent. time and time again, he rose above hard challenges in life. problem is, we will never know if at the time of his death he would eventually have risen above the one's he was going through. I will agree that at the time, this was one of his darkest moments and he was finding it most hard, and why he did try to do some housecleaning and wanted more time alone. but time alone does not always mean lonely. it can actually be the best thing for oneself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet_One_E. View Post
    I disagree that it was spin as you opined. I think of it as Elvis doing what Elvis did so often, make the best of a situation that was difficult. like I said, I do feel that he was in some ways resillent. time and time again, he rose above hard challenges in life. problem is, we will never know if at the time of his death he would eventually have risen above the one's he was going through. I will agree that at the time, this was one of his darkest moments and he was finding it most hard, and why he did try to do some housecleaning and wanted more time alone. but time alone does not always mean lonely. it can actually be the best thing for oneself.

    I agree with you here. It's what most all have to do at one time or another.
    Alone does not always mean lonely either.
    Sometimes being alone helps to figure out--where do I go from here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet_One_E. View Post
    I disagree that it was spin as you opined. I think of it as Elvis doing what Elvis did so often, make the best of a situation that was difficult. like I said, I do feel that he was in some ways resilient. time and time again, he rose above hard challenges in life. problem is, we will never know if at the time of his death he would eventually have risen above the one's he was going through. I will agree that at the time, this was one of his darkest moments and he was finding it most hard, and why he did try to do some housecleaning and wanted more time alone. but time alone does not always mean lonely. it can actually be the best thing for oneself.
    It's that time alone that some say cost his life! People have postulated that if Elvis had been with Linda he would still have survived August 16th. I don't doubt that Elvis had good days, however, I commented on the question posed for the thread and the history behind it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sasha View Post
    I agree with you here. It's what most all have to do at one time or another.
    Alone does not always mean lonely either.
    Sometimes being alone helps to figure out--where do I go from here!
    As I commented above, alone time isn't always good either. What Elvis needed was for someone to grab him by the scruff of his neck around 1974 and show him where his life was headed. The guys knew, Linda knew, Priscilla knew & Dr. Nick should of known that when you are an addict when those around you see what happens, they tell you. They try interventions, when they fail those around you are ostracised, the dependant spends time alone continuing down a self destructive path!

    Elvis was a strong character, his strong personality had gotten him to the heights no others had reached. The negative effect was he couldn't be stopped by those around him from continuing down a path that wasn't good for him. If you factor in the Colonel and his work ethic it's a recipe for disaster.

    In modern time you have therapists, doctors who are not bought off, you have a management TEAM who cater for you, most important of all you have seen the effects of those before you that will give you a road map of tragedy.

    .....Even then we still see celebrity meltdowns, the life of a celebrity, especially of Elvis' calibre is NOT easy, I'm not saying I could have managed any better, in fact I know I couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    It's that time alone that some say cost his life! People have postulated that if Elvis had been with Linda he would still have survived August 16th. I don't doubt that Elvis had good days, however, I commented on the question posed for the thread and the history behind it.



    As I commented above, alone time isn't always good either. What Elvis needed was for someone to grab him by the scruff of his neck around 1974 and show him where his life was headed. The guys knew, Linda knew, Priscilla knew & Dr. Nick should of known that when you are an addict when those around you see what happens, they tell you. They try interventions, when they fail those around you are ostracised, the dependant spends time alone continuing down a self destructive path!

    Elvis was a strong character, his strong personality had gotten him to the heights no others had reached. The negative effect was he couldn't be stopped by those around him from continuing down a path that wasn't good for him. If you factor in the Colonel and his work ethic it's a recipe for disaster.

    In modern time you have therapists, doctors who are not bought off, you have a management TEAM who cater for you, most important of all you have seen the effects of those before you that will give you a road map of tragedy.

    .....Even then we still see celebrity meltdowns, the life of a celebrity, especially of Elvis' calibre is NOT easy, I'm not saying I could have managed any better, in fact I know I couldn't.
    I think we'll never know. Everyone has their own way of dealing with life & it's disappointments.
    I choose to be optimistic of "the way Elvis felt," since I have no way of knowing.
    I'm sure most of us could not have managed any better either.
    He had a lot to deal with. Not my idea of a dream life in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasha View Post
    I think we'll never know. Everyone has their own way of dealing with life & it's disappointments.
    I choose to be optimistic of "the way Elvis felt," since I have no way of knowing.
    I'm sure most of us could not have managed any better either.
    He had a lot to deal with. Not my idea of a dream life in any way.
    Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that Elvis walked round every day feeling sorry for himself, I'm sure he would have been upbeat about Lisa being there and if he is well enough to drive himself to the dentist he wasn't beyond all reason.

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    Ehh there are a lot of days I dread going to work, but once I'm there I make the best of it. Maybe those last sessions were like that for him. He wasn't in the mood, but when the guys were there he didn't want to let them down and he did his thing the best he could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    Having watched Elvis In Concert you can see Elvis was in poor health, he even commented he could sing but couldn't talk. Elvis was in bad shape whatever spin you want to put on it, he clearly struggled with weight and he was bothered about his appearance. It's obvious from those concert films to see Elvis was medicated. 'Elvis What Happened' was playing on his mind, Ginger wasn't the support Elvis needed (not her fault) the guys had run out of ways to try in their way to help. Elvis became reclusive and insular, Isolating himself away from those who wanted some part of him be it his fame or his money.

    When you look at the bigger picture Elvis was at an all time low, having Lisa around was a joy for Elvis and he loved her dearly, but this wasn't enough to pull Elvis out of the mire. Elvis was stuck in a downward spiral from which he couldn't drag himself out of.

    To say Elvis was upbeat about his upcoming concert is a spin the guys have put out there just TCB'ing. The up coming tour would have been like any other in 1977, there's talk of new set list etc but surely Elvis would have done this sooner if it was going to happen.

    Unfortunately Elvis did die sad and lonely, worried about what his future held for him, that's what makes his life such a tragedy!

    Elvis isn't unique in that fame Isolates and consumes their lives and they have to use methods to control it i.e. drugs or other methods to better understand the turmoil they find themselves in.

    Life can be an overwhelming experience without the pressures of fame, living in a fish bowl. God bless you Elvis, had you been around a decade later there would have been other support processes to help you.
    Sadly, i agree with you on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvs2day View Post
    on august 16th 1977 the headlines of the local paper read a lonel life ends on E.P. boulevard, and yet over the past 30 odd years since his death we see and hear a somewhat happy man either between takes - for years we were told that the EP boulevard sessions were a disaster and that the nood was real low kwy almost marose , and yet we hear E,P. in a good mod going through take after take and laughing with the band members, and what about the loads of photos that have surfaced especially the candid ones ?, well was he truly sad and alone ?

    it Reminds me when Elvis sang "Are You Lonesome Tonight" 1977, he said ' I am and I was..' ... Elvis often joked on stage or candidly said something and people around him would laughed...but when he said that particular words... i always think he was lonely, ... someone as famous as him, must be hard to be like a regular man who could walk around everywhere without being noticed.

    I think the sadness probably came from his failed marriage,.. he was human, he had the same expectation like everyone when it comes to a family, plus he was a southern gentleman.. no matter how many women he was with...he'd hope he would have someone to go home to whom he could call his own family ( a wife and a daughter ).

    just my two cent

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    In my opinion, the best way to answer this question is to simply listen to the album FROM ELVIS PRESLEY BOULEVARD, MEMPHIS TENNESSEE. As I have said before, I truly believe that album is the closest thing we'll ever have to an autobiography of what Elvis was feeling and going through at that time in his life.

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    Agree with you once again Mike, that album really does say it all

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    you can't be a friend with your boss Elvis build his world that was his choise
    everyone alone at the end we never walk in shoes but if I were him I separete my friendship and workers (M.M.) you can't act like a boss to your friends like he did.Your worker want to be a friend with you for more income they tell you what you want to hear that's the rule he never let them help him he was not that kind of guy so He chose the unreal world and he want to be alone most of time.

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    I don't know too many people who don't go through what Elvis did around his age. it is a time of looking back and regrouping for many. It was all exaggerated because of who he was. you look at your mistakes, often do house cleaning and prioritize. why wouldn't he be reflective. but it can be a good thing. and I still think it is a double edged sword, it can be disappointing, and sometimes lonely, but there is a positive side to it too. elvis was humble and grateful for some things, which I believe gave him happiness and he was not totally unhappy. that is why I think some people where so shocked when he died.

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    remember he was with a 20-year-old girlfriend at the time - not too bad for a 42-year-old

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