will Elvis be the basis for a future religion?

[monk37]

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yeah, by the time I mentioned the book, they had long since stopped listening.,,,,

[waymore44]

I know it sounds crazy, but I do not doubt that this is possible in the future. Of course I feel that it would be wrong.

Some fans basically worship Elvis right now. He was a man. A great man....but a man. Elvis would be upset at the thought of this I do believe.

Facts are facts though....It took Christianity awhile to take hold. I'm pretty sure the gospels were written like 40yrs after Jesus died on the cross. It took a long time for Christianity to spread.

There is no way to know how Elvis will be viewed in 200 yrs if we are still here.

[Getlo]

Facts are facts though....It took Christianity awhile to take hold. I'm pretty sure the gospels were written like 40yrs after Jesus died on the cross.

Actually, it was a couple of hundred at least.

There is no evidence at all that Jesus even existed, let alone that he was the son of "God".

With Elvis, you have every piece of his life documented. And let's be honest, no one would seriously worship a guy like him.

[Merry]

I know it sounds crazy, but I do not doubt that this is possible in the future. Of course I feel that it would be wrong.

Some fans basically worship Elvis right now. He was a man. A great man....but a man. Elvis would be upset at the thought of this I do believe.

Facts are facts though....It took Christianity awhile to take hold. I'm pretty sure the gospels were written like 40yrs after Jesus died on the cross. It took a long time for Christianity to spread.

There is no way to know how Elvis will be viewed in 200 yrs if we are still here.

We all know how some religions started - Ohhh I'm backing away from this one.

Henry viii........

[monk37]

... And let's be honest, no one would seriously worship a guy like him.

A friend of mine went into a tailspin when she realized she was praying to Elvis.

She ended up giving away all her Elvis stuff and dropping out of our little circle of fans.

She was close to 50, so not a silly thing.


and, there were many positive Elvis attributes we'd all do well to do more of - taking care of others, charity, being creative

[waymore44]

Yeah I think we can discuss this in a general sense and not get into religion bashing....at least I can. Some people hear the word religion and just freak out, not sure why. Also bringing up the name of Jesus seems to infuriate some folks.

I personally believe in Jesus Christ as Elvis did. We've got a similar religious upbringing. To us and lot of us here in the southern US, it is blasphemy to worship another god. But...I truly can see how it could hapen. It just may take a long time.

[Getlo]

To us and lot of us here in the southern US, it is blasphemy to worship another god.

Which is pure madness.

All religions believe their God is the one true God.

They can't all be right, now can they?

You can't tell me that all the millions of peaceful Muslims (yes, they exist) Buddhists, Hindus etc around the world are all going to Hell for not believing in Jesus ...

[May]

It's certainly understandable that the two subjects to always avoid are politics and religion. Someone somewhere always takes offence!

[debtdbruno]

....and dancing round a campfire naked.

If that`s the future then I`m gonna start stocking-up on fake tan!!!....don`t want everyone seeing my little white bum...even in the light of the campfire!

Matthew McConaughey is a big fan...........

[waymore44]

Getlo,

I don't take offense to what you say. I can understand your opinion, however you are saying that Elvis suffered from pure madness as well though.

I've got a very open mind and have read a really good book that I would recommend to anyone. It's not a Christian book at all. It's called "The History of God". It's mainly about the three main religions and how they came to be, how they are related and how they don't agree.

EP was always on a spiritual quest to find the truth because in actuality the more you read The Bible, the more questions you will have. I know that's what has happened to me. So I have a lot of the same questions he had I'm sure, so i read a lot about other religions...etc.

I actually read A LOT from the book that Elvis used to give people called "The Impersonal Life" which is written by a guy but from God's perspective. It's definitely not a Christian book, but it has inspired me in many ways and I can see why it did Elvis.

I don't understand why this subject freaks people out so much unless it just makes them think more than they want to about what is ahead of us, which is scientifically unknown I completely agree. I believe because I have faith in Jesus Christ, just like the guy who flies a plane into a tower for Allah has faith he'll be with a bunch of virgins shortly after being blown to bits.

I guess being an athiest requires faith that there is nothing after death because scientifically you can't prove either way, and the only ones that know (or don't know) are dead.

One thing is for sure. Somebody's wrong. Is it me, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Uncle Bill, Grandma, Muhammed, Mr Goldstein? No way to know. I just go off of faith that's all. I really don't sit and think about who's wrong and how they are going to hell. That's not a very good thought and actually not very Christian. I'm not the judge.

[monk37]

Getlo,

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I guess being an athiest requires faith that ....

no, it's really more like not having an opinion because there's no evidence either way

atheism is a specialized area of being a skeptic - which is to doubt the claim, pending the provision of evidence.

It's more a state of your mind isn't really made up - since without evidence there's nothing to process.

But, when you add in history knowledge, statistics and probability....

[Getlo]

Getlo,

I don't take offense to what you say. I can understand your opinion, however you are saying that Elvis suffered from pure madness as well though.

Pretty much.

All religious belief is delusion to one degree or another.

But people often can't help how they're raised. Like millions of others out there, Elvis was raised in his parents' religion and taught never to question.

IMO, no child should ever have religion inflicted on them.

[Getlo]

I guess being an athiest requires faith

No, being an atheist means a freedom from (religious) faith, and a liberation once one dismisses the fairytales.

Once the inate guilt - the guilt of all religions that is hammered into most kids from birth - is gone, that is pure freedom.

You're here once, then you're gone. Heaven is just the grown-up version of Santa Claus, made up many years ago by men who wanted to placate the masses by promising something better than what the people had.

Any "faith" I have as an atheist is in myself and the people around me to do the right thing; which isn't always the case of course.

IMO, humanity cannot truly grow until religion and all Gods are gone. One day, humans will look at Christianity and the other major religions like we view the ancient Egyptians etc today - just fairytales.

Free your mind; free yourself.

[Getlo]

I believe because I have faith in Jesus Christ, just like the guy who flies a plane into a tower for Allah has faith he'll be with a bunch of virgins shortly after being blown to bits.

What's more ridiculous ... being taken to the side of Jesus on puffy white clouds when you die, or rocking up to find 72 virgins waiting for you?

I guess being an athiest requires faith that there is nothing after death because scientifically you can't prove either way

On the contrary ... read The God Delusion for a fascinating thesis on the non-existence of God. Actually, it's more than a thesis, it's out and out proof.

I'd challenge all Christians to read it. If their faith is strong and their God is real ... what are they afraid of?

[Getlo]

It's more a state of your mind isn't really made up - since without evidence there's nothing to process.

Er, no that's agnosticism - ie, the universe's fence sitters.

Atheists' minds are made up, based on the complete lack of evidence of a divine creator.

Then of course, we have the ridiculous theory of Intelligent Design ... oh, don't get me started on that!

[TotallyInsane]

What's more ridiculous ... being taken to the side of Jesus on puffy white clouds when you die, or rocking up to find 72 virgins waiting for you?




On the contrary ... read The God Delusion for a fascinating thesis on the non-existence of God. Actually, it's more than a thesis, it's out and out proof.

I'd challenge all Christians to read it. If their faith is strong and their God is real ... what are they afraid of?

I'm not afraid. I'll read it. But, I'd like to challenge you to read the bible.

[Getlo]

I'm not afraid. I'll read it. But, I'd like to challenge you to read the bible.

I have.

Cover to cover.

Twice.

[KPM]

The christianity I profess, and try to live up to, (try) is based on faith-there are few scientific answers as to the life of Jesus-I believe that was done purposely-because faith is asked for...... faith, that relies on little but trust in a book and a feeling in the heart.
Like many things in life-if you have that faith, have that feeling-no answers are needed, and if you do not have that faith-no answers will suffice.
But as has been mentioned-2 topics sure to cause trouble are politics and religion

[EnigmaticSun]

Getlo, the way of life you plead for means developing rigor mortis in the prime of life. If there's evolution, why is it pointless? The argument is used to put a gun to someone's head as the self-explanatory right of the fittest - this is considered neo-darwinism and was also being used by the Nazis! The evolution theory, as it was formulated by Darwin in scientific terms, does not hint at phenomena of a meta-physical nature and his ideas have been perverted and are perhaps not all wrong.

Yes, there's reason to believe people worship Elvis - the good looks, the voice, the charisma on film or stage; it's all there in the guy from the South with a somewhat lazy mouth and some would like to be or even deify him. Judging by the standard of Elvis' cultural and religious upbringing, it isn't likely to presume he would appreciate such idol worship.

As my fellow British Elvis-fans will confirm he was "quite shy, actually". It's hard to find the middle path that's paved with gold as blind worship and slander are both extremes to a story that has often been told.

[Getlo]

Like many things in life-if you have that faith, have that feeling,

Yes, a feeling. That's all it ever is. There's no certainty.

no answers are needed,

Answers are always needed.