Ann Margret & Elvis

[Diane]

Agree Diane...........not sure if it wasn't the Alana book 'The Colonel', which said it was the Colonel who had Elvis shot from the waist up, not Sullivan, to cultivate the dangerous image.

Nothing would surprise me about that old snowman Deb...........


Diane

[Brian]

It's difficult to say that Elvis didn't want marry Anita,
maybe is not,like you say,but maybe yes,I don't know.

It's not difficult

Anita wanted to get married and have children she got married to someone else not long after she left Elvis.

Elvis liked women and when push came to shove he didn't want to get married at that time.

[Brian]

I agree with you ,as I said before,
and reading your post,I ask Me:Why Priscilla do this?
This it's Love?
For Me NO!
Sorry,I know that this question is not releted at this thread,but I don't understand this!

everybody in Elvis' inner circle Priscilla and the MM thought Larry Gellar and all the different books on all those different religions he was introducing Elvis to became a bad influence on him and started messing up his head.

So Priscilla and the MM wanted all those books burned and Larry Gellar gone.

[Brian]

I don't want to argue with you Brian, I just believe the Colonel was capable of messing with Elvis' life more than we know and yes the media is quite capable of twisting a lot of information for sensationalism.


Diane

The Ann Margret quote originated from a gossip magazine

In those days anyone that the media found out that Elvis was dating
it was reported that Elvis was going to marry them.

[Sweet_One_E.]

I read that Anita found letters from Priscilla begging elvis to let her come visit. she got mad and then heard Elvis telling his daddy he was torn between the two women. so Anita said she would make up his mind for him and leave. she did with Elvis crying and begging her to not go. then after Priscilla came for her first visit and the rest is history. Elvis always had women to fall back on and offering to be hiseverything. I think that is why it was easy to not try as hard with the one he was with. I wish Anita would have fought harder but I understand why she didn't too. Priscilla fell for Elvis big and she was hellll bent to have him as hers. she was young and naive and did not know what that meant. for if a man will cheat with you, he will cheat on you, which she came to know too well.

[SleepyJack]

I know that the Colonel can`t be blamed for everything(much as I`d love to!!) but I would be really surprised if he never had a talk with Elvis about the effect marriage would have on his career,especially in the early days when a huge part of his audience were female. I think that by the time Elvis did get married Colonel Parker was okay with it,supportive even,because it suited his image of the new all-round entertainer and wholesome guy that he wanted the world to see.
I think that people underestimate the Colonels` influence in a lot of aspects of Elvis` life...even if it was only gentle suggestion rather than telling him straight out what to do. I think he is more responsible than we think of planting seeds of doubt in Elvis` mind over many things..... like I said..not all the blame is on him,but definitely more than we think.

[Erhan]

Ann Margert was the right choice for ELVIS They could understand each other she can help him about drugs and unheathy life syle. He can help her about her alcohol problem (I don't know was it be present at time 1963)


Elvis And Woman (+Ann Margret)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ahx7118H4"]YouTube - ELVIS It's Only Love (New Sound)[/ame]

[GIORGIA]

everybody in Elvis' inner circle Priscilla and the MM thought Larry Gellar and all the different books on all those different religions he was introducing Elvis to became a bad influence on him and started messing up his head.

So Priscilla and the MM wanted all those books burned and Larry Gellar gone.

I know this,but if I'm in love with a person,I don't do this!
Never!
Because,for Me this is NOT Love!
But mean that you NOT understand your Love!

[GIORGIA]

I read that Anita found letters from Priscilla begging elvis to let her come visit. she got mad and then heard Elvis telling his daddy he was torn between the two women. so Anita said she would make up his mind for him and leave. she did with Elvis crying and begging her to not go. then after Priscilla came for her first visit and the rest is history. Elvis always had women to fall back on and offering to be hiseverything. I think that is why it was easy to not try as hard with the one he was with. I wish Anita would have fought harder but I understand why she didn't too.

I read that too,and I agree with you.

[GIORGIA]

I know that the Colonel can`t be blamed for everything(much as I`d love to!!) but I would be really surprised if he never had a talk with Elvis about the effect marriage would have on his career,especially in the early days when a huge part of his audience were female. I think that by the time Elvis did get married Colonel Parker was okay with it,supportive even,because it suited his image of the new all-round entertainer and wholesome guy that he wanted the world to see.
I think that people underestimate the Colonels` influence in a lot of aspects of Elvis` life...even if it was only gentle suggestion rather than telling him straight out what to do. I think he is more responsible than we think of planting seeds of doubt in Elvis` mind over many things..... like I said..not all the blame is on him,but definitely more than we think.

I'm TOTALLY agree with you!

[GIORGIA]

Ann Margert was the right choice for ELVIS They could understand each other she can help him about drugs and unheathy life syle. He can help her about her alcohol problem (I don't know was it be present at time 1963)


Elvis And Woman (+Ann Margret)
YouTube - ELVIS It's Only Love (New Sound)

I also agree with you.

[Brian]

I know that the Colonel can`t be blamed for everything(much as I`d love to!!) but I would be really surprised if he never had a talk with Elvis about the effect marriage would have on his career,especially in the early days when a huge part of his audience were female. I think that by the time Elvis did get married Colonel Parker was okay with it,supportive even,because it suited his image of the new all-round entertainer and wholesome guy that he wanted the world to see.
I think that people underestimate the Colonels` influence in a lot of aspects of Elvis` life...even if it was only gentle suggestion rather than telling him straight out what to do. I think he is more responsible than we think of planting seeds of doubt in Elvis` mind over many things..... like I said..not all the blame is on him,but definitely more than we think.

I said Colonel did indeed advise Elvis to hold off on marriage during the early years of his career.
That was good advice other managers of other popular teen idols gave their clients the same advice.
Elvis not getting married to Anita Wood, June Juanico or Dixie Locke didn't have anything to do with the Colonel though he just simply didn't want to marry any of them.
I think hypothetically if Elvis had dated a black woman or an underage girl Colonel would have objected because that would've hurt his career but other than those 2 things he stayed out of Elvis' private life.

I think we all blame Parker too much for things he never even had anything to do with.
tabloids and gossip mags make up stuff all day long if the Colonel had really interfered in Elvis' relationship with AM I think Ann Margret would've said so.

[GIORGIA]

It's not difficult

Anita wanted to get married and have children she got married to someone else not long after she left Elvis.

Elvis liked women and when push came to shove he didn't want to get married at that time.

Yes,I agree.
But I also think that Elvis is was not already to get marry not even priscilla.

[Brian]

Yes,I agree.
But I also think that Elvis is was not already to get marry not even priscilla.

right, he wasn't ready to get married to Priscilla.

Elvis should have never married anyone.

[GIORGIA]

right, he wasn't ready to get married to Priscilla.

Elvis should have never married anyone.

Yes,I think this too,because for Me Elvis loves sooooooooooooooooo much the woman.

[KPM]

In hindsight it was a mistake to sign those contracts because after Blue Hawaii became a big hit all anybody wanted to do with Elvis was those types of films.

I think the Rainmaker was all Hal Wallis he produced the film and it was his decision to loan Elvis out to 20th Century FOX.
He simply didn't want Elvis to have the role.
If Hal Wallis told Parker Elvis' first role would've been the Rainmaker then it would have been that way.
I don't know why Elvis thought the Rainmaker was going to be his first role perhaps it was because he was asked to do a screen test.
It's also possible Hal Wallis told both Colonel and Elvis that The Rainmaker would be his first film and then simply changed his mind.

I'm not saying Colonel Parker had absolutely no role in this it's just that people blame him fully for all this and that's not the case.

If Hal Wallis or the other studio bosses wanted Elvis to have serious roles he would've gotten them.
I just think they deserve more of the blame than what they have gotten.

My point was though most fans think Colonel Parker told Elvis to accept Girl Happy and Harem Scarem while turning down all these great movies.
That wasn't the case Elvis had to do these movies or he would have been sued for breach of contract it was a common thing back then.In the Elvis on Tour interview he speaks of Hollywood's image of him being wrong and blames the system for him not getting better roles.

I understand this-but what was Parkers job-to negotiate contracts and to protect Elvis's interests. He negotiated the contracts but did not protect Elvis from the position he ended up in.
So whether Parker told Elvis to accept Girl Happy, or Harem Scarem is not the point-the point is the contracts Parker negotiated and recommended Elvis to sign-put Elvis in this position.
You are correct-if Elvis refused to do a certain picture he may have been sued for breach of contract-but Parkers negotiations on the original contracts put Elvis in this position.
As far as the Rainmaker-I do not think Elvis would have continued to believe that the Rainmaker was to be his first role if someone had not led him to believe this. (as I have pointed out several times)
Parker was always near when Elvis was interviewed-and obviously from the recorded interviews he did not correct Elvis on his Rainmaker statement.
I know Elvis would look to the Col. when he was asked a question he was unsure of-and it did not happen in this instance. So as I said no matter how you look at it Parker had a huge role in the movie careers direction whether in being out foxed by Wallis or just looking for the big paydays that he knew the musicals would bring.

[Brian]

I understand this-but what was Parkers job-to negotiate contracts and to protect Elvis's interests. He negotiated the contracts but did not protect Elvis from the position he ended up in.
So whether Parker told Elvis to accept Girl Happy, or Harem Scarem is not the point-the point is the contracts Parker negotiated and recommended Elvis to sign-put Elvis in this position.
You are correct-if Elvis refused to do a certain picture he may have been sued for breach of contract-but Parkers negotiations on the original contracts put Elvis in this position.
As far as the Rainmaker-I do not think Elvis would have continued to believe that the Rainmaker was to be his first role if someone had not led him to believe this. (as I have pointed out several times)
Parker was always near when Elvis was interviewed-and obviously from the recorded interviews he did not correct Elvis on his Rainmaker statement.
I know Elvis would look to the Col. when he was asked a question he was unsure of-and it did not happen in this instance. So as I said no matter how you look at it Parker had a huge role in the movie careers direction whether in being out foxed by Wallis or just looking for the big paydays that he knew the musicals would bring.

I'm not talking about the begining

I think both Elvis and Colonel Parker got stuck in the movies unintentionally
Elvis wanted to be a movie star and the well known respected movie producer Hal Wallis came along and offered him a contract so Parker and signed it.

Love me Tender, Loving You, Jailhouse Rock, King Creole, Gi Blues, Blue Hawaii, Follow that Dream and Kid Galahad were all decent films

After Blue Hawaii became such a huge success all the other producers wanted to duplicate that success so from 1964-1968 Elvis made the majority of his bad films. only Viva Las Vegas and maybe Roustabout were the only decent one's made during that time in my opinion.

Colonel Parker and Elvis had no way of knowing that Blue Hawaii would be such a success that all the Hollywood studios would completely stop trying to come up with quality vehicles for himself.

If Blue Hawaii hadn't of been such a box office smash Elvis movie career probably would of followed a different path.

I think the last 4 films Elvis made were decent he didn't sing any
embarrasing songs and their seemed to be more variety in the scripts.

Trouble with Girls

Live a little, Love a little

Change of Habit

Charro


It's just that those mid 60's films made to cash in on Blue Hawaii were so bad they damaged Elvis' career as a singer and any hope of him being a serious actor.

I think the producers deserve more blame because they didn't care about Elvis artistically.

So they should share more of the blame for the demise of Elvis' film career along with Elvis and Colonel Parker.

[debtdbruno]

Agree there Brian

[Neverending]

After Blue Hawaii became such a huge success all the other producers wanted to duplicate that success so from 1964-1968 Elvis made the majority of his bad films. only Viva Las Vegas and maybe Roustabout were the only decent one's made during that time in my opinion.

Colonel Parker and Elvis had no way of knowing that Blue Hawaii would be such a success that all the Hollywood studios would completely stop trying to come up with quality vehicles for himself.

If Blue Hawaii hadn't of been such a box office smash Elvis movie career probably would of followed a different path.

It's just that those mid 60's films made to cash in on Blue Hawaii were so bad they damaged Elvis' career as a singer and any hope of him being a serious actor.

I think the producers deserve more blame because they didn't care about Elvis artistically.

So they should share more of the blame for the demise of Elvis' film career along with Elvis and Colonel Parker.

That's absolut right.
Why they should change something what brings in a lot of money? And if you look at the movies under aspect of time - this was the kind of films which the public like a lot - they enjoyed the movies because of fun and music - like films with R. Hudson/D. Day or other teenie-idols like Fabian or the boy-group "The Monkeys" or "Herman Hermits" ect.

True is that one of Elvis biggest wish was to be a great actor. But at the 60's was not the right time to do so. He had so much talent in a lot of things - maybe in filming he was underestimate of the producers - because his films were always a boxcash-guarantee.

About marriage:
If you take a look back - whenever come up rumors of engagements in the media - you can see it was the end of the relationship. It was this way with June Juanico and also with Ann Magret.

with Priscilla: I believe both of them had different opinions how a marriage has to be. And if there is no common so it's a question of time the marriage failed.

I think Elvis was always looking for somebody he could trust, who loved
him as the person he was, not for being a Superstar, somebody to share his thoughts and his interests and this is difficult in a normal life. How difficult it must be when you are someone like Elvis. Always asking yourself questions if the woman love you as the human you are or she love the rich Superstar. And I think he never wasn't sure by this.

He growed up in culturally-rooted forms of the south and this characterise his whole life, his mind and thinking how has to be the "right woman" for him.

[beckelvis]

I personally think Elvis and Ann were very well suited to each other but that the Colonel interfered in their relationship.

I don't think she is phoney or makes out that there was more to their relationship than there actually was....I think she is just very private and uncomfortable talking about her life and Elvis.

Diane

totally agree