14 and pregnant

[KPM]

three more possible scenario's to come out of this had it happened.

1. Since Elvis was a teen idol with a good majority of his fanbase being teenagers him getting married in 1960 would possibly turn some teenage girl fans off of him they fantasized about being married to him themselves.
Colonel Parker was always concerned about Elvis getting married early on in his career to Anita Wood because he felt it would hurt his popularity with female fans.
I could definately see this happening if he married Priscilla in 1960. 2. Hal Wallis and Colonel Parker began to build Elvis career in movies around films that were aimed at a family audience something that people of all ages could enjoy mom, dad, teenagers, little kids etc.
Had this whole scandal erupted I don't see Blue Hawaii and Gi Blues being the big box office blockbusters they were.
Elvis was more accepted by the older generation after he got out of the army than when he went in if he was involved in a scandal like that all that would've never happened.

3. If Elvis career was severly damaged by the scandal I see Colonel Parker quitting as Elvis manager and going with another client.

And as everyone saw in 1967 when he married Priscilla he still had teenage girls as fans, he still had adult female fans many were happy for him.
Brian Epstein had a similar worry for John Lennon and Paul McCartney- both who were married fairly quickly after the Beatles hit big-and it was also found to not be the reality of the situation.
As far as the movies not being big-maybe not-once again it depends on how it would have been handled.
As far as Parker quitting as manager-he once said (paraphrasing)
"Someone like Presley comes along only once every generation"
SO unless Elvis had actually killed someone and was caught red handed I really think Parker quitting was not in the cards.

JLLewis's 5th wife (20 something years younger than him) was found dead in his bed a couple months after they married.
Suicide was the speculation and JLee said they had their share of arguments but he did not think she would have killed herself.
Huge investigation, huge inquiry and Jerry Lee survived this also-even though he himself was heavily into prescription meds and some thought he had been a factor in her habit.
I see what you are thinking-just do not think it would have been as bleak and cut and dry as you do. I think Colonels snowman abillity and Elvis's natural charisma would have weathered this if handled correctly.

Now if he did not marry her, and the parents made an all out effort to get Elvis that would have been hard to combat. But truthfully do you think thats how it would have been handled? I just do not.

[Brian]

And as everyone saw in 1967 when he married Priscilla he still had teenage girls as fans, he still had adult female fans many were happy for him.
Brian Epstein had a similar worry for John Lennon and Paul McCartney- both who were married fairly quickly after the Beatles hit big-and it was also found to not be the reality of the situation.
As far as the movies not being big-maybe not-once again it depends on how it would have been handled.
As far as Parker quitting as manager-he once said (paraphrasing)
"Someone like Presley comes along only once every generation"
SO unless Elvis had actually killed someone and was caught red handed I really think Parker quitting was not in the cards.

JLLewis's 5th wife (20 something years younger than him) was found dead in his bed a couple months after they married.
Suicide was the speculation and JLee said they had their share of arguments but he did not think she would have killed herself.
Huge investigation, huge inquiry and Jerry Lee survived this also-even though he himself was heavily into prescription meds and some thought he had been a factor in her habit.
I see what you are thinking-just do not think it would have been as bleak and cut and dry as you do. I think Colonels snowman abillity and Elvis's natural charisma would have weathered this if handled correctly.

Now if he did not marry her, and the parents made an all out effort to get Elvis that would have been hard to combat. But truthfully do you think thats how it would have been handled? I just do not.

I just don't think Elvis could've got away unphased over a sex scandal with an underage girl especially back in the late 50's and early 60's.
I think it would've been a huge scandal.
I think the Colonel would've attempted to keep it quiet but as I said the media has a way of finding things out like that.
I think it would've been a possibility that Elvis wouldn't of wanted to marry Priscilla and her parents could've been really pissed off at Elvis for even getting their daughter pregnant and instead of wanting him to marry her they might've wanted him to be punished for what he had done.
meaning that he would face criminal prosecution.

I meant the Colonel would only drop Elvis if his career went totally down the drain and he was no longer making any money thus he would've no longer been an asset to the Colonel.
Had that happened I can definately see Colonel Parker dropping Elvis and finding another client.

[The King's Queen]

Money would have been offered and taken.....

Diane

That would have been a sure thing Diane!

You see where we differ in outlook is I truely see Elvis as a huge step above most other entertainers with the charisma factor-and I think that makes all the difference in how things would have ended up.
I'll point out that because of his hip shaking he was not expected to last 2 years by all those who said they knew the public and the publics reaction to his type of entertaining. That was well over 50 years ago......Jackie Gleason said "Frankly I tell you he can not last"
He was attacked from nearly all the establishment, religious leaders, politicians......he survived. His fans are the most loyal in the world-I see that as a step above most other entertainers and it would have made the difference IMO but its just MO.

Great post KPM! I'm in total agreement with you!!

[KPM]

I just don't think Elvis could've got away unphased over a sex scandal with an underage girl especially back in the late 50's and early 60's.
I think it would've been a huge scandal.
I think the Colonel would've attempted to keep it quiet but as I said the media has a way of finding things out like that.
I think it would've been a possibility that Elvis wouldn't of wanted to marry Priscilla and her parents could've been really pissed off at Elvis for even getting their daughter pregnant and instead of wanting him to marry her they might've wanted him to be punished for what he had done.
meaning that he would face criminal prosecution.

I meant the Colonel would only drop Elvis if his career went totally down the drain and he was no longer making any money thus he would've no longer been an asset to the Colonel.
Had that happened I can definately see Colonel Parker dropping Elvis and finding another client.

Well Brian we once again just see this very differently. I have said the outcome of such a thing would be"depending on how it was handled"
I can not see Elvis not marrying her if he knew it had come out in the press-I can not see her parents refusing to allow them to marry-since it would mean an out of wedlock birth for their daughter. I can not see Priscilla jumping at the chance to marry him if she were pregnant.
No sense in beating this any further we have both stated our cases.

[The King's Queen]

Well Brian we once again just see this very differently. I have said the outcome of such a thing would be"depending on how it was handled"
I can not see Elvis not marrying her if he knew it had come out in the press-I can not see her parents refusing to allow them to marry-since it would mean an out of wedlock birth for their daughter. I can not see Priscilla jumping at the chance to marry him if she were pregnant.
No sense in beating this any further we have both stated our cases.

You have dropped the gavel and the case is closed! lol...I agree with you Ken. Great post!

[Brian]

You have dropped the gavel and the case is closed! lol...I agree with you Ken. Great post!

What is so funny?

[The King's Queen]

What is so funny?

His statement. What else could it be?

[Brian]

His statement. What else could it be?

His statement wasn't funny.

some people on this board have the giggles.

[TotallyInsane]

His statement wasn't funny.

some people on this board have the giggles.

Some people on this board need the giggles.

[Pacerstar]

Some people on this board need the giggles.

Good one!

[Donut]

I noticed a few of them were allegedly concieved when their mothers were teenagers and Elvis was in Germany.

I seem to recall that in 'Last train to Memphis' Guralnik wrote one girl supposedly got pregnant by him in Germany. Anyone remembers this and what the name of that girl was?