Last edited by Brian; 08-31-2009 at 10:34 PM.
Well, I did for a while, (not for very long, I sprained my wrist then other things happened) and so did my son, that's two.
Two of my friends from AEK, one was a 2nd or 3rd Dan Blackbelt (he wouldn't talk about it), his two daughters were Blackbelts, too, I think 1st Dan. One of his daughters was named after Elvis.
Then there was another friend of mine, an Aussie, from AEK, too, plus another from The States.
So, somehow or other, the majority of my friends on AEK, including their children, were involved in Martial Arts because of Elvis (and top people, too).
Furthermore, pity I can't get into the archives to post what they wrote about Elvis. They were successful people, and just loved the ground that Elvis walked on, because he influenced their lives for the better in other ways too, musically wise, they becoming successful musicians because of their love of Elvis' music, as well as Elvis.
did the daughters really get into because of Elvis or was it because of their parents.
The parents as you say got into because of Elvis.
If you were to ask people who weren't Elvis fans they'd probably all say no
I meant ask 100 people at random
So I don't think Elvis influence on Karate is enough to warrant an induction into the Karate HoF.
I'd still say 96% of the people practing martial arts weren't influenced by Elvis.
Last edited by Brian; 09-01-2009 at 12:24 AM.
From my experience of Karate, there are many elements e.g. Mental Growth, Kata's and the physicality of the sport. Do you suppose that the person training Elvis wasn't blinded by his celebrity?
Last edited by Jumpsuit Junkie; 09-01-2009 at 03:57 AM.
the 74 footage was just a shot at one day. Doesn't mean or say anything if he was good or not. He was not sharp that day for whatever reason
Brain. Elvis studied the arts for 15 years. Do you think mabye he did learn something and he became pretty good at the art?
You do not get to become a black blet just like that.
And yes his status is one reason for the hall of fame to take him in. But also Elvis did influence a lot of people end he exposed karate on stage en movies and tv specials and clothing so it is fair to give him some credit. And to put him in the hall of fame.
But that is just my personel opinion. I studied Karate also. Just for one year. Found it very rich. Had to stop because of my knee .
about it and used some of it in his shows because he was interested in it
and because he enjoyed it. If Elvis had tried to actively recruit people to
Karate, IMO, he would have been vastly susscessful!
"talk about the good times"
You know it-from your.....point ...of view.
ANNNND the important thing in the realm of "The Martial Arts Hall of Fame" is not what you and I think about it-it was what they and their members who have to be fairly learned on the subject of Martial Arts and its widespread acceptance and growth around the world.
Hypothetical 100 people of today 2009-but we are not talking 2009 we are talking early 60s where average people had virtually no knowledge of karate, or martial arts-Elvis was using it in his movies, its mentioned in Roustabout by the college boy........before this it was used I believe 1st in a 1940s Jimmy Cagney movie with Cagney as a FBI secret agent- thats the first time I recall it used in a film. But Cagney had no real skill-he did not mention it in interviews, he did not practice it on the sets of films, he did not attend karate exhibitions. Elvis did all these things- its funny you read books and 2 things mentioned very often are Elvis's love of music and karate. Red and Sonny West have both acknowledged this.
As I said its not what you and I think which puts someone into any hall of fame for whatever reason-the people who run the organizations and their members make those calls-and thats how it should be.
Work in Progress!
I recall statements by the fight trainer who trained him for Kid Galahad, Mushy Callahan,-he had trained Kirk Douglas, Burt Lancaster, John Wayne, and several other stars for fight pictures-he said Elvis was the best of the lot-quick hands, good balance and he also mentioned Elvis knew karate and that made a huge difference.
Callahan had been a pro boxer and was a champion in the 30s I think-he became a celebrity trainer after his career was finished.
Work in Progress!
Elvis didn't influence that many people to get into Karate.
some Elvis fans tried it because of him but that's it many of them probably didn't even stick with it for very long.
serious martial artists students were not influenced by Elvis neither were non fans and I'd say most Elvis fans didn't practice karate.
The Hall of fame put him in there to boost it's profile.