Heart Of Gold

[Captain Elwood David]

Originally posted by lonniebealestreet@Apr 23 2004, 05:10 AM
It's too bad that she is in a position to have to part with it, if that is the case.  Surely no one else in the world could appreciate that cross as much as she...I could make a case for myself though!

Agreed.

In theory, there are many pieces out there (jewelry) that EP gave away over the years to others not only his entourage / immediate circles. Complete strangers, etc..

Have only ever come across but a handfull of such items. It would appear that many do indeed hold onto them.

I would be in the same category of those that would never part with such things.


- Capt. "EL."

[Stefan Kock]

Capt. "El" ~ on this same subject. I recall hearing a storry about the fact that Elvis gave away his TCB ring at the end of the Baltimore May 29th 1977 concert. The storry said that the woman who had the ring was persuaded to give it back to Elvis by some of his bodyguards. According to the article she gave the ring to the bodyguards and received a "thank you" note from Elvis shortly before his death.


Do you happen to know if this storry is true (the ring, the note), because, as far as I know, I haven?t seen any pictures of Elvis after this Baltimore show with his TCB ring. And also, where is the ring now? At Graceland??

Many thanks if you can shed some light on this

[Lonniebealestreet]

The ring is on display at Graceland now and has been for quite some time, as far as I know.

I believe Elvis wore the ring in Omaha, did he not?

The story still could be true though.

[Stefan Kock]

Bobby, now you?ve done it Now I have to check every available picture from Omaha and watch the show on VCD again (which is no problem as this is, together with the Rapid City one, one of my most watched VCD?s)

I can?t recall seeing the TCB ring though during that performance. The story (don?t remember where I read it) has wondered me ever since the first time. According to the bodyguards Elvis didn?t knew what he gave away and would be very gratefull if he could get it back. After some persuading from the bodyguards she gave the ring to them without even knowing for sure that they were indeed true bodyguards of Elvis.......

[Captain Elwood David]

Originally posted by stefan kock@Apr 24 2004, 04:50 PM
I recall hearing a storry about the fact that Elvis gave away his TCB ring at the end of the Baltimore May 29th 1977 concert. The storry said that the woman who had the ring was persuaded to give it back to Elvis by some of his bodyguards. According to the article she gave the ring to the bodyguards and received a "thank you" note from Elvis shortly before his death.


Do you happen to know if this storry is true (the ring, the note), because, as far as I know, I haven?t seen any pictures of Elvis after this Baltimore show with his TCB ring. And also, where is the ring now? At Graceland??

SK -

Have also heard the same. I believe the story is true, but have not gone so far as to confirm.

Any purported "Thank You" note is more than likely a "secretarial" signed piece; EP was just not in the habit of writing at that point.

Had I been in her shoes (if the story is true), I would have only returned the ring to EP himself ........ and told any of the MM to go take a hike. In all likelyhood EP would have simply let her keep it; not EP's style to ask for something back that he gave away.

The TCB ring is definitely @ Graceland.

A prototype (or 1st version) of the ring (without onyx & some other slight differences) was given to JD Sumner (this according to JD himself). Wound up in private hands later. The jeweler also has a prototype of it - the one he used to submit to Elvis for his initial approval prior to designing the ring. They are the only "multiple originals" (if you want to call them that) that exist of this particular ring. There have been a number of others to surface on the bogus market.

EP can be seen wearing the TCB ring again after May of '77, including the EIC venues.


- Capt. "EL."

[Lonniebealestreet]

Speaking of different rings, this one on Elvis's right hand is not ringing a bell with me. Anyone know of it? Peter posted this pic in another thread.



BTW Lowell Hays says that the TCB ring actually has black jade on it, which he chose for its strength. Graceland calls it onyx, but Mr. Hays would know.

It seems like I've seen a couple different rings besides the TCB ring which Elvis had, that had "TCB" on them. But I don't think either of the ones I've seen resembles the TCB ring much at all, so I don't guess I have seen the one you're speaking of, Capt. El. (It would be funny if the one in the picture was it.)

[Captain Elwood David]

Originally posted by lonniebealestreet+Apr 25 2004, 07:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lonniebealestreet &#064; Apr 25 2004, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Speaking of different rings, this one on Elvis&#39;s right hand is not ringing a bell with me.&nbsp; Anyone know of it?[/b]

It is more than likely in private hands somewhere. Very hard to make out the details of pieces from pics. in general. Graceland doesn&#39;t have many EP rings left. EP himself gave most away.

Originally posted by lonniebealestreet@Apr 25 2004, 07:48 AM
BTW Lowell Hays says that the TCB ring actually has black jade on it, which he chose for its strength.&nbsp; Graceland calls it onyx, but Mr. Hays would know.

I believe you are correct. Good clarification. Hays would know.

Graceland, believe or not, is not always correct. FACT.

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It is / was @ a Museum in Tennessee. Have never seen pics. of E wearing, to date. There are many genuine items out there with no pics. of EP with. Photos with are just icing on the cake.


- Capt. "EL."

[Stefan Kock]

Capt "El". ~ thanks for this clarification Never noticed the TCB ring at the EIC venues. Strange isn?t it that one can overlook this kind of things If she indeed received a thank you note there?s always a slight possibility that Elvis himself signed it, istn?t there. Maby because he felt obligated to the woman because she didn?t have to give back the ring in the first place.

Kind regards,
Stefan

[Captain Elwood David]

Originally posted by stefan kock@Apr 25 2004, 10:55 AM
If she indeed received a thank you note there?s always a slight possibility that Elvis himself signed it, istn?t there.

If there is one thing that I&#39;ve learned from my "collecting" endeavors, it is .......

...... anything is possible.

I&#39;d like to think that EP took the time to write the "Thank You" himself, but I do have my doubts - to be honest.


- Capt. "EL."

[JohanD]

Originally posted by stefan kock@Apr 22 2004, 09:54 PM
Thanx for posting that article JohanD

Did the magazine say at which one of the Monroe concerts it happend??

The lady in the aricle says that it was " the last night" of Elvis performances in Monroe. She did not mention any date tough...

[Stefan Kock]

Then the date is set on March 8th 1974

Going once, going twice, ....... SOLD