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    The Day the Music Died

    february 3 2009 will mark the 50th anniversary of tragic plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, on February 3, 1959, the crash killed three American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J. P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson, as well as the pilot........i if you recall the buddy holly song peggy sue......well ki found her website...heres the linkhttp://www.peggysueonline.com/
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    Wow, 50 years ago! Such a sad day...
    Thanks, for the link.

    franny

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    Quote Originally Posted by franny View Post
    Wow, 50 years ago! Such a sad day...
    Thanks, for the link.

    franny
    ur welcome........yep 50 years already
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    Peggy sue was here in Australia last year.

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    RIP...

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    A very sad day for the music

    RIP

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_lGx3UPpMw&feature=related"]YouTube - The Plane Crash of 1959 the day music died[/ame]
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    Who knows how the music field had developed without this tragic loss.
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    The world lost a lot that sad day!

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    A very sad day indeed.

    Three fine musicians lost at such an early age...makes you wonder "what might have been."

    RIP Buddy, J.P. and Ritchie....we miss you.


    P.S. We'll have a tribute segment to these legends during our Tuesday program here on TCB Radio.
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    Buddy would have rivaled Elvis and The Beatles in stature had he lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epmoodyblue View Post
    february 3 2009 will mark the 50th anniversary of tragic plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, on February 3, 1959, the crash killed three American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J. P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson, as well as the pilot........i if you recall the buddy holly song peggy sue......well ki found her website...heres the linkhttp://www.peggysueonline.com/
    I took a look at the link and Peggy Sue and Buddy Holly's widow Maria Holly were in legal battle..since Maria states...actually I will just post it lol

    franny

    Recent Editorial: Lawsuit threat against Peggy Sue is unfair
    Lubbock Avalanche-Journal / Thursday, January 24, 2008

    MARIA ELENA HOLLY'S threat of a lawsuit against Peggy Sue Gerron for her book about Buddy Holly is only the latest mean-spirited act by the rock 'n' roll legend's widow.
    Once again, Ms. Holly hides behind the claim she is trying to protect the name, image and reputation of Buddy Holly. Once again, we don't believe her.
    She claims Ms. Gerron, who is the namesake of the hit song "Peggy Sue," lied in her book "Whatever Happened to Peggy Sue?" about having a friendship with Buddy Holly, according to a story by Associated Press reporter Betsy Blaney.
    A letter from Ms. Holly's attorney to the publisher of Ms. Gerron's book said confusion and tarnishment of Buddy Holly's name and Ms. Holly's reputation would likely result from the book.
    Ms. Holly's last sham of protecting her husband's image came last year when she told Civic Lubbock it could no longer use the names of the Buddy Holly Terrace and the Buddy Holly Walk of Fame without paying a fee.
    It was selfish and greedy. Lubbock had paid a great honor to Mr. Holly with the namings, and the notion she was trying to protect her husband's name was ridiculous.
    Travis Holley, the rock 'n' roll star's brother, wrote a letter to the A-J saying he and other family members were proud and honored by the use of Mr. Holly's name by the city. Anyone who sincerely cared would feel the same way.
    We wrote on June 18 we would respect her more if she dropped the pretense she was trying to protect the name of her late husband and admitted she was trying to cash in for all the money she can get.
    We wonder what would happen if the publisher of Ms. Gerron's book offered to give Ms. Holly a cut of the royalties. We suspect the book suddenly would be deemed to be quite acceptable.
    In any case, the threat of a frivolous lawsuit is empty. Unauthorized biographies are a common thing in the world of celebrities. Even when the celebrities are viciously attacked - and that certainly is not the case with Ms. Gerron's book - the books are published.
    We hope Buddy Holly's name will fall into public domain under the Texas Property Code next year, which will be 50 years after his death. It would be a happy day for many of us in Buddy Holly's hometown if Maria no longer had control of his name.

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    Interesting article Franny. I didn't know all that was going on in the background.

    Diane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Interesting article Franny. I didn't know all that was going on in the background.

    Diane
    Yes, I found it interesting too Diane. I had no idea about all that, either..

    franny

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    Here is Buddy's bag found around the crash site.Attachment 29935
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    Buddy would have rivaled Elvis and The Beatles in stature had he lived.
    You must be kidding.
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    A very very sad day for the music

    Some of you all never been down South too much...
    I'm gonna tell you a little story, so you'll understand where I'm talking about

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    Yes I remember that sad day when this tragedy happened. I bought the recording Three Stars, which was a lovely tribute to them.

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    I thought this was interesting:

    THE ANNOTATED AMERICAN PIE

    (What the song is talkin' about!)
    By Rich Kulawiec
    The entire song is a tribute to Buddy Holly and a commentary on how rock and roll changed in the years since his death. McLean seems to be lamenting the lack of "danceable" music in rock and roll and (in part) attributing that lack to the absence of Buddy Holly et. al. (Verse 1)
    A long, long time ago...

    "American Pie" reached #1 in the US in 1972, but the album containing it was released in 1971. Buddy Holly died in 1959.

    I can still remember how
    That music used to make me smile.
    And I knew if I had my chance,
    That I could make those people dance,
    And maybe they'd be happy for a while


    One of early rock and roll's functions was to provide dance music for various social events. McLean recalls his desire to become a musician playing that sort of music.

    But February made me shiver,

    Buddy Holly died on February 3, 1959 in a plane crash in Iowa during a snowstorm.The news came to most of the world on the morning of February 3, which is why it's known as The Day The Music Died.

    With every paper I'd deliver,

    Don McLean's only job besides being a full-time singer-songwriter was being a paperboy.

    Bad news on the doorstep...
    I couldn't take one more step.
    I can't remember if I cried
    When I read about his widowed bride


    Holly's recent bride, Maria Elena, was pregnant when the crash took place; she had a miscarriage shortly afterward.
    But something touched me deep inside,
    The day the music died.

    The same plane crash that killed Buddy Holly also took the lives of Richie Valens ("La Bamba") and The Big Bopper ("Chantilly Lace"). Since all three were so prominent at the time, February 3, 1959 became known as "The Day The Music Died".


    So...
    (Refrain)

    Bye bye Miss American Pie,

    Miss American Pie *is* rock and roll music. Don McLean dated a Miss America candidate during the pageant. (unconfirmed)

    Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
    Them good ole boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
    Singing "This'll be the day that I die,
    This'll be the day that I die."


    One of Holly's hits was "That'll be the Day"; the chorus contains the line "That'll be the day that I die"

    VERSE TWO

    Did you write the book of love,

    "The Book of Love" by the Monotones; hit in 1958.

    And do you have faith in God above,
    If the Bible tells you so?


    In 1955, Don Cornell did a song entitled "The Bible Tells Me So". Rick Schubert pointed this out, and mentioned that he hadn't heard the song, so it was kinda difficult to tell if it was what McLean was referencing. Dave Tutelman tells me that this particular song wasn't exactly a gem of rock 'n roll.

    There's also an old Sunday School song which goes: "Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so" (Stephen Joseph Smith tells me that Bartlett's gives the source of this as "The Love of Jesus", by Anna Bartlett Warner, 1858.)

    Now do you believe in rock 'n roll?

    The Lovin' Spoonful had a hit in 1965 with John Sebastian's "Do you Believe in Magic?". The song has the lines: "Do you believe in magic/it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock and roll."

    Can music save your mortal soul?
    And can you teach me how to dance real slow?


    Dancing slow was an important part of early rock and roll dance events -- but declined in importance through the 60's as things like psychedelia and the 10-minute guitar solo gained prominence.

    Well I know you're in love with him
    'Cause I saw you dancing in the gym


    Slowdancing COULD just be dancing, or it could be vertical "making out". It wasn't hard to watch a couple slow-dancing and figure out whether they had some sort of relationship, if you knew anything about slow dancing. So just the fact they were dancing didn't tell you anything, but if "I saw you dancing in the gym" I could tell from watching whether there was anything between you (figuratively :-). (Thanks to Dave Tutelman for this note.)
    You both kicked off your shoes

    A reference to the beloved "sock hop".(Leather-soled street shoes tear up wooden basketball floors, and rubber-soled sneakers grip too much for dance moves, so dancers had to take off their shoes.)

    Man, I dig those rhythm 'n' blues

    Some history. Before the popularity of rock and roll, music, like much else in the U. S., was highly segregated. The popular music of black performers for largely black audiences was called, first, "race music", later softened to rhythm and blues. In the early 50s, as they were exposed to it through radio personalities such as Allan Freed, white teenagers began listening, too. Starting around 1954, a number of songs from the rhythm and blues charts began appearing on the overall popular charts as well, but usually in cover versions by established white artists, (e. g. "Shake Rattle and Roll", Joe Turner, covered by Bill Haley; "Sh-Boom", the Chords, covered by the Crew-Cuts; "Sincerely", the Moonglows, covered by the Mc Guire Sisters; Tweedle Dee, LaVerne Baker, covered by Georgia Gibbs). By 1955, some of the rhythm and blues artists, like Fats Domino and Little Richard were able to get records on the overall pop charts. In 1956 Sun records added elements of country and western to produce the kind of rock and roll tradition that produced Buddy Holly. (Thanks to Barry Schlesinger for this historical note. ---Rsk)
    I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
    With a pink carnation and a pickup truck


    "A White Sport Coat (And a Pink Carnation)", was a hit for Marty Robbins in 1957. The pickup truck has endured as a symbol of sexual independence and potency, especially in a Texas context. (Also, Jimmy Buffet does a song about "a white sport coat and a pink crustacean".

    But I knew that I was out of luck
    The day the music died
    I started singing...


    Refrain

    VERSE THREE


    Now for ten years we've been on our own

    McLean was writing this song in the late 60's, about ten years after the crash.

    And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

    It's unclear who the "rolling stone" is supposed to be. It could be Dylan, since "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) was his first major hit; and since he was busy writing songs extolling the virtues of simple love, family and contentment while staying at home (he didn't tour from '66 to '74) and raking in the royalties. This was quite a change from the earlier, angrier Dylan.

    The "rolling stone" could also be Elvis, although I don't think he'd started to pork out by the late sixties. It could refer to rock and rollers in general, and the changes that had taken place in the business in the 60's, especially the huge amounts of cash some of them were beginning to make, and the relative stagnation that entered the music at the same time.

    Or, perhaps it's a reference to the stagnation in rock and roll.

    Or, finally, it could refer to the Rolling Stones themselves; a lot of musicians were angry at the Stones for "selling out". Howard Landman points out that John Foxx of Ultravox was sufficiently miffed to write a song titled "Life At Rainbow's End (For All The Tax Exiles On Main Street)". The Stones at one point became citizens of some other country merely to save taxes.

    But that's not how it used to be
    When the jester sang for the King and Queen


    The jester is Bob Dylan, as will become clear later. There are several interpretations of king and queen: some think that Elvis Presley is the king, which seems pretty obvious. The queen is said to be either Connie Francis or Little Richard. But see the next note.

    An alternate interpretation is that this refers to the Kennedys -- the king and queen of "Camelot" -who were present at a Washington DC civil rights rally featuring Martin Luther King. (There's a recording of Dylan performing at this rally.)

    In a coat he borrowed from James Dean


    In the movie "Rebel Without a Cause", James Dean has a red windbreaker that holds symbolic meaning throughout the film (see note at end of Annotated American Pie). In one particularly intense scene, Dean lends his coat to a guy who is shot and killed; Dean's father arrives, sees the coat on the dead man, thinks it's Dean, and loses it. On the cover of "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan", Dylan is wearing just such as red windbreaker, and is posed in a street scene similar to one shown in a well-known picture of James Dean. Bob Dylan played a command performance for the Queen and Prince Consort of England. He was *not* properly attired, so perhaps this is a reference to his apparel.

    And a voice that came from you and me

    Bob Dylan's roots are in American folk music, with people like Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie. Folk music is by definition the music of the masses, hence the "...came from you and me".

    Oh, and while the King was looking down
    The jester stole his thorny crown

    This could be a reference to Elvis's decline and Dylan's ascendance. (i.e. Presley is looking down from a height as Dylan takes his place.) The thorny crown might be a reference to the price of fame. Dylan has said that he wanted to be as famous as Elvis, one of his early idols.

    The courtroom was adjourned,
    No verdict was returned.


    This could be the trial of the Chicago Seven, but McLean seems to be talking about music, not politics at this point in the song. With that in mind, perhaps he meant that the arguments between Dylan and Elvis fans over who was better just couldn't be settled.

    And while Lennon read a book on Marx,

    Literally, John Lennon reading about Karl Marx; figuratively, the introduction of radical politics into the music of the Beatles. (Of course, he could be referring to Groucho Marx, but that doesn't seem quite consistent with McLean's overall tone. On the other hand, some of the wordplay in Lennon's lyrics and books is reminiscint of Groucho.) The "Marx-Lennon" wordplay has also been used by others, most notably the Firesign Theatre on the cover of their album "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All?". Also, a famous French witticism was "Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho."; "I'm a Marxist of the Groucho variety".

    It's also a pun on "Lenin".

    The quartet practiced in the park

    There are two schools of thought about this; the obvious one is the Beatles playing in Shea Stadium, but note that the previous line has John Lennon *doing something else at the same time*. This tends to support the theory that this is a reference to the Weavers, who were blacklisted during the McCarthy era. McLean had become friends with Lee Hays of the Weavers in the early 60's while performing in coffeehouses and clubs in upstate New York and New York City. He was also well-acquainted with Pete Seeger; in fact, McLean, Seeger, and others took a trip on the Hudson river singing anti-pollution songs at one point. Seeger's LP "God Bless the Grass" contains many of these songs.

    And we sang dirges in the dark

    A "dirge" is a funeral or mourning song, so perhaps this is meant literally...or, perhaps, this is a reference to some of the new "art rock" groups which played long pieces not meant for dancing.

    The day the music died.
    We were singing...


    Refrain
    VERSE FOUR

    Helter Skelter in a summer swelter

    "Helter Skelter" is a Beatles song which appears on the "white" album. Charles Manson, claiming to have been "inspired" by the song (through which he thought God and/or the devil were taking to him) led his followers in the Tate-LaBianca murders. Is "summer swelter" a reference to the "Summer of Love" or perhaps to the "long hot summer" of Watts?

    The birds flew off with the fallout shelter
    Eight miles high and falling fast


    The Byrd's "Eight Miles High" was on their late 1966 release "Fifth Dimension". It was one of the first records to be widely banned because of supposedly drug-oriented lyrics.

    It landed foul on the grass.

    One of the Byrds was busted for possession of marijuana.

    The players tried for a forward pass

    Obviously a football metaphor, but about what? It could be the Rolling Stones, i.e. they were waiting for an opening which really didn't happen until the Beatles broke up.

    With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

    On July 29, 1966, Dylan crashed his Triumph 55 motorcycle while riding near his home in Woodstock, New York. He spent nine months in seclusion while recuperating from the accident.

    Now the halftime air was sweet perfume

    Drugs, man.

    Well, now, wait a minute; that's probably too obvious. It's possible that this line and the next few refer to the 1968 Democratic National Convention. The "sweet perfume" is probably tear gas.

    While sergeants played a marching tune

    Following from the thought above, the sergeants would be the Chicago Police and the Illinois National Guard, who marched the protestors out of the park and into jail.

    Alternatively, this could refer to the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". Or, perhaps McLean refers to the Beatles' music in general as "marching" because it's not music for dancing. Or, finally, the "marching tune" could be the draft.

    We all got up to dance
    Oh, but we never got the chance


    The Beatles' 1966 Candlestick Park concert only lasted 35 minutes. Or, following on from the previous comment, perhaps he meant that there wasn't any music to dance to.

    'Cause the players tried to take the field,
    The marching band refused to yield.


    Some folks think this refers to either the 1968 Deomcratic Convention or Kent State; following on from the Chicago reference above, this could be another comment on protests. But perhaps the players are the protestors at Kent State, and the marching band the Ohio National Guard...

    This could be a reference to the dominance of the Beatles on the rock and roll scene. For instance, the Beach Boys released "Pet Sounds" in 1966 -- an album which featured some of the same sort of studio and electronic experimentation as "Sgt. Pepper" (1967) -- but the album sold poorly.

    This might also be a comment about how the dominance of the Beatles in the rock world led to more "pop art" music, leading in turn to a dearth of traditional rock and roll.

    Or finally, this might be a comment which follows up on the earlier reference to the draft: the government/military-industrial-complex establishment refused to accede to the demands of the peace movement.

    Do you recall what was revealed,
    The day the music died?
    We started singing


    Refrain
    VERSE FIVE

    And there we were all in one place

    Woodstock.

    A generation lost in space

    Some people think this is a reference to the US space program, which it might be; but that seems a bit too literal. Perhaps this is a reference to "hippies", who were sometimes known as the "lost generation", partially because of their particularly acute alientation from their parents, and partially because of their presumed preoccupation with drugs. It could also be a reference to the awful TV show, "Lost in Space", whose title was sometimes used as a synonym for someone who was rather high...but I keep hoping that McLean had better taste. :-)

    With no time left to start again

    The "lost generation" spent too much time being stoned, and had wasted their lives? Or, perhaps, their preference for psychedelia had pushed rock and roll so far from Holly's music that it couldn't be retrieved.

    So come on Jack be nimble Jack be quick

    Probably a reference to Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones; "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was released in May, 1968.

    Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

    The Stones' Candlestick park concert?

    'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

    "Sympathy for the Devil", by the Stones -- seems to fit with some of the surrounding material.

    It's possible that this is a reference to the Grateful Dead's "Friend of the Devil". But I doubt it.

    An alternative interpretation of the last four lines is that they may refer to Jack Kennedy and his quick decisions during the Cuban Missile Crisis; the candlesticks/fire refer to ICBMs and nuclear war.

    And as I watched him on the stage
    My hands were clenched in fists of rage
    No angel born in hell
    Could break that Satan's spell


    While playing a concert at the Altamont Speedway in 1968, the Stones appointed members of the Hell's Angels to work security (on the advice of the Grateful Dead). In the darkness near the front of the stage, a young man named Meredith Hunter was beaten and stabbed to death -- by the Angels. Public outcry that the song "Sympathy for the Devil" had somehow incited the violence caused the Stones to drop the song from their show for the next six years. This incident is chronicled in the documentary film "Gimme Shelter".

    It's also possible that McLean views the Stones as being negatively inspired (remember, he had an extensive religious background) by virtue of "Sympathy for the Devil", "Their Satanic Majesties' Request" and so on. I find this a bit puzzling, since the early Stones recorded a lot of "roots" rock and roll, including Buddy Holly's "Not Fade Away".

    And as the flames climbed high into the night
    To light the sacrificial rite


    The most likely interpretation is that McLean is still talking about Altamont, and in particular Mick Jagger's prancing and posing while it was happening. The sacrifice is Meredith Hunter, and the bonfires around the area provide the flames.

    (It could be a reference to Jimi Hendrix burning his Stratocaster at the Monterey Pop Festival, but that was in 1967 and this verse is set in 1968.)

    I saw Satan laughing with delight

    If the above is correct, then Satan would be Jagger.

    The day the music died
    He was singing...


    Refrain
    VERSE SIX

    I met a girl who sang the blues

    Janis Joplin.

    And I asked her for some happy news
    But she just smiled and turned away


    Janis died of an accidental heroin overdose on October 4, 1970

    I went down to the sacred store
    Where I'd heard the music years before

    There are two interpretations of this: The "sacred store" was Bill Graham's Fillmore West, one of the great rock and roll venues of all time. Alternatively, this refers to record stores, and their longtime (then discontinued) practice of allowing customers to preview records in the store. (What year did the Fillmore West close?)

    It could also refer to record stores as "sacred" because this is where one goes to get "saved". (See above lyric "Can music save your mortal soul?")

    But the man there said the music wouldn't play

    Perhaps he means that nobody is interested in hearing Buddy Holly et.al.'s music? Or, as above, the discontinuation of the in-store listening booths.

    It's also possible that this line and the two before it refer to the closing of the Fillmore West in 19?? -- but I've been unable to verify that it was actually closed when this song was written.

    And in the streets the children screamed

    "Flower children" being beaten by police and National Guard troops; in particular, perhaps, the People's Park riots in Berkeley in 1969 and 1970.

    The lovers cried and the poets dreamed

    The trend towards psychedelic music in the 60's?

    But not a word was spoken
    The church bells all were broken


    It could be that the broken bells are the dead musicians: neither can produce any more music.

    And the three men I admire most The Father Son and Holy Ghost

    Holly, The Big Bopper, and Valens
    -- or -- Hank Williams, Presley and Holly
    -- or -- JFK, Martin Luther King, and Bobby Kennedy
    -- or -- the Catholic aspects of the deity. McLean had attended several Catholic schools.

    They caught the last train for the coast

    Could be a reference to wacky California religions, or could just be a way of saying that they've left (or died -- western culture often uses "went west" as a synonym for dying). Or, perhaps this is a reference to the famous "God is Dead" headline in the New York Times. David Cromwell has suggested that this is an oblique reference to a line in Procol Harum's "Whiter Shade of Pale", but I'm not sure I buy that; for one thing, all of McLean's musical references are to much older "roots" rock and roll songs; and secondly, I think it's more likely that this line shows up in both songs simply because it's a common cultural metaphor.

    The day the music died.


    This tends to support the conjecture that the "three men" were Holly, The Big Bopper, and Valens, since this says that they left on the day the music died.

    And they were singing...


    Refrain (2x)
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    I wonder if she would mind if I wrote a book about the fight that Buddy Holly and my father in-law had at school in Lubbock!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by franny View Post
    I took a look at the link and Peggy Sue and Buddy Holly's widow Maria Holly were in legal battle..since Maria states...actually I will just post it lol

    franny

    Recent Editorial: Lawsuit threat against Peggy Sue is unfair
    Lubbock Avalanche-Journal / Thursday, January 24, 2008

    MARIA ELENA HOLLY'S threat of a lawsuit against Peggy Sue Gerron for her book about Buddy Holly is only the latest mean-spirited act by the rock 'n' roll legend's widow.
    Once again, Ms. Holly hides behind the claim she is trying to protect the name, image and reputation of Buddy Holly. Once again, we don't believe her.
    She claims Ms. Gerron, who is the namesake of the hit song "Peggy Sue," lied in her book "Whatever Happened to Peggy Sue?" about having a friendship with Buddy Holly, according to a story by Associated Press reporter Betsy Blaney.
    A letter from Ms. Holly's attorney to the publisher of Ms. Gerron's book said confusion and tarnishment of Buddy Holly's name and Ms. Holly's reputation would likely result from the book.
    Ms. Holly's last sham of protecting her husband's image came last year when she told Civic Lubbock it could no longer use the names of the Buddy Holly Terrace and the Buddy Holly Walk of Fame without paying a fee.
    It was selfish and greedy. Lubbock had paid a great honor to Mr. Holly with the namings, and the notion she was trying to protect her husband's name was ridiculous.
    Travis Holley, the rock 'n' roll star's brother, wrote a letter to the A-J saying he and other family members were proud and honored by the use of Mr. Holly's name by the city. Anyone who sincerely cared would feel the same way.
    We wrote on June 18 we would respect her more if she dropped the pretense she was trying to protect the name of her late husband and admitted she was trying to cash in for all the money she can get.
    We wonder what would happen if the publisher of Ms. Gerron's book offered to give Ms. Holly a cut of the royalties. We suspect the book suddenly would be deemed to be quite acceptable.
    In any case, the threat of a frivolous lawsuit is empty. Unauthorized biographies are a common thing in the world of celebrities. Even when the celebrities are viciously attacked - and that certainly is not the case with Ms. Gerron's book - the books are published.
    We hope Buddy Holly's name will fall into public domain under the Texas Property Code next year, which will be 50 years after his death. It would be a happy day for many of us in Buddy Holly's hometown if Maria no longer had control of his name.

    That last sentence: "It would be a happy day for many of us in Buddy Holly's hometown if Maria no longer had control of his estate" rings so true.

    Maria sees absolutely nothing but $$$ signs (remind you of anyone in particular?) in regards to Buddy's legacy. She stayed out of the limelight for nearly 20 years after Buddy's intimely and tragic passing but when she saw what $$$ could be made from his name - there she was right in the thick of it trying to milk it for all it's worth.

    And it's been reported widely that it was J.P.'s (The Big Bopper's) wife who was pregnant at the time of the plane crash - and not Maria (as has widely and falsely been told) all these years. Buddy and Maria were very close to a divorce when the crash happened and Buddy was planning on leaving her and moving back to Lubbock without her and planning on re-forming the Crickets.
    Last edited by Tony Trout; 02-03-2009 at 06:57 AM.

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