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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by memphisflash View Post
    Go to the stores and shop in person. That way you can write a check and not have to worry about credit theft.
    Easier said than done. I am almost 2 hours away from decent shopping, and I am a shopaholic, so I shop online.

  2. #42
    Thanks for everyone's support I really appreciate it and my only desire is for no one to be taken advantage of and to enjoy Elvis artwork for free. I have no problem with anyone using my work for personal use or creating something of their own with it. My problem is when someone either tries to sell something I want people to enjoy for free or claims my work as something they created...especially since I put allot of effort into each one.

    Here is the first email I sent to chogenki which I sent Thu, 1/1/09 which proves he knew exactly what picture was in question but he chose to ignore the email I sent to him.

    first email:
    <<You've received a question about your eBay item, ELVIS CANDID LOVE ME TENDER MOVIE SET COLOR PHOTOThursday, January 1, 2009 2:30 AM
    From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "eBay Member: hcvegas2002" <member@ebay.com>Add sender to Contacts To: hcvegas2002@yahoo.com eBay sent this message to Harry Chavez (hcvegas2002).
    Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more.
    This member has a question for you.
    Dear chogenki,
    I was curious as to how you obtained this picture to sell?

    - hcvegas2002
    Item and user details
    Item Title: ELVIS CANDID LOVE ME TENDER MOVIE SET COLOR PHOTO
    Item Number: 290285947197
    Item URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=290285947197
    End Date: Jan-28-09 15:56:57 PST
    From User: hcvegas2002 (4)
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    Member since Feb-14-06 in United States
    Location: CA, United States
    Activity with hcvegas2002 (last 90 days): hcvegas2002 has bid on 0 of my items

    <<This message was sent while the listing was active. hcvegas2002 is a potential buyer. >>

    This message was ignored. I then sent another email when the picture sold:
    User details:
    From User: hcvegas2002 (4)
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    Member since Feb-14-06 in United States
    Location: CA, United States
    Activity with hcvegas2002 (last 90 days): I have bid on 0 items from hcvegas2002
    Activity with hcvegas2002 (last 90 days): hcvegas2002 has bid on 0 of my items

    <<Dear chogenki,

    You have sold a picture that is watermarked and was created by Harry Chavez. The picture was taken off of tcb-world.com. I've emailed ebay and am also taking other steps to ensure you don't you don't rip me off or others again. I emailed you before and you chose to ignore it. I have a hidden watermark on the picture you sold which proves it is my work.

    - hcvegas2002>>

    To Chogenki's credit he did reply to this one, but only after the picture sold. Here is his reply:
    From User: chogenki (3996)
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    Member since Aug-04-00 in United States
    Location: OR, United States
    Activity with chogenki (last 90 days): I have bid on 0 items from chogenki
    Activity with chogenki (last 90 days): chogenki has bid on 0 of my items

    <<Dear hcvegas2002,

    If so, just tell me instead of your insane note. I will take it down. People send me photos, and if it is yours I will remove it. I don't download from sites. I understand your frustration. Chogenki

    - chogenki >>
    The other seller did not sell the other picture which he listed at 49dollars. I did email him also and he was as usual super defensive. They both know what they did and are only trying to save face now that they are caught.

    Again, I really really appreciate all the comments on this matter and will continue to put up artwork for my fellow Elvis fans and just want ebay shopper to be aware. Thanks,
    Chavez

  3. #43
    I completely 100% agree that it feels bad when some-one is using the work you have done to profit themselves. I also understand that once an Image is on the Internet that basically you give up any rights to your own work

    However the people that count know and respect your work

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    I love looking at all the great pics that you and others post here.......I like to copy and put them in my files only to look at....not to sell...I could not and would not do such.I hope that this is fine for me to put them in my files and albums.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by WHITETIGERMAN View Post
    I love looking at all the great pics that you and others post here.......I like to copy and put them in my files only to look at....not to sell...I could not and would not do such.I hope that this is fine for me to put them in my files and albums.

    I do the same for yours as I do for Ewa and Zey's artwork because I think they are wonderful, but I would never disrespect any of you and your works putting them up for sale.


    Diane

  6. #46
    hcvegas, please continue your beautiful work. I thought the email was strange at best. I received other emails about the situation but, they were from people who had actually purchased his work in the past. That seemed to be how they vouched for him.

    Anyway, great pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    I do the same for yours as I do for Ewa and Zey's artwork because I think they are wonderful, but I would never disrespect any of you and your works putting them up for sale.


    Diane
    I know...cause that's down right dirty and disrespectful

  8. #48
    This whole thing is bugging me, I must admit. I had to come back and ask a question concerning the Ebay guy.

    Doesn't EPE have the final say when money is to be made from Elvis or the likeness of Elvis? So technically, this guy shouldn't be selling these images not only based on stealing them but, according to the law?

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    I am sorry that this has happened, it is so disrespectful to sell another person's work
    or take credit for it and I hope all works out well for you

    The Legends

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by hcvegas View Post
    Thanks for everyone's support I really appreciate it and my only desire is for no one to be taken advantage of and to enjoy Elvis artwork for free. I have no problem with anyone using my work for personal use or creating something of their own with it.
    Thank you for letting us know that. Your work is incredible, and I love using some of your pics in my YT videos, but I would never dream of trying to profit from someone else's work. And, as Diane said, I love putting them in a folder so I can drool over them when the need strikes.

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    The same thing happened to me also I found one of my modified photos being sold on e-bay by chogenki as being original
    I send a message to e-bay to have the photo removed and they replied that they'll check it out Now, i try to put my name on it even though i know it's not going to help they can always remove it

  12. #52
    I bought an 8x10 picture from Chogenki about 18 months ago. He claimed it was an "original"...when the pic arrived there was a big black spot on the end of Elvis' nose. I emailed him about it and he quickly sent out another one. Sounds like this guy is up to no good.

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    hcvegas, I for one love your photos! I also keep many them in my favorites! I feel blessed that you are so willing to share them. I hate it when people take credit for others peoples work. It is so WRONG!
    I have heard of this person Chogenki, sounds like he is a real scam artist!

  14. #54

    Re: Beware.

    Thanks to Lainey, one of the new members of TCB World who sent out emails to other Elvis groups about the ebay pictures of mine. It resulted in Chogenki emailing me with a nice email offering for me to go through his pictures and to remove any that are mine.

    The other seller however, collectors52 sent me a very nasty and threatning email, accusing me with harrasing him simply because I told him he was selling a picture of mine. He said he reported me to ebay. Ironically, the picture of mine that collectors52 is selling on ebay, collectors52 said he bought from Chogenki. Anyway, thanks to everbody that chimed in and I hope you continue to enjoy the Elvis pictures I put up only on this excellent site which is my favorite site.

  15. #55

    Re: Beware.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvegas View Post
    Thanks to Lainey, one of the new members of TCB World who sent out emails to other Elvis groups about the ebay pictures of mine. It resulted in Chogenki emailing me with a nice email offering for me to go through his pictures and to remove any that are mine.

    The other seller however, collectors52 sent me a very nasty and threatning email, accusing me with harrasing him simply because I told him he was selling a picture of mine. He said he reported me to ebay. Ironically, the picture of mine that collectors52 is selling on ebay, collectors52 said he bought from Chogenki. Anyway, thanks to everbody that chimed in and I hope you continue to enjoy the Elvis pictures I put up only on this excellent site which is my favorite site.
    That's good to hear about Chogenki. I hope ebay will get involved and stops other sellers from selling your work! It's not fair!

    Your pictures are amazing!!

    franny

  16. #56

    Re: Beware.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvegas View Post
    Anyway, thanks to everbody that chimed in and I hope you continue to enjoy the Elvis pictures I put up only on this excellent site which is my favorite site.
    Thank you!!! We love your pics!

  17. #57

    Re: Beware.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvegas View Post
    Thanks to Lainey, one of the new members of TCB World who sent out emails to other Elvis groups about the ebay pictures of mine. It resulted in Chogenki emailing me with a nice email offering for me to go through his pictures and to remove any that are mine.
    Thank you for this. I am so glad that this worked out for you. I have since unsubscribed from the email group. I'm glad that there is kindness here in this part of the Elvis world.

  18. #58

    Re: Beware.

    you know what? I bought a photo from the first seller you posted a very long time ago. holy cow. thanks. for the heads up.

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    Re: Beware.

    I'm very pleased that one of the sellers has offered to remove any of your pics he has up.
    I never looked for trouble but I never ran.

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