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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticSun View Post
    That is interesting but.. why..?!
    yeah l'am curious also?

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    "the new diet was injecting him with urine from pregnant women and eating these little tiny bits of thin meat you boil."

    injections of pregnant womens urine. Where did that source come from? haven't heard that one before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoElvis View Post
    He didn't send a message by wearing an AMERICAN EAGLE Jumpsuit he was representing the love for HIS Country to the world. They were originally going to have him wear the thunderbird suit but Elvis said, I don't want to wear something Egyptian I want something that represents, AMERICA"..not a message just simply stating that he loves his Country and yes he wore the flag pin quite often as well too.
    Actually wearing the American Eagle suit was a messgae of him being patriotic and at the time of the Vietnam War at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hounddog View Post
    "the new diet was injecting him with urine from pregnant women and eating these little tiny bits of thin meat you boil."

    injections of pregnant womens urine. Where did that source come from? haven't heard that one before?
    Yeah where did that quote come from? I've heard some crazy things about Elvis before but this one takes the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Yeah where did that quote come from? I've heard some crazy things about Elvis before but this one takes the cake.
    This was mentioned in Peter Guralnick's book -- it isn't something that someone made up to humor you.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    This was mentioned in Peter Guralnick's book -- it isn't something that someone made up to humor you.
    Let me guess, he got it from one of the MM boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    Kimmi-

    I don't think that THIS Aloha press conference was done AFTER a performance but rather upon arrival in Hawaii in November, 1972. He traveled to Hawaii to actually perform several shows as sort of a trial run before the big event in January, 1973.
    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    You are correct Liz...there were NO shows going on at this time. IMO he is very medicated. He flew to Hawaii with a group on the 16th and this press conference was on the 20th.

    Exactly. He's definitely got stuff in his system.


    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    In those few months between June and September, 1972, one has to wonder how it all could have happened so fast. I agree.

    But the press conference in November, he just seems so ..... restained, lacking in the swagger that he frequently displayed in public situations such as this. Its not the energetic, humorous personality of the MSG press conference nor is it the completely over-medicated, heavy breathing and bumbling of the September press conference.

    This one in November always bugged me b/c unlike the September conference, I just can't put my finger on what's wrong with him.

    He's high/stoned....

    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    This was mentioned in Peter Guralnick's book -- it isn't something that someone made up to humor you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Let me guess, he got it from one of the MM boys?

    Correct. Sonny and Lamar went on the diet with Elvis at the same time.

    In spite of what people like to think, they do tell the truth from time to time. It all goes back to "they were there...and we weren't".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Exactly. He's definitely got stuff in his system.





    He's high/stoned....






    Correct. Sonny and Lamar went on the diet with Elvis at the same time.

    In spite of what people like to think, they do tell the truth from time to time. It all goes back to "they were there...and we weren't".
    Amen !!
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Exactly. He's definitely got stuff in his system.


    He's high/stoned....
    I never once doubted that he wasn't functioning without drugs during this Press Conference. But he is so different than the other 2 PC's he gave only months prior to this one. Drugs aside, he definitely appeared without the swagger that he displayed in such public situations - its almost like he left "ELVIS" back at the hotel and brought Elvis by mistake.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    thanks for clearing that up ehollier, i haven't read all of Peter Guralnick's book. I agree Tony they were there we weren't.

    Do you think some of his flatness could be he was down about his marriage falling apart and to top it off he was in Hawaii where he spent a lot of good times with Cilla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Exactly. He's definitely got stuff in his system.





    He's high/stoned....






    Correct. Sonny and Lamar went on the diet with Elvis at the same time.

    In spite of what people like to think, they do tell the truth from time to time. It all goes back to "they were there...and we weren't".
    Hey may be a little bit high but i think saying he is stoned is taking it way to far. to me when someone is stoned they are hardly coherent and are out of their mind...don't think a man who can hold a press conference in front of dozens of folks and can deliver it without any problems is stoned...geez so he may have had a few sleeping pills in his system or something...hardly enough to be stoned...

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    Hey may be a little bit high but i think saying he is stoned is taking it way to far. to me when someone is stoned they are hardly coherent and are out of their mind...don't think a man who can hold a press conference in front of dozens of folks and can deliver it without any problems is stoned...geez so he may have had a few sleeping pills in his system or something...hardly enough to be stoned...
    Take it from an ex drug user and I still struggle with it, after taking so much for so long you get to were you can seem like you're almost sober. I needed more and more everyday and knew how to put up my guard and act straight.
    The people who don't see me everyday, they don't know what's acting normal to me. So when it's in your system that long you need a certain amount to function at the level of what a person who's not using drugs. So when they say that, Elvis was stoned,first off I already knew cause it takes one to know one and then, I automatically think of the crowd at the shows we did when I was stoned couldn't tell. In fact they thought I didn't even drink or smoked but my band mates or girlfriend at the time saw me late at night when it would hit full blown out of control, then I couldn't talk or sing for nothing but I was 100% stoned up on stage while performing and to be honest with you at times it was easier to get through a two hour set that way.
    I will some time soon post the videos of me when I was 18 in my third rock band and then you tell me if you could tell I was stoned.

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    I guess he was caught in a "bad moment" or taking different stuff. I don't think that was something exclusive for that period of time.
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    Just because the MM says it doesn't necessarily mean it's true or happened. Like they say, they were the and we weren't, meaning they can say anything and we have a choice to use our own minds and brains that God put in our round heads or let them brainwash us in to being so naive to buy all their BS they say.

    Just fof the record, certain members of the Memphis Mafia feel they're just as important and legendary as the man himself. Goes to show what they really think of Elvis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    I never once doubted that he wasn't functioning without drugs during this Press Conference. But he is so different than the other 2 PC's he gave only months prior to this one. Drugs aside, he definitely appeared without the swagger that he displayed in such public situations - its almost like he left "ELVIS" back at the hotel and brought Elvis by mistake.

    After watchin' this footage again, I'll agree that Elvis doesn't seem to have the swagger that he had for those kinds os situations.



    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Just because the MM says it doesn't necessarily mean it's true or happened. Like they say, they were the and we weren't, meaning they can say anything and we have a choice to use our own minds and brains that God put in our round heads or let them brainwash us in to being so naive to buy all their BS they say.
    To the best of my knowledge, they were in fact there with him in Hawaii during this entire time so....you tell me...were they just blowing smoke? I think not.



    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Just for the record, certain members of the Memphis Mafia feel they're just as important and legendary as the man himself. Goes to show what they really think of Elvis.
    Even though they act this way sometimes, I guarantee you that they still wish Elvis were here and they loved and still do love him very much despite how things might appear to some of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    After watchin' this footage again, I'll agree that Elvis doesn't seem to have the swagger that he had for those kinds os situations.





    To the best of my knowledge, they were in fact there with him in Hawaii during this entire time so....you tell me...were they just blowing smoke? I think not.





    Even though they act this way sometimes, I guarantee you that they still wish Elvis were here and they loved and still do love him very much despite how things might appear to some of us.
    I see you belong to the I love the Memphis Mafia club because you're naive if you think they still care about Elvis. I have been to the Memphis CA to read it and he is constantly on there arguing with people for not agreeing with him and has even bashed Elvis on there as if he wasn't as important as otehr singers. His name was moon7323 or something like that.

    Oh and he takes all the credit for Elvis' 69 sessions ever happening too as if Elvis had nothing to do with it. I bet you didn't know that did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    I see you belong to the I love the Memphis Mafia club because you're naive if you think they still care about Elvis. I have been to the Memphis CA to read it and he is constantly on there arguing with people for not agreeing with him and has even bashed Elvis on there as if he wasn't as important as otehr singers. His name was moon7323 or something like that.

    Oh and he takes all the credit for Elvis' 69 sessions ever happening too as if Elvis had nothing to do with it. I bet you didn't know that did you?

    I don't think that Tony belongs to any 'MM club' or anything of the sort. However, those of us who are smart, are charged with reading and deciding for ourselves what we choose to believe or not believe. Whether you like to admit it or not, the MM and a few select others are all we have to tell of Elvis and what happened while he was alive. If you were smart, you wouldn't base all of what you have read about the MM and Elvis on a few remarks by moon7323, otherwise known as Marty Lacker. If you choose to not to believe anything by the MM, then that is your choice, but please do not come on the MB and start spewing that everything they say are lies and cannot be believed. You choose not to believe. Great! Move on to another topic.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    I don't think that Tony belongs to any 'MM club' or anything of the sort. However, those of us who are smart, are charged with reading and deciding for ourselves what we choose to believe or not believe. Whether you like to admit it or not, the MM and a few select others are all we have to tell of Elvis and what happened while he was alive. If you were smart, you wouldn't base all of what you have read about the MM and Elvis on a few remarks by moon7323, otherwise known as Marty Lacker. If you choose to not to believe anything by the MM, then that is your choice, but please do not come on the MB and start spewing that everything they say are lies and cannot be believed. You choose not to believe. Great! Move on to another topic.
    Yes it is everyone choice to believe what they want and lets be honest we been told this same thing on the priscilla threads and do we listern?? Nope so it not going to make a difference no matter who defends the mm or who bashes them..just a matter of opinions and something we need to deal with regradles how we feel about any of the people in elvis life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    I don't think that Tony belongs to any 'MM club' or anything of the sort. However, those of us who are smart, are charged with reading and deciding for ourselves what we choose to believe or not believe. Whether you like to admit it or not, the MM and a few select others are all we have to tell of Elvis and what happened while he was alive. If you were smart, you wouldn't base all of what you have read about the MM and Elvis on a few remarks by moon7323, otherwise known as Marty Lacker. If you choose to not to believe anything by the MM, then that is your choice, but please do not come on the MB and start spewing that everything they say are lies and cannot be believed. You choose not to believe. Great! Move on to another topic.
    I have just as much right to call it as I see it just as Tony or you have to try and build them up as some hero. If they were fair and honest then I would give them respect. But they have said some of the lowest most degrading things ever said about Elvis and on tv at that. I can't overlook that especially coming from them who were supposed to be the closest to him.

    Have you also noticed that they keep writing all these books? Like one book isn't enough? It's all about money. Why do you think Lacker and the boys selling items on EBay?

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