Originally Posted by KPM
He knew Ayers. Lived in the same neighborhood. Served on 2 different boards together for 3 years. But, in Obama`s words, "He was just some guy in the neighborhood."
Security is not the absence of danger but the presence of God no matter what the danger.
Right and I have some beach-front property in AZ to sell to you too....He knew Ayers. Lived in the same neighborhood. Served on 2 different boards together for 3 years. But, in Obama`s words, "He was just some guy in the neighborhood."
"...some guy in the neighborhood" Who does he think he' kidding??????
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
I have a question-does anyone think they were plotting some terrorist activity for the future here in the US?He knew Ayers. Lived in the same neighborhood. Served on 2 different boards together for 3 years. But, in Obama`s words, "He was just some guy in the neighborhood."
I only ask this because I have wondered ever since this was thrown into the campaign what McCains implication was about the connection. McCain and his campaign were very careful to never make any direct accusation of something wrong-only the implication-... "Ayers-60s radical-belonged to a group who bombed in the 60s-terrorist........"
McCain never believed there was a new threat to somehow subvert the government of our country-he believed that the implication of "guilt by association" would cast enought doubt on the Obama to sway voters. They tried to put doubts in Jewish voters minds with the Obama is anti-Jewish implication with another professor who was involved with a Palestinian think tank-until they found out that McCain had chaired a group who gave nearly $500,000 to this same think tank. Neither McCain nor Obama were involved with terrorists from Palestine-in the way implied.
Ollie North is another friend of McCain.
North was at the center of national attention during the Iran-Contra Affair, during which he was a key Reagan administration official involved in the clandestine sale of weapons to Iran. The sale of these weapons served both to encourage the release of US hostages and to generate proceeds to support the Contra rebel group. Vice Admiral John M. Poindexter and his deputy, Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North secretly diverted to the Nicaraguan Contras millions of dollars in funds received from a secret deal - the sales of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to Iran - in spite of Reagan's public pledge not to deal with the nation.
He admitted to lying to Congress and he was convicted of 3 different counts. Yet today he is a respected radio commentator. Is the fact that McCain is his friend mean he is also guilty of the wrongs North did in the 80s?
McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy.
In 1971, after serving in several positions in the Nixon administration, Liddy was moved to Nixon's 1972 campaign, the Committee to Re-elect the President (officially known as "CRP" but to opponents known as CREEP), in order to extend the scope and reach of the White House "Plumbers" unit, which had been created in response to various damaging leaks of information to the press. At CRP, Liddy concocted several plots, some far-fetched, intended to embarrass the Democratic opposition.[4] These included firebombing the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. in order to sneak into the building as firemen and grab sensitive classified documents leaked by Daniel Ellsberg, kidnapping anti-war protest organizers and transporting them to Mexico during the Republican National Convention (which at the time was planned for San Diego), and luring mid-level Democratic campaign officials to a house boat in Baltimore where they would be secretly photographed in compromising positions with call girls. Most of Liddy's ideas were rejected, but a few were given the go ahead by Nixon Administration officials, including the break-in at Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office. Ellsberg had leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.[5] At some point, Liddy was instructed to break into the Democratic National Committee offices in the Watergate Hotel.
He ended up serving 4 years for involvement with the burglary-is McCain also guilty of those because they know each other?
Last edited by KPM; 11-06-2008 at 10:15 PM.
CNN showed tonight the rumored potential cabinet seats and man, Obama is building a DREAM TEAM of power in all areas. He's serious about change and change for the better.
Btw, Obama does salute the US flag. That ish was all fabricated to ruin his election chances. Just as was the rumor that he was Muslim. Even McCain said that Obama loves this country just as much as he does.
Maybe some of you who are against the man should read his wonderful autobiography if you wanna know the truth about the man instead of judging him based on biased media hearsay.
For the sake of accuracy and your generations point of view I just asked my 2 daughters 22 and 24 if Beyonce is a living legend-both of them laughed. They said pretty much what I did (independent of me) that you have to be around much longer than 10 years and have a huge huge impact in some way to be a living legend. I asked them who they would consider a living legend One said Madonna or Micheal Jackson the other said Eric Clapton and Mick Jaggar.
Part of being a living legend is longevity.
No thats not the reason they were at the dinner table because that night if you listen to the interview Lisa didn't even remember her saying that when her and her mother were on the show, Oprah and Gail were at Graceland because of the Oprah show they were doing that cross country trip and it was if i am not mistaken the 30th anny of Elvis death so i think they used each other to promote their events!!! I am sure that Elvis wasn't the only person to have the last name presley not that i don't think that someplace down the line they MIGHT be family because anything is possible...
R.I.P ~ROSANNE~
We will forever miss you at TCB
Tell Elvis we say HI
Wrong, it was in May 06 just a few weeks before Bush and Japanese Prime Minister Koizumi visited. It had nothing to do with any promotion.
Lisa said herself that she forgot that Oprah had told her that and said she must have suffered from a brain warp or brain fart.
Well considering that she's everywhere and now got yet another album being released next week and about to star in yet another movie, I think she's leaving her mark on the industry as a legend.Her fans already are calling her a legend now. Don't forget that she's been in the spotlight since she was 16 now 27.
Let me give you an example of what I mean.Well considering that she's everywhere and now got yet another album being released next week and about to star in yet another movie, I think she's leaving her mark on the industry as a legend.
If I ask my mom who Beyonce is-she will have no idea. I only know her because she was in one of the Austin Powers movie. Yet my mom knows who Madonna is, McCartney, Chuck Berry, Bob Dylan etc....now my mom is not a huge rock fan-but she knows these people are special in the entertainment industry.
But give Beyonce another 15-20 years (which would put her at a 30 year career point) if she is still as popular with your generation-still is working and has produced some great music/movies during that time then you can say I knew she was one long ago.
He would have been, IMO, and he should have had the Republican nomination in 2000. McCain at least wouldn't have piled up $10 trillion on the national credit card.I like John Mccain and thought he would've been a better President than Bush.
But the Republicans had Congress and the White House, didn't run things very well, and got hammered in the 2006 elections. It was a rough year to be running as a Republican even before the financial crisis hit.
Now we'll see how Obama and the Democrats do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o
here is a video of Obama not honoring the flag
Yes. If you cannot support your president when the USA - and the world - needs bipartisan support more than ever, you are a bad citizen.
You are therefore part of the problem and not the solution.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Your posts for a start.
Like a lot of Americans, you assume that you know more about your country simply because you're an American.
And you have no idea how much time I've spent in the States.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
(Sigh)
Here is the real explanation behind that video.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
Last edited by Getlo; 11-07-2008 at 01:33 AM.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
I don't see how this article justifies not placing his hand over his heart during the national anthem. There was a quote Obama said on that website that said he was taught to put his hand over his heart during the pledge and sing the national anthem. Is it so hard to both sing and place your hand over you heart during the national anthem? You are suppossed to put your hand over your heart during the national anthem and whether or not you are taught to do that I think if you are running for president you should. It is not a pointless tradition that you can decide to do when ever you want to; it is honoring the flag, the country, and all who died to protect it. Putting your hand over your heart during the national anthem is something U.S. citizens learn at an early age. From little league sport games you played in when you were little, to professional sports game, to the Olympics, you see US citizens placing their hand over their heart during the national anthem. I know many times Obama did place his hand over his heart, but why not then? I am not saying that that one instance makes him a bad president, I just find it odd.
Look i just watched it
Lisa Maire said that no other NON family members have had dinner at the table...
The reason they were their was for Oprah and gales Big adventure show, not because they were apparent family members..
Also Oprah said that they were like 18th cousins
Lisa said i read that in a tabloid
Oprah yes but its ture...
I did not hear nothing about a brain fart.. mayme u should watch it again!!!!!
go to www.presleypride.com go to the video part look for Lisa giving Oprah a tour of Graceland ... your right it wasn't for Elvis 30th anny but i believe it was around the time they launch Elvis by the Presley's because i got my book in 2006......
R.I.P ~ROSANNE~
We will forever miss you at TCB
Tell Elvis we say HI
Yeah the lady singing... My goodness!!!!!!
R.I.P ~ROSANNE~
We will forever miss you at TCB
Tell Elvis we say HI
Not only that CNN and other American outlets... You don't half to be American to know about your country...
R.I.P ~ROSANNE~
We will forever miss you at TCB
Tell Elvis we say HI
It`s possible that terrorists are plotting something and he (Obama) is a willing participant. Whether or not he is aware, I don`t know.
"Islam isn`t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
That was a direct quote from Omar Ahmad, Chairman of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
He also said that Islam wants to destroy America from within. What better way to start than at the Presidency?
No, McCain was not guilty he was cleared of any knowledge of the incident. You cannot compare this to Obama`s ties with Ayers and other radicals.
Security is not the absence of danger but the presence of God no matter what the danger.
CNN showed tonight the rumored potential cabinet seats and man, Obama is building a DREAM TEAM of power in all areas. He's serious about change and change for the better.
Btw, Obama does salute the US flag. That ish was all fabricated to ruin his election chances. Just as was the rumor that he was Muslim. Even McCain said that Obama loves this country just as much as he does.
Maybe some of you who are against the man should read his wonderful autobiography if you wanna know the truth about the man instead of judging him based on biased media hearsay.
Perhaps you should stop reading the statements on Obama`s website and start doing a little research on your own. The story is NOT fabricated. Would you like to hear him say in his own words?
"As I`ve said about the flag pin, I don`t want to be percieved as taking sides. There are alot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose.
Want additional info? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fi...ill-msm-notice Take a look. I`ll gladly give you additional links to more credible sources if you`d like.
Security is not the absence of danger but the presence of God no matter what the danger.
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