I liked the John McCain of 2000-he was a maverick, he had honor and he was visciously attacked by Karl Roves election team in many false and misleading ads. McCain was just hammered by this so called "Swift Boat" type campaining from the Bush side. He deplored their tactics-yet he hired the same firms to work on his 2008 campaign and they used the same tactics. My respect for him went down. Wrong is wrong. Thats the reason so many kept saying this was not the real John McCain in this last 8-10 months.Originally Posted by Brian
The old John McCain condemned these tactics.
Complaining that the KKK is still around? What about the Black Panthers and the way they tried to intimidate voters in Philly??
Intimidate!!! NOT MURDER!! I am sure the black panthers have done it too.. But i never herd that if McCain was to become President they were going to kill him....... No ones perfect both groups need to get a life...
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I don't remember that old John McCain but it sounds like I would have liked him. This latest one however had a look on his face almost from the beginning that he knew he would lose the election.
I can't tell you how I felt about the "tactics" his team used, it wouldn't be allowed but I can say I was disgusted at the telephone calls we got daily several weeks before the campaigning was over...back up...even on the day of the election asking that we vote for McCain. We didn't get one single call from Obama's team and so felt he was class in comparison. Maybe that in itself was a tactic, we'll never know.
Diane
With Obama in office there won't be any need for the Black Panthers or Jessie Jackson. That's why he was crying at Obama's victory speech because he knows now he's gotta get a real job.
Obama's already making great decisions and he hasn't even gotten into office yet. He just appointed Rahm Emanuel to the chief of staff position. He was also under former president Bill Clinton's administration.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081106/...go_pr_wh/obama
The country was in pretty good shape when Clinton was in office so if Obama is getting some of the same people behind him...we're going to do all right!
Diane
Rahm Emanuel turned him down.Obama's already making great decisions and he hasn't even gotten into office yet. He just appointed Rahm Emanuel to the chief of staff position. He was also under former president Bill Clinton's administration.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081106/...go_pr_wh/obama
i personally think, this is not the place for who won or no. this site is about Elvis, not who you voted for.
Not from what I just heard on the news-it said Democrats in Chicago
say he has accepted the offer and it will be announced in a press conference. I had heard Emanuel was concerned about the impact this decision would have on his family and was weighing the choice carefully.
This is the "Off Topic" area so its okay here to talk about pretty much anything.
In case you didn't notice it's in the off-topic section.
Obama an Elvis fan too...well then, we'll have another winner in the White House!
Diane
These kind of topics never used to be allowed and l know cause my thread along time got closed by one of the mods, but l'am guessing rules have changed. IMO it doesn't bug me either way what we discuss, its what happening in the world.
How could the world's biggest story not be discussed? This effects the entire planet.
The owner of the forum has now allowed these kind of discussions, so its a good thing.
OTTAWA (Reuters) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday he wants to tell President-elect Barack Obama that Canada stands ready as the best friend and partner of the United States.
He termed Obama's election an inspiration because he is the first black to win the presidency, adding the victory was a remarkable feat that students of politics would want to study.
"I think everyone not only in the United States but around the world is quite excited by the possibility of change in the United States, our neighbor," Harper told a news conference in Toronto.
He said he hoped to speak to Obama in the coming hours, or at most the next day or two, and to meet him at the appropriate time.
"Canada is there to be not just an ally and a partner of the United States but its most reliable ally and its best friend and partner in the world. That's what we're there to do. We will be there, and I look forward to that conversation and meeting the senator in person," Harper said.
It was the prime minister's first public event since the U.S. election, and his remarks were much fuller than a brief written statement his staff put out on election night.
"This is a tremendous, historic occasion for the United States, in all kinds of ways. Obviously the election of the first African-American president is a tremendous and truly inspiring moment," he said.
"And I think all of us who are maybe a little bit older ... understand why that truly is, when you see the changes that have occurred in their society and our society over the past couple of generations."
Harper, who just won re-election in a 37-day campaign, is a keen strategist and student of politics, and admired Obama's two-stage victory.
"It was a remarkable campaign, not just President-elect Obama's win in the general election but particularly his win in the primary race, where he in a sense came from out of nowhere to beat established political machines," he said.
"I think (it) is a political story that is going to probably be studied by my people and many people for a long time to come."
Harper is a Conservative who had a natural affinity with Republican President George W. Bush, but he said he intended to tell the Democrat Obama that the Canada-U.S. relationship is never about who is prime minister or president but about close bilateral ties.
In March, Harper had found himself on the hot seat in Parliament after a leak of information about Obama's position on the North American Free Trade Agreement became a factor in the Democratic primary campaign.
The internal Canadian memo had quoted an Obama adviser as saying not to pay attention to his protectionist rhetoric about NAFTA. Nobody disputed the accuracy of the memo but Harper told Parliament at the time its leak was unfair to Obama.
On Thursday, Harper said the top three issues he would raise with Obama were the economic crisis; the environment and energy security; and international security and foreign policy.
He welcomed Obama's intention to shift focus from Iraq to Afghanistan, where Canada has 2,500 troops.
"We obviously view that as positive, and obviously consistent with Canadian policy," he said.
A Canadian official also said Ottawa would like to look at a joint pact with the United States on fighting climate change, one that would seek to provide a level playing field on both sides of the border.
(Additional reporting by John McCrank in Toronto; editing by Rob Wilson)
source:http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/0...lection_canada
Don't be ridiculous. That is the most fatuous thing I have ever read. Because he wasn't born in a mansion, therefore he was born into poverty? Do some basic research before posting stuff like this. Obama was not - repeat NOT - born into poverty. His parents were middle class university students in Hawaii. You are 100% wrong on this.
Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, Little Richard, Chuck Berry and scores of others would disagree. Beyonce, arguably, is the most popular black singer today, but she is nowhere near the most famous.
You can't handle the truth, can you? Yes, Jefferson owned slaves but it is a FACT that he, along with the others I mentioned, had black ancestry. FACT.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
And tell me, what experience did George W. Bush have when he was "elected" in 2000?
Here's a hint: Less than Obama's.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
My point was that he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth same with Elvis. Obama grew up on the Southside of Chicago which was and still is poverty stricken. It was on the Southside where Jennifer Hudson's family was murdered recently.
No Beyonce's not the most famous ever, but she is a living legend already. I meant that she's the most famous black entertainer out there TODAY. Not in history.
Nowhere in American history or history books is Thomas Jefferson considered a black man. Barack's biological father is Kenyon which is African and his mom is Caucasian. Jefferson wasn't mixed or biracial in any way. Maybe you should learn your history.
Oprah Winfrey claims she's Elvis' 6th cousin but you don't hear of anyone calling Elvis black now do you?
I would have to disagree-that Beyonce is a Living Legend already.
Chuck Berry is a living legend, Paul McCartney is a living legend, Bob Dylan etc..Beyonce-give her another 20 years and IMO we'll see then if she meets that very high standard of Living Legend.
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