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    Graceland 1977 Pool Footage

    What do you make of this.

    Could their possibly be a chance this footage exist, and EPE are holding it back for that huge ultimate anthology they are suppose to be working on for release someday.

    Perhaps Elvis said something in the interview if indeed it happened that touched something whether it be about his life or how he felt with himself at that time, with him dying just a month later in August and EPE felt it should be hidden away..
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    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    I have always heard rumors about this pool footage! It would be fantastic if it was true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight View Post
    I have always heard rumors about this pool footage! It would be fantastic if it was true.
    Would certainly be something interesting see no doubt about it! If only true that is.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    After reading this once more, I remember reading somewhere when Elvis was told about the EIC CBS Special by Parker, he agreed, but didn't want to have to do anything special, no sort of interviews etc, just the live concerts filmed and thats it. That's got me questioning now if this could be true, the interview by the pool.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    I think this is not true, have heard this before, it would have surfaced after all this time.

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    Don't know if an actual interview was done or not but the camera crew did film in and around Memphis so it's possible. Here's another thought, maybe they meant the interview was with Vernon instead of Elvis.

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    I know its a long shot but I would like to think theres a really small chance that this could have happened...and EPE are holding it for something big..
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    What do you make of this.

    Could their possibly be a chance this footage exist, and EPE are holding it back for that huge ultimate anthology they are suppose to be working on for release someday.

    Perhaps Elvis said something in the interview if indeed it happened that touched something whether it be about his life or how he felt with himself at that time, with him dying just a month later in August and EPE felt it should be hidden away..
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    I think this is not true, have heard this before, it would have surfaced after all this time.

    If it was true, I think it would've surfaced by now - same goes for the continually rumored pro footage of MSG shows.

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    Wink

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    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    Call me a dreamer then
    Yes, I wish.

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    In the DVD EIC (Omaha & Rapid City) they did an interview with Venron at Dolan drive where he talks about Elvis,s early days and Colonel Parker ect, And they showed parts of Graceland... no pool footage though. I know other members have EIC on dvd..do you remember this footage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john carpenter View Post
    In the DVD EIC (Omaha & Rapid City) they did an interview with Venron at Dolan drive where he talks about Elvis,s early days and Colonel Parker ect, And they showed parts of Graceland... no pool footage though. I know other members have EIC on dvd..do you remember this footage?

    CBS filmed, not videotaped, Vernon and the Graceland grounds in late June, just before he joined Elvis in Cincinnati on June 25. June 17-19, 1977 (Friday-Sunday) may be the time frame for when the producers came to see Vernon at Graceland.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    CBS filmed, not videotaped, Vernon and the Graceland grounds in late June, just before he joined Elvis in Cincinnati on June 25. June 17-19, 1977 (Friday-Sunday) may be the time frame for when the producers came to see Vernon at Graceland.
    Actualy I do believe it was videotaped becuase it was tv special and not being made as a filmed movie. TV and movie productions are done much differently.

    CBS recorded two different interviews known of with Vernon for the special. One was as mentioned and the other was when they returned to Memphis following Elvis' death and recorded Vernon thanking the fans for their cars and letters to the family.

    I have heard from others in the past that Elvis didn't want to be interviewed and that this was the reason for Vernon to do the only interviews. Keep in mind that nobody including the antourage wanted to be a part of the interview segments. That's why they turned to the fans for rest.

    I think those around Elvis knew it was a bad idea by the Colonel and by Vernon to convince Elvis to do it. IMO Parker knew Elvis was in bad shape and knew if he didn't get some type of pro shot footage of him then that he might never get the chance for future reference. I know it sounds classless but hey, that was how the Colonel worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    I think those around Elvis knew it was a bad idea by the Colonel and by Vernon to convince Elvis to do it. IMO Parker knew Elvis was in bad shape and knew if he didn't get some type of pro shot footage of him then that he might never get the chance for future reference. I know it sounds classless but hey, that was how the Colonel worked.
    Your right they didn't like the fact Parker let Elvis do that special.

    Marty lacker said he saw it and he cried, and he was madder than hell at Vernon and Parker for allowing CBS to show that on october 3rd 1977.

    Had Elvis lived i gurantee you it would NOT have been shown on tv.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    yes i remember this well and have this on dvd and it could be that the pool interview with E.P. is highly unlikely, but again you never know what E.P.E. are sitting on , the interview with vernon was done by a news crew from seattle i believe.

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    This pool footage does not exist.

    This rumour is perpetuated by the likes of Christian and other collectors who swear up and down that they have either seen it, or know a collector who has it ("It's in private hands" is a popular refrain).

    It's total BS, without a shred of credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    This pool footage does not exist.

    This rumour is perpetuated by the likes of Christian and other collectors who swear up and down that they have either seen it, or know a collector who has it ("It's in private hands" is a popular refrain).

    It's total BS, without a shred of credibility.

    Now unless you were there or have been through EPE's files you have no idea or proof of what does or does not exist. I'm not naive but all of these posters saying what did or didn't happen on 8-16-77 or what was shot and not shot in 77 are just speculating unless they were actually there and I'm pretty sure that noone here was. We are all just fans not insiders from the past in Elvis' life. Although some like to believe that they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Now unless you were there or have been through EPE's files you have no idea or proof of what does or does not exist. I'm not naive but all of these posters saying what did or didn't happen on 8-16-77 or what was shot and not shot in 77 are just speculating unless they were actually there and I'm pretty sure that noone here was. We are all just fans not insiders from the past in Elvis' life. Although some like to believe that they were.
    Absolutely-but if you listen to people who were there in interviews, and you read enough books describing the same events over and over-you get a picture of the basic events as they happened. Sure some of the details are not exactly the same but you can get a pretty good idea of the situations which happened. None of us were there when Lincoln was shot-but we all know where it happened, by whom it was done, and that he died. There are very detailed accounts (from varying sources) which give much more specific information on Lincolns assassination and the events leading up to it.
    Its the same with any event in history-you are not there but you learn about them in the same way- read books, listen to people who were involved and you learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    Absolutely-but if you listen to people who were there in interviews, and you read enough books describing the same events over and over-you get a picture of the basic events as they happened. Sure some of the details are not exactly the same but you can get a pretty good idea of the situations which happened. None of us were there when Lincoln was shot-but we all know where it happened, by whom it was done, and that he died. There are very detailed accounts (from varying sources) which give much more specific information on Lincolns assassination and the events leading up to it. Its the same with any event in history-you are not there but you learn about them in the same way read books, listen to people who were involved and you learn.
    Read my latest post under Joyce Bova thread.

    The Lincoln thing is so much differnet as so many witnesses were there at the theater and saw him get shot and die. But the same cannot be said for Elvis accept for those who worked for him were close to him. They would be led to lie for him before the general public would about Lincoln.

    Also, books are known to lie and stretch the truth as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislives72 View Post
    Read my latest post under Joyce Bova thread.

    The Lincoln thing is so much differnet as so many witnesses were there at the theater and saw him get shot and die. But the same cannot be said for Elvis accept for those who worked for him were close to him. They would be led to lie for him before the general public would about Lincoln.

    Also, books are known to lie and stretch the truth as well.
    Friend I agree-people stretch the truth, and also out and out lie.
    But to say that "everyone involved" on 8-16-77 is lying or deceiving the public, the government and above all Lisa-is a huge stretch in itself.
    Doctors, ambulance drivers, nurses (including the very honest and sincere Marion Cocke) morgue workers, news reporters-funeral home which prepared Elvis's body all would have to be in on it-huge stretch. Take a look at the news coverage from the day Elvis died-you can see the raw emotion and shock in the faces of people who were there the pain of losing someone they loved-you can not fake that IMO.

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