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  1. #41
    I will always be suspicious of having Priscilla move into Graceland when her parents were due to be moving back to the states in just a few months. There's an air of them wanting to be assured that Priscilla stayed in his life to me. Not easy to get rid of her once she was living there......the publicity would have been horrendous.

    Diane

  2. #42
    After this being discussed so many times, it really is senseless to put my two cents in when its been said time and time again and but as far as l'am concern this doesn't bug me a bit and nor am l going to run around blaming priscilla parents and be honest l can't say if l would let my child go or not.

  3. #43
    good point Presley 31.
    Hard to say indeed, one has to know the real circumstances, the real family dynamic there was etc etc and the real reasons why they did let her go.

    Teens can be very very persuasive once they have their mind set into something and Pris was a young lady who really really knew what she wanted, very goal oriented and most of the time I guess she was a spoiled little girl , esp by her mom.

    What Pris wanted, Pris got......

    Can't blame those parents really. They did what they tought was the best thing for their daughter and let's face it. It wasn't bad. Elvis did love her, married her, ...

    They had that beautiful child and the future looked bright for a while too.

    No parent can see in the future but I'm sure they let her go because they were sure about him and because they loved and trusted him.

    Pris could very well have been happily married ever after too.

    What if they didn't let her go..... Then they would have lost their daughter because I'm sure they would have been reminded for not letting her go ever after.

    Now she choose herself her lifepath, had to learn from her mistakes etc etc....

    Isn't that normal. We parents can't shield our kids forever from life, from wrong descisions or from wrong choices of partners.....

    Everyone has to go his or her own way and 18 is a good age to make own descisions.

    Parents can advice but cannot decide once a person has reached that age

    never say never because lots of teens do worse things then marrying Elvis Presley
    Last edited by riley; 10-05-2008 at 08:37 AM.
    It's hard NOT to imagine Elvis as perfect; how else could someone be THAT good looking, THAT talented, THAT generous & THAT charismatic

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by riley View Post
    ............lots of teens do worse things then marrying Elvis Presley

    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    I will always be suspicious of having Priscilla move into Graceland when her parents were due to be moving back to the states in just a few months. There's an air of them wanting to be assured that Priscilla stayed in his life to me.
    Me too Diane. And I wonder how they took knowing about their future son in law love affairs while their daughter was waiting at home to marry him, they seemed not to care at all
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  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by riley View Post
    good point Presley 31.
    Hard to say indeed, one has to know the real circumstances, the real family dynamic there was etc etc and the real reasons why they did let her go.

    Teens can be very very persuasive once they have their mind set into something and Pris was a young lady who really really knew what she wanted, very goal oriented and most of the time I guess she was a spoiled little girl , esp by her mom.

    What Pris wanted, Pris got......

    Can't blame those parents really. They did what they tought was the best thing for their daughter and let's face it. It wasn't bad. Elvis did love her, married her, ...

    They had that beautiful child and the future looked bright for a while too.

    No parent can see in the future but I'm sure they let her go because they were sure about him and because they loved and trusted him.

    Pris could very well have been happily married ever after too.

    What if they didn't let her go..... Then they would have lost their daughter because I'm sure they would have been reminded for not letting her go ever after.

    Now she choose herself her lifepath, had to learn from her mistakes etc etc....

    Isn't that normal. We parents can't shield our kids forever from life, from wrong descisions or from wrong choices of partners.....

    Everyone has to go his or her own way and 18 is a good age to make own descisions.

    Parents can advice but cannot decide once a person has reached that age

    never say never because lots of teens do worse things then marrying Elvis Presley
    good post riley

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    Me too Diane. And I wonder how they took knowing about their future son in law love affairs while their daughter was waiting at home to marry him, they seemed not to care at all
    True, but we don't know what b.s. Elvis told them when these stories were published, either.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    True, but we don't know what b.s. Elvis told them when these stories were published, either.
    Don't think so ehollier. They must be the most easy to fool parents then if they thought her daughter used to visit a 24 year old man at night to play chess, slept at her own room when she visited him in the US, was faithful to her with all those actresses around him all the time and not any of his romances made public were true. We are talking here about two full grown people and I really doubt they would have had that all is fine attitude if Elvis had been still a truck driver working for Crown Electric.
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  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    Don't think so ehollier. They must be the most easy to fool parents then if they thought her daughter used to visit a 24 year old man at night to play chess, slept at her own room when she visited him in the US, was faithful to her with all those actresses around him all the time and not any of his romances made public were true. We are talking here about two full grown people and I really doubt they would have had that all is fine attitude if Elvis had been still a truck driver working for Crown Electric.
    Visiting with Elvis when he was 24 is one thing. Visiting with him when he was 28 or 29 is something entirely different especially since by the time she turned 18, she was a legal adult here in the US. They couldn't have made her come home if they insisted. Its very easy to think of Priscialla meeting Elvis in Germany and when she came her to live as the same time, but in reality, there was an enormous difference and don't think that Elvis didn't realize this.
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    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by riley View Post
    good point Presley 31.
    Hard to say indeed, one has to know the real circumstances, the real family dynamic there was etc etc and the real reasons why they did let her go.

    Teens can be very very persuasive once they have their mind set into something and Pris was a young lady who really really knew what she wanted, very goal oriented and most of the time I guess she was a spoiled little girl , esp by her mom.

    What Pris wanted, Pris got......

    Can't blame those parents really. They did what they tought was the best thing for their daughter and let's face it. It wasn't bad. Elvis did love her, married her, ...

    They had that beautiful child and the future looked bright for a while too.

    No parent can see in the future but I'm sure they let her go because they were sure about him and because they loved and trusted him.

    Pris could very well have been happily married ever after too.

    What if they didn't let her go..... Then they would have lost their daughter because I'm sure they would have been reminded for not letting her go ever after.

    Now she choose herself her lifepath, had to learn from her mistakes etc etc....

    Isn't that normal. We parents can't shield our kids forever from life, from wrong descisions or from wrong choices of partners.....

    Everyone has to go his or her own way and 18 is a good age to make own descisions.

    Parents can advice but cannot decide once a person has reached that age

    never say never because lots of teens do worse things then marrying Elvis Presley
    What you said was true about teens! But the difference here is that Priscilla did not run away with Elvis or go out with him behind her parents back ! Her parents made the decision to let her go! They also made the decision to allow her to go out with Elvis when she was just 14 while living in Germany! My parents would not even let me hang out at the mall at night when I was 14 with my friends!
    I would not care what my child did she would not of been allowed to go out with,at 14, a 24 year old man! I would not care who he was!!! I am sure they smelled money and the prestige that came with having their child date Elvis!

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    Visiting with Elvis when he was 24 is one thing. Visiting with him when he was 28 or 29 is something entirely different especially since by the time she turned 18, she was a legal adult here in the US. They couldn't have made her come home if they insisted. Its very easy to think of Priscialla meeting Elvis in Germany and when she came her to live as the same time, but in reality, there was an enormous difference and don't think that Elvis didn't realize this.
    Obviously we don't see this story in the same way but if I'm not mistaken she was 16 the first time she went to visit Elvis after he left Germany so not only they could have made her come home, they had the right to not let her cross the ocean if they didn't want her to. But the key in all this is they were so keen on it as she was. And to top it all don't forget it was well known Elvis and Anita Wood were toghether.
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  12. #52
    my point of view until this day is that Priscilla wanted to be with him (for whatever reason but i still try to believe it was love)
    and that the parents did agree easily simply because they knew Pris was going to have a very good easy and wealthy life...

    Is that wrong???? I don't think so

    As a mother i would also love to see my girl happily married and living in wealth. Always better then to see her suffer in poverty.

    Ann probably was her lifeline and gave her instructions to be patient, to be sweet, to become his every desire etc etc..... That I don't doubt for one minute but altough a bit too eager to become his mother in law perhaps, well I can understand her point of view too....

    She was ambitious for her lovechild. All who read Childbride know that.

    I think Pris, in her mind, was only going to marry someone rich and or famous.

    And with Elvis they were about to catch the biggest fish of all.....


    @ midnight


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    I am sure they smelled money and the prestige that came with having their child date Elvis!


    end quote


    That I also am sure of. They were indeed keen on that idea but hey they didn't sell her to Elvis either. Pris wanted him, Elvis wanted her and the parents were beyond happy with the relationship that is true.



    @ Donut



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    But the key in all this is they were so keen on it as she was.



    end quote




    Totally agree
    Last edited by riley; 10-05-2008 at 09:34 AM.
    It's hard NOT to imagine Elvis as perfect; how else could someone be THAT good looking, THAT talented, THAT generous & THAT charismatic

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    Obviously we don't see this story in the same way but if I'm not mistaken she was 16 the first time she went to visit Elvis after he left Germany so not only they could have made her come home, they had the right to not let her cross the ocean if they didn't want her to. But the key in all this is they were so keen on it as she was. And to top it all don't forget it was well known Elvis and Anita Wood were toghether.
    She was 17 when she visited during the summer and winter of '62. You are correct in that her parents could've stopped her from coming to visit. And its your perogative to feel that there were ulterior motives in her parents allowing her to visit, whether it be in Germany at 14 or the US at 17.

    In Germany, Elvis and Vernon visited her parents and painted a picture of his spending time talking and singing with his friends, like a brother and confiding in her b/c he was so very sad about his mother and being away from his fans. We known now that more than that happened, but if Elvis was able to paint a picture for her parents that convinced them to allow her to visit him when she was 14, then I don't think we should read any more into it then what he told them. Apparently, her parents weren't any more immune to his power of persuasion than anyone else.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by riley View Post
    my point of view until this day is that Priscilla wanted to be with him (for whatever reason but i still try to believe it was love)
    and that the parents did agree easily simply because they knew Pris was going to have a very good easy and wealthy life...

    Is that wrong???? I don't think so
    Well riley, according to my way of thinking it is. I would never put wealth before to my or my loved ones' dignity and that's what happened while Elvis was fooling around with other girls while their daughter was waiting for Elvis to decide when "the time was right for them to marry" (Priscilla's own words).
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    [B][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorange]In Germany, Elvis and Vernon visited her parents and painted a picture of his spending time talking and singing with his friends, like a brother and confiding in her b/c he was so very sad about his mother and being away from his fans


    Don't take offense but you left me speechless now, you'll have to admit that sounds so laughable as the everything is Priscilla's fault quotes
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post


    Don't take offense but you left me speechless now, you'll have to admit that sounds so laughable as the everything is Priscilla's fault quotes
    Well, as laughable is this may sound, let me remind you that this is the only recollection we have of his conversation with her parents in Germany. Unless, you have some other evidence to the contrary.

    But at least I made you laugh. I thought only Teddy was able to do that.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

  17. #57
    they didn't know everything either IMO. They were convinced by him, by his promises, by him telling he loved her very much etc etc.....

    I'm sure Pris didn't tell the negative things to her parents either. They could have considered it as just magazine gossip and in EBTP they also admitted that Pris told them "very little" about what was going on.

    Maybe she painted a more pink coloured version of how it was, living with him.....

    Being rich is not a priority indeed.

    My kids are allowed to date whoever they like, hell I did the same and didn't marry rich either...

    But I mean..... suppose my kid would tell me she loved somebody who was nice, sweet, had a good career and hey was rich too well what would I say as a mother???

    I would say, well that's nice to hear.... I wouldn't be against the relationship because of the fact he would be rich, ofcourse not.
    As long as she loved him and he loved her and apparently that was the situation since he wanted her with him and she was eager to go also....

    It's no sin when money is earned in honnesty.

    I think they were overwhelmed by it, by the whole idea and yes they were keen supporters of that relationship. I don't doubt that. And I think they choose to be patient and wear rose coloured glasses because they HOPED he would in the end marry her.

    Pris was a free girl, she could have left him "before "marriage. She knew what she going to get. She choose to date the number one prince charming of that time and gladly took the privileges of that life too.She knew he cheated, but it was her descision to stay and to say yes on May 1th 1967.

    As a parent you can only watch and hope for the best. When two young people date and marry I guess every parent has many?????????????

    Maybe the Beaulieu's had them too you know , but what could they do.... Hoping for the best I guess.....Hoping that the marriage would work.....

    Was it a mistake to let her go, was it a mistake to let her marry Elvis....

    Difficult to say. Only Pris will know the true aswers.

    Being a parent can be so difficult especially to draw a line regarding relationships.....

    Who is Mr right
    Who is Mister wrong

    Every youngster has to find his or her own love intrest and parents can only advice and "hope" for the best.....
    It's hard NOT to imagine Elvis as perfect; how else could someone be THAT good looking, THAT talented, THAT generous & THAT charismatic

  18. #58
    I believe too that the version offered in Germany to them was a very sweet sugar coated one
    It's hard NOT to imagine Elvis as perfect; how else could someone be THAT good looking, THAT talented, THAT generous & THAT charismatic

  19. #59

    Was Priscilla smart enough to trick Elvis into marriage?

    To answer the question being asked...I don't understand why she would have to trick Elvis into marrying her?? It's not a case of being smart enough, IMO. Elvis had other woman and either he broke up with them or the other way around...

    I have read the posts, some very interesting

    I have to admit at 14 she was too young to be spending all those nights with a 24 year old man...I think her parents' just wanted to see her happy, since she had just moved to Germany, not saying they went about it the right way....

    But!!...Let me ask this...How many girls' would not have wanted to meet Elvis at 14 or any age? I know if it were me, I would want too They probably saw no harm at first and I'm sure had no idea it would lead to anything...I agree with riley, "never say never because lots of teens do worse things then marrying Elvis Presley" So true!

    franny

  20. #60
    All l can say if elvis was at my door wanting to date my daughter l don't think l would hold her back cause i can't run my kids life but let them learn though there own experinces and be here for advice, maybe that makes me a bad mother, but l won't distory the chance for my kid to be happy.

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