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    MissyM
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    85 percent of EPE

    Do you ever wish that Lisa had sold less of her interest in EPE? Do you think that would have given her more control? If she only visits Graceland on occasion, why keep it at all and sign a 100 year lease on it?? What good is that? Two of her interveiws are contradicting. One she says she had great memories and one bad ones. Then she says that she would never actually live there, (no longer stays overnite)and since she has leased it out basically till forever, where is the sentiment. Does anyone know about that rumor that she was going to sell the other 15 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    Do you ever wish that Lisa had sold less of her interest in EPE?
    Yes. I said when this came through that it was a bad idea, and that Graceland would turn into Disneyland II. So far, I have been proven right. The changes have mostly been bad: major price hikes, the EPE sanctioned ETA contest AT Graceland, and other things our former friend EP75/keke/Lakeisha used to espouse.

    Elvis is slowly being turned into a corporate product, and I for one lament what is happening at EPE now. The magic has gone. The whole affair is a disgrace.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    If she only visits Graceland on occasion, why keep it at all and sign a 100 year lease on it?? What good is that?
    Money. Simple as that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    Two of her interveiws are contradicting. One she says she had great memories and one bad ones.
    That's because Lisa is mostly full of crap, and her memories (especially of the "evil" MM) have been tainted by her vulture of a mother.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    Then she says that she would never actually live there, (no longer stays overnite)and since she has leased it out basically till forever, where is the sentiment.
    Sentiment has no place in business. If it is to be a successful business, sentiment must be thrown out. The only sentiment per se should be about the house itself and the music.

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    Does anyone know about that rumor that she was going to sell the other 15 percent.
    This will never happen, not so long as she is alive, anyway.
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    MissyM
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    Getlo, I was only going by what has been opined. That she kept it for sentimental reasons. And IMO that is what they try to portray, that they have any sentimental attachment to it. If they do it's minimal if it exsists at all and for the most part it's business as usual. If so then they should just say it. You say there is no place for sentiment, I'm not sure I completely agree, or disagree. On the fence on that one.

    Oh and about your statement "This will never happen, not so long as she is alive, anyway." Why do you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    Oh and about your statement "This will never happen, not so long as she is alive, anyway." Why do you say that?
    Two reasons:

    1. Genuine attachment: If Lisa sells the final 15%, then that's it, game over. She would no longer be able to have executive control over anything, then Elvis' name and image will no longer be associated with any Presley, and it could be bastardised even further. She simply would not let that happen because, when all is said and done, she does love her father and wants to protect his image. Also, presumably, she would want to pass her estate onto her children.

    2. The money and financial control: Even if Lisa decided to sell it, there is no way that Cilla would let that happen. She's been sucking at the Presley teat for years, and she will want to be there sucking away until the day she carks it. Not that Cilla could ultimately stop Lisa, of course, but Cilla has her withered hands in every pie, and that's the way it will stay for a long while yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    Two reasons:

    1. Genuine attachment: If Lisa sells the final 15%, then that's it, game over. She would no longer be able to have executive control over anything, then Elvis' name and image will no longer be associated with any Presley, and it could be bastardised even further. She simply would not let that happen because, when all is said and done, she does love her father and wants to protect his image. Also, presumably, she would want to pass her estate onto her children.

    2. The money and financial control: Even if Lisa decided to sell it, there is no way that Cilla would let that happen. She's been sucking at the Presley teat for years, and she will want to be there sucking away until the day she carks it. Not that Cilla could ultimately stop Lisa, of course, but Cilla has her withered hands in every pie, and that's the way it will stay for a long while yet.


    I disgree there for the simple reason if Lisa wanted to sell graceland she would and there isn't anything her mother could do to stop her and plus priscilla not going to be around forever.
    Last edited by presley31; 08-19-2008 at 07:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presley31 View Post
    [/B]I disgree there for the simple reason if Lisa wanted to sell graceland she would and there isn't anything her mother could do to stop her and plus priscilla not going to be around forever.
    Re-read my post.

    See point 1. Her love for her father is paramount. She will not sell the rest of Graceland.

    Now see point 2, and re-read "Not that Cilla could ultimately stop Lisa, of course".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    Re-read my post.

    See point 1. Her love for her father is paramount. She will not sell the rest of Graceland.

    Now see point 2, and re-read "Not that Cilla could ultimately stop Lisa, of course".

    have you thought about when Lisa isn't here anymore? What would happen than? You can't say nothing cause we can't be 100% sure what her kids might want to do.
    Last edited by presley31; 08-19-2008 at 08:17 AM.

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    have you thought about when Lisa isn't here anymore? What would happen than? You can't say nothing cause we can't be 100% sure what her kids might want to do.
    Well, I've read a few interviews with Riley, and she makes quite a point of always talking about how she's a fan of the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, not "him."

    Maybe it will change as she gets older - and maybe Lisa's other children will be different - but I can't imagine Riley having the slightest interest in keeping Graceland or that 15% of EPE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc View Post
    Well, I've read a few interviews with Riley, and she makes quite a point of always talking about how she's a fan of the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, not "him."

    Maybe it will change as she gets older - and maybe Lisa's other children will be different - but I can't imagine Riley having the slightest interest in keeping Graceland or that 15% of EPE.
    yes l haven't heard riley talk about elvis and gracland, so me thinks she isn't really interested at all either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc View Post
    Well, I've read a few interviews with Riley, and she makes quite a point of always talking about how she's a fan of the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, not "him."

    Maybe it will change as she gets older - and maybe Lisa's other children will be different - but I can't imagine Riley having the slightest interest in keeping Graceland or that 15% of EPE.

    yeah I read interviews with Riley where she talks about liking the Rolling Stones and Zeppelin. I find that amazing considering her age I thought she would like hip hop or Gwen Stefani.

    1.I believe (regardless of what Lisa says) that one of the main reasons she sold Graceland is because she like her father is not interested in business and like her mother doesn't know anything about running the business.

    2. Riley, Ben, and Lisa's upcoming twins have never met Elvis and don't have that emotional attachment to him and are also not interested in learning the business. I saw Riley on Oprah and she asked Riley what she knew of her Grandfather and she just sat there in dead silence. I know people who are younger than Riley and I know a lot of fans who never met her grandfather but they know about his accomplishments and what he did for society and our culture. I wonder if Riley knows that without her grandfather their wouldn't be any Stones or Led Zeppelin to listen to.

    3. Getlo is right it's all about the money. Robert Sillerman is all about money and his has a reputation for making a lot of it. So when he offered Lisa something like 100 million dollars in cash and a considerable amount of stock and the prospect of expanding graceland and making even more money she took it. I expect nothing great from Mr. Sillerman though.

    p.s. I have a question I was reading on an Elvis fan site an article about Lisa from 1993 where she talks about her daughter but calls her Danielle, it's not like I heard a lot about her but up until Riley started modeling I heard Lisa refer to her as Danielle and then for her modeling career it's Riley all of a sudden.
    Did Lisa's daughter really change from being called Danielle by her family to Riley?

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    I do think the 15% will never be sold by Lisa-for the love of her father.
    As far as her selling 85% to Sillerman and Elvis becoming more a corporation I think that happened long ago. But IMO it was inevitable-nothing that grows and gets bigger can stay "close and personal" and EPE has steadily grown-and the feeling some fans got changed.
    That said I am glad Lisa and Elvis's grandkids are taken care in the style I think Elvis would have wanted-regardless of how it was done. I am a father and know that idea is paramount in my mind when I contemplate dying. I have a brain damaged 26 year old son and the thought of how he will get by when we are gone is never off my mind-so we make plans to insure he will be as self sufficient as he can be. Good caring parents (regardless of financial stature or station in life) will always want to leave kids as well off as possible.

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    Why keep it at all?? Is this a serious question? It was her father`s house.
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    I remember so well when I saw Lisa on the news saying: "we still (Lisa and her mom) have a 15%..." with a weird tone. Don't know why she sold that big part o EPE, but I got sad and didn' like it a lot. If she sells the other 15, well, I don't know think that would to getting more money... she already has lots of it. Hope she keeps running EPE. The way that enterprise is working now (with high prices for fans) is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    2. Riley, Ben, and Lisa's upcoming twins have never met Elvis and don't have that emotional attachment to him and are also not interested in learning the business. I saw Riley on Oprah and she asked Riley what she knew of her Grandfather and she just sat there in dead silence. I know people who are younger than Riley and I know a lot of fans who never met her grandfather but they know about his accomplishments and what he did for society and our culture. I wonder if Riley knows that without her grandfather their wouldn't be any Stones or Led Zeppelin to listen to.

    p.s. I have a question I was reading on an Elvis fan site an article about Lisa from 1993 where she talks about her daughter but calls her Danielle, it's not like I heard a lot about her but up until Riley started modeling I heard Lisa refer to her as Danielle and then for her modeling career it's Riley all of a sudden.
    Did Lisa's daughter really change from being called Danielle by her family to Riley?
    I saw that Oprah segment as well Brian....you sure didn't get any idea of a "personal" attachment to her Grandpa, did you?

    I am sooooo glad to know I'm not the only one who remembers Riley being "Danielle". I thought I was nuts. I remember being "amused" at Elvis having a grandchild with such a "fancy" name.

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    Yes, Riley was once Danielle! I read she was named Danielle after her father Danny! I still can`t figure this one out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight View Post
    Yes, Riley was once Danielle! I read she was named Danielle after her father Danny! I still can`t figure this one out!!
    Lisa's daughter goes by riley as a nickname when she was modeling.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iAbFcB_-a4
    Just posting for those who didn't see riley on oprah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnight View Post
    Yes, Riley was once Danielle! I read she was named Danielle after her father Danny! I still can`t figure this one out!!

    Hi midnight

    Riley is actually her middle name I just thought it was a little strange that her entire family called her Danielle until she started modeling and it's then Riley.
    I personally like the name Danielle better than Riley but if she prefers the name Riley that's what I will call her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presley31 View Post
    have you thought about when Lisa isn't here anymore? What would happen than?
    Re-read Point 1.

    "when all is said and done, she does love her father and wants to protect his image. Also, presumably, she would want to pass her estate onto her children."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    Re-read Point 1.

    "when all is said and done, she does love her father and wants to protect his image. Also, presumably, she would want to pass her estate onto her children."
    I did read what you said and left it alone and yes she will pass it down, but by the looks of it they have little interest on graceland

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