I think the Colonel is too blame for the no world tour completely.
But the thing that really interests me is that he was an illegal alien, yet he managed to get into the US army...how did that happen?
Who in your opinion is to blame?
I think after 1975, it was to late for such a thing. A world tour shouldn't have been on anyones mind, getting Elvis help and healthier should've been the main focus.
As we know Colonel was an illegal alien and he imo was afraid to leave the country because if he did he might not be able to get in because he had no passport.
If you remember, Sonny West first thought something was up with the Colonel when Elvis was in the Army and shipped to Germany Colonel was always sending him telegrams and never visited and that their they thought something was odd about it....I do feel that Colonel thought if he sent Elvis on a world tour Elvis could see how big he actually was and was affraid of loosing Elvis...same reason I feel he didn't do A Star Is Born...but then some feel Elvis really didn't want to do that because he knew he would have to get in shape and work HARD to do it.....so its confusing....
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
I think the Colonel is too blame for the no world tour completely.
But the thing that really interests me is that he was an illegal alien, yet he managed to get into the US army...how did that happen?
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I think the Colonel is too blame for the no world tour completely.
But the thing that really interests me is that he was an illegal alien, yet he managed to get into the US army...how did that happen?
I feel though like blaming parker completely for it is a tadbit unfair though.
When you think about it, Elvis was an adult, had he wanted to do a world tour bad enough he would have made the management changes he needed so that he could do so......
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
Maybe there were more people to blame the col included, has for the film role i read elvis was gutted because he didnt get the role it went to Kris Kristofferson who i believe did a fantastic job.
elvislady
I've heard that Elvis told Colonel to ask for outrageous amounts of money if he was going to be in the film so they would turn the offer down because he didn't want to do it...Maybe there were more people to blame the col included, has for the film role i read elvis was gutted because he didnt get the role it went to Kris Kristofferson who i believe did a fantastic job.
elvislady
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
I've heard that Elvis told Colonel to ask for outrageous amounts of money if he was going to be in the film so they would turn the offer down because he didn't want to do it...
I heard that the Colonel didn't want Elvis to do the role so asked for huge amounts of money do that he wouldn't be able to do it and that Elvis never knew about it
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"...you're still lovely,
you were lovely then,
all that you had to endure,
i guess nobody noticed it..."
Look's like we've heard similar stories then.I heard that the Colonel didn't want Elvis to do the role so asked for huge amounts of money do that he wouldn't be able to do it and that Elvis never knew about it
Someone who know's more specifics on these events would be great if ya could shed a little more light on what really went down on that deal !
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
Well it seems there are many stories on this subject scroll down this link to read.I've heard that Elvis told Colonel to ask for outrageous amounts of money if he was going to be in the film so they would turn the offer down because he didn't want to do it...
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/rge_astaristorm.shtml
elvislady
That was a very depressing read. Thanks for the link...Well it seems there are many stories on this subject scroll down this link to read.
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/rge_astaristorm.shtml
elvislady
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
thanks elvislady for the link...very interestingWell it seems there are many stories on this subject scroll down this link to read.
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/rge_astaristorm.shtml
elvislady
my youtube page www.youtube.com/elvispresleyuk
"...you're still lovely,
you were lovely then,
all that you had to endure,
i guess nobody noticed it..."
thanks elvislady for the link...very interesting
elvislady
Oh that's a tuff one. The Col should have organized it either after his 1969 return and definatly after the Aloha Special.
There again his lack of doing what Elvis wanted should have been the push for Elvis to dump him as his manager.
It's just sad it never happened
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Parker...
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Hi Everyone
The world Tour myth
Was not Colonel Parkers fault the United states would never deport him
Do you honestly believe that they would deport a major tax payer, elvis manager and a famous person like Colonel Parker they did not deport him when they found out he was illegal they let him stay.
Colonel Parker was one Connected man he knew 5 U.S. Presidents
numerous senators and Governors and even a couple of supreme court justices
Colonel was good friends with President Lyndon Johnson and members of his administration so he would have asked them personally to fix things up for him to go on a world tour.
You have to remember there were numerous Singers and bands that were stopped while going through airports and stopped at border crossings for carrying drugs.
Just to give one example Johnny Cash was busted while crossing the Mexican border was searched and they found legally prescribed and threw him in jail for 2 days the Colonel was worried the same thing could have happened to Elvis.
Blame Elvis drug and personal problems on never going on a world tour.
I think the Colonel has been unfairly blamed on this one issue.
It has been a pleasure talking to all of you
I hope you will read this and think about what I have said
Once again my friend its yet to be proved if its a myth IMO
WOW-how did this subject come up again?
I will just refer people to the other thread where we have been talking on this subject for my thoughts which are the opposite of yours.
The other thread is called "I need a favor from Elvislady or somene on the board"
Once again my friend its yet to be proved if its a myth IMO
WOW-how did this subject come up again?
I will just refer people to the other thread where we have been talking on this subject for my thoughts which are the opposite of yours.
The other thread is called "I need a favor from Elvislady or somene on the board"
It has been proven check that other thread
I thought I would post it again here because people were talking about it here
No offense my friend but just because someone writes about something-"titles it "The World Tour Myth" whether it is in an article, book, video etc-that does not translate into absolute proof on any given subject. IMO its suppostition and speculation. We have 2 trains of thought, (broken down into a nutshell)-its either Parkers fault for never setting it up-or its Elvis's fault for his drugs problem.
Even within the MM and others there is no total agreement on why it never happened. You have the same 2 trains of thought running there also.
If you think Parker was honest, always put Elvis first that is okay by me. I am being as respectful as I can in my honesty of how I see this. It is not something I will change my mind on-unless someone can conclusively explain why the Col never took care of his citizenship. I have agreed that if he was so well connected as you perceive him to be-it should have been a simple thing. I agree he would have never been deported-total agreement. But he never did-I have stated my 2 thoughts on why he never did so I will not restate them again. But they are both logical conclusions and they are the only 2 which IMO seem to make sense. If he had in 1958 squared his citizenship problems and gone overseas with Elvis to Germany or at least visited him-I would not have the opinion I do. But he never did-never tried. IMO it can not be proven either way-so we have 2 trains of thought-and we are on the wrong sides of that track my friend.
Hi kpm
No KPM you are missing my point
I am not saying Colonel parker was a good manager but he has been unfairly blamed on this issue. The problem a lot of Elvis fans have is they have heard that Col. illegal alien status was the reason for no world tour. you've heard it for so long you believe it. There is no way Elvis was going to get through customs with all the drugs and guns. Just because Colonel didn't get it taken care of doesn't mean he couldn't. In my life and I am sure your's to there has been many times that we have procrastinated and put things off. That's all it was Sonny says that Colonel could have gotten taken care of any time and I believe him
You're all overlooking that Parker was said to be involved in a womans death. The same time he left Breda, a woman by the name of Anna van den Enden was murdered. Though it was never proven; the story was still out there .
None of the MM knew Parker was an alien either---until much later.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
I think the Colonel and Elvis are the blame for no World tour. C'mon, their answer to that was to record a concert in Hawaii and have it aired Live only in certain parts of the world.
I read that Elvis had to backed up in a corner to do the 68 comeback special. He could have done it years before. Elvis seemed to procrastinate and also lose interest in the music business in late 1972.
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