Reply With QuoteThere's not much Sonny says that I believe.Originally Posted by Brian
There's not much Sonny says that I believe.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Me either Cameron. I take lots l read with a grain of salt.There's not much Sonny says that I believe.
And why would you believe something that someone has to say who was with Elvis for years upon years.There's not much Sonny says that I believe.
Anyhow, I don' think it would have been that easy for Parker to get a passport by just asking for it....
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
It probably would have been a heck of lot easier to get a passport back then than it is now.
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here is my last email that i got from Mrs Parker.
lol
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net
Colonel didn't go to Lyndon Johnson's inauguration, but he definitely knew him. Colonel also knew Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. President Clinton's mother was our good friend and came to our house to visit. The photo of Colonel and me, where I am holding a coffee cup, was taken at Virginia's 70th birthday party here in Las Vegas.
Please don't let people like this person upset you.......just remember, "you can't argue with dumb".
It is always good to hear from you.
Loanne
Wow thanks for that Joe very interesting...
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
She is a corker!Wow thanks for that Joe very interesting...
lol
Joe K
www.elvis2001.net
So I take it you don't believe what she has said about Parker knowing those USA Presidents??
I'm pretty sure 'ol Willy Mr Bill Clinton was an Elvis fan or still is I should say....so maybe he did know Parker...
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
Col. Jon BurrowsAnd why would you believe something that someone has to say who was with Elvis for years upon years.
Anyhow, I don' think it would have been that easy for Parker to get a passport by just asking for it....
Hi are you doing today?
It would have been that easy for Colonel Parker to get a passport
remember the Colonel was good friends with LBJ and he was also a famous person you may remember Elvis went to the White house to see president Nixon despite never having met him before he got into to see the president within 45 minutes and asked the president for what he wanted (The badge)
and got it.
I don't expect everyone to go along with what I say but I believe I can convince most people.
The problem is you and others have heard that Colonel Parker was an illegal alien and he Couldn't travel overseas and that's the reason Elvis never went on a world tour for so long you believe it. Like I have said Colonel parker was a famous man the United states would have had no problems at all with letting him leave the country and get back in. They did not deport him when they found out he was here illegally in 1981. He had been here since 1929 and paid a lot of taxes. Sonny West has gotten a bad rap over the years by fans because of the Elvis what Happened book but if you read the book the don't really say bad things about Elvis. a lot of what they wrote has been written in other books since. I think the problem with that book was that the writer Steve Dunleavy was a trashy tabloid writer and was not an Elvis fan so he wrote the book to make it seem more negative than what it was meant to be by Red, Sonny and Dave. Sonny has said everything in the book is true but it was written in a way by Steve Dunleavy to make Elvis look bad.
When they signed the deal to write the book they were assigned a writer, they didnt get to pick one themselves.
It has been very nice talking with you sir
I hope I can convince you of this
I hope I will talk with you again my friend
Hey Brian I'm doing alright this morning thank you sir !
I really don't understand then why Colonel wouldn't try and get a passport then so a world tour would be possible, maybe it was because he didn't want Elvis to realize how big he really was and thought Elvis would dump him soon as they came back from the first one...not sure on that..you know Colonel had to be aware of the HUGE amount of money they could've made on such an adventure....
As for the EWH book and Sonny, like I've said before, them guys were trying to do the right thing just went about doing it in the wrong way. I honestly believe they were trying to give Elvis a challenge to prove them wrong and show them he wasn't washed up or overweight etc, and it worked up until December 31st 1976....
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
Hi Mr. Burrows it is good to talk with youHey Brian I'm doing alright this morning thank you sir !
I really don't understand then why Colonel wouldn't try and get a passport then so a world tour would be possible, maybe it was because he didn't want Elvis to realize how big he really was and thought Elvis would dump him soon as they came back from the first one...not sure on that..you know Colonel had to be aware of the HUGE amount of money they could've made on such an adventure....
As for the EWH book and Sonny, like I've said before, them guys were trying to do the right thing just went about doing it in the wrong way. I honestly believe they were trying to give Elvis a challenge to prove them wrong and show them he wasn't washed up or overweight etc, and it worked up until December 31st 1976....
The Colonel was aware of the amount of money they could make
In the interview I posted with Sonny he says specifically that there were 3 reason for Elvis never touring the world. The pills, multiple guns that Elvis would have carried himself and the fact that Colonel didn't have any contacts abroad to get Elvis passed customs.
Sonny states in the audio interview that the Colonel could have got it taken care of any time he wanted.
I believe he just put off getting the passport thing taken care of I have and I am sure you have put things off until the last minute instead of taking care of it first thing.
It has been a pleasure talking with you again sir
Will talk with you later bye my friend
Interesting to say the least but Like Sonny West I believe had he wanted to (the Colonel That is) to have taken care of things and got a world tour ready he could've. And The drugs, that couldn't have been a problem Elvis had a Doctor traveling with him most of the time and I'm sure he would have taken Doctor Nick with him had he done a world tour and all his medicine was prescribed, and even if it wasn't I'm sure Elvis would've gotten off the non prescribed stuff long enough to do a world tour because i'm sure if he really wanted to do a world tour he would've ..
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
i am glad to see i changed your mind at least on that.So I take it you don't believe what she has said about Parker knowing those USA Presidents??
I'm pretty sure 'ol Willy Mr Bill Clinton was an Elvis fan or still is I should say....so maybe he did know Parker...
joe k
www.elvis2001.net
I have to agree with you on your opinion about Parker. The USA may notWell Brian as I said Brian we will respectfully have to disagree on this.
Sonnys comments on something which did not happen-to me are speculation.
The Col. never attempted to get citizenship-through normal avenues, or through Johnson etc....... So IMO since it never happened Sonny is guessing as to what Johnson would have done -if Col. Parker had asked him for help.-(which I stress he never did at least as far as has been reported that I can find) Parker and Elvis sent gifts to people all the time on a regular basis-so I would not find it strange that Parker sent gifts to LBJ because he sent them to many people of varying degrees of familiarity.
As I pointed out Bob Hope knew a lot of Presidents, attended state dinners with them, stayed over in the White House several times, entertained for them -but he only considered a couple as more than acquintances.
You are correct on Hawaii not being a state in 1957-but it was a US Territory so no passports were needed.
The comment on Eddy Arnold in Europe is a new one to me-I did a pretty good internet search a while back on Arnold and Snow to see if they had ever played outside the US when Parker managed each and could come up with nothing-but if you have info he did-one thing I'm sure Parker did not go with him for the tour.
So you see we disagree, you feel the illegal status is over stated and I feel if it was that simple for him to get legal status (as Sonny says) then what stopped him. I mean if for nothing else but doing the right thing and piece of mind.
You say they would not have exported Elvis Presleys manager and I agree-so why did he not just straighten it out ? In 1958 he could have straightened it out so he could visit Elvis in Germany- he did not. He was offered big money several times in the 60s for Elvis to perform, but never attempted to set it right in case an offer came that was just too much to pass on. The problem for me is why did he never do it?
See to me its common sense-when something does not make common sense to me I have to ask what was the hangup.
IMO for some reason he did not want to address this problem-the truth is he kept this part of his life pretty close to his vest for most of his life. His own family in the Netherlands thought he was dead for years and years?
Sorry my friend I just have to disagree, but you make some good points.
have deported him but maybe he was more afraid of what might have
happen to him once he set foot on European territory. Afterall there are
rumours that he was involved in murdering a woman in the Netherlands.
The other declarations (drugs etc.) don't ring very true to me.
I am also wondering would his passport be made out in his own or in his false name?
it would have been made out to the name of Tom Parker
The allegations made that he murdered a woman were just speculation on Alanna Nash part she says she found no evidence that it was just a theory of hers. That is a big allegation to make about someone and she didn't have any proof if I were her I would have left her speculating out of it as her book is interesting enough without it.
Remember Johnny Cash was busted for carrying prescribed drugs as well and just because they are legal in the U.S. doesn't mean it is legal to carry them into other countries. Frank Sinatra was also stopped going through customs
carrying pill bottles while trying to get into Austrailia. The same could have happened to Elvis very easily.
I hope I can persuade you of this Miss Clawdy
I look forward to taking with you real soon
Ok thats true but I'm sure Elvis the Colonel and Dr Nick or whoever would have sat down before the World Tour had happened and discussed all of this and I'm sure Elvis would have you know, stopped with the drugs atleast for the time being...i don't buy that the tour didn't happen because of issues with carrying drugs..thats bs imo..it comes down to Parker and his issues with being an illegal alien, and not wanting to loose that control over elvis he had simple as that.
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
[QUOTE=Col Jon Burrows;225842]Ok thats true but I'm sure Elvis the Colonel and Dr Nick or whoever would have sat down before the World Tour had happened and discussed all of this and I'm sure Elvis would have you know, stopped with the drugs atleast for the time being...i don't buy that the tour didn't happen because of issues with carrying drugs..thats bs imo..it comes down to Parker and his issues with being an illegal alien, and not wanting to loose that control over elvis he had simple as that.[/QUOTE]
agree there
Sure thing my friend...i am a very open minded person when it comes to this..you have to be I think if ever want to know the whole story...
"How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
In respect to the Nixon/Elvis meeting - Col. Parker had absolutly nothing to do with Elvis getting into see Nixon.
Vernon, Priscilla, and the Col. were totally unaware as to where he went until later.
Elvis getting in to see Nixon more than likely was luck-Nixon thought by seeing Elvis it may help his problem with young people who disliked Nixon. Nixons Chief of Staff Bob Halderman who told the President of the last minuter request was against the meeting-saw little sense in it.
Nixon is the one who gave the go ahead to Halderman-overriding Halderman. If Nixon had gotten the US out of Vietnam quicker his problems with the young protestors would have vanished-he would have most likely also been against a hastily arranged meeting with Elvis-there would have been nothing in it for Nixon (in Nixons mind anyway) Nixon was a scheduled man-old school everything done in order-so without Nixons problems in 1970 (huge problems) Elvis would have never got in IMO.
So from what I have read and heard in interviews it was Nixons problems with Vietnam-not the fame of Elvis or strings pulled- which gained Elvis his entrance.
I got my draft card in 1972 and I can tell you Nixon was not popular.
If you recall Elvis called President Carter to ask for intercession I believe for Geroge Klein in some matter. President Carter did not do so.
Presidents rarely get involved in any matters which spike of "cronyism" it almost always leads to investigations in Congress. It would be illegal for any sitting President to interfere in any legal matter-due to the separation of powers of state into 3 branches Executive, Judicial and Legislative. So by a President in the Executive Branch putting pressure on the Judicial Branch to sway the outcome of a legal matter-it would be breaking the law. It is a very risky situation with a lot to lose.
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