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    Sam Cooke

    What do you think of Sam Cooke´s death? Do you really believe that Berta Franklin shot him in self-defence or you think it was all planned as his family do?
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    I can't really say ,as I've never looked into that too deeply.
    I did get into that for a short time, but could never "pin anything down."
    Then of course, Elvis took my attention away.
    Believe Elvis thought it was a "planned hit."
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    I don't know either Donut but I'm anxious to see if other posters have anymore information on that. I sure loved his voice!

    Diane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    I don't know either Donut but I'm anxious to see if other posters have anymore information on that. I sure loved his voice!

    Diane
    Wasn't it Sam Cooke that sang These Arms of Mine? It was used in "Dirty Dancing".

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    I don't believe anyone now believes the original account of Sam Cooke's death - that he was shot in self-defense by one woman after trying to rape another.

    I think the most likely explanation is that the woman Sam went to that motel with was a hooker, that she pulled a hooker trick on him (taking his clothes, credit cards, and money and disappearing), that he was furious when he realized he'd been ripped off, and that the hotel manager (probably in on the scam) shot him in a panic when he came after her to find out where the hooker had disappeared to with his money and credit cards.

    If anyone's interested in Sam Cooke, there's a great biography of him by Daniel Wolff:

    http://www.amazon.com/You-Send-Me-Ti.../dp/0688146201

    And (Elvis connection!) Daniel Wolff also wrote a great critique of Peter Guralnick's Careless Love:

    http://livinginstereo.com/?page_id=295

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    All I've heard is that he was shot 3 times by the motel manager Berta Franklin, who claimed she acted in self-defense. She said that he sexually assaulted a 22 year old woman who ran down to the Motel's office, crying for help. He followed her and broke into the manager's, almost naked demanding to know the whereabouts of the woman who had accompanied him in the motel. She claimed that he grappled with him and they both fell on the floor. After that she ran to take her gun and fired at him 3 times, because she was scared for her life.

    This is what remained in my memory from my English lesson (we had to find more info on his life, career and death. Got the information mostly from the Internet, so you all might know this already )

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Wasn't it Sam Cooke that sang These Arms of Mine? It was used in "Dirty Dancing".
    I think that the version of "There Arms of Mine" which was used in "Dirty Dancing" is by Otis Redding (?) - That's the only version I've heard, maybe Sam sang it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc View Post
    I don't believe anyone now believes the original account of Sam Cooke's death - that he was shot in self-defense by one woman after trying to rape another.

    I think the most likely explanation is that the woman Sam went to that motel with was a hooker, that she pulled a hooker trick on him (taking his clothes, credit cards, and money and disappearing), that he was furious when he realized he'd been ripped off, and that the hotel manager (probably in on the scam) shot him in a panic when he came after her to find out where the hooker had disappeared to with his money and credit cards.
    If anyone's interested in Sam Cooke, there's a great biography of him by Daniel Wolff:

    http://www.amazon.com/You-Send-Me-Ti.../dp/0688146201

    And (Elvis connection!) Daniel Wolff also wrote a great critique of Peter Guralnick's Careless Love:

    http://livinginstereo.com/?page_id=295[/QUOTE]
    That's what I finally got out of the Sam Cooke death .

    Loved the Dan Wolff critique on Guralnicks books too.
    He says it so well .
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    I think her story is weird too. She could have shot him in a leg, an arm, you name it, but what was the need to kill him ???
    I think he was great too... and very handsome. I got Guralnik´s "Dream Boogie, the triumph of Sam Cooke", plan to read it sometime during the summer.
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