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    Moody Elvis

    I was reading Peter Guralnick book "Careless Love" last night, and it was the chapter which Elvis was insulting Kathy Westmoreland and the Sweet Inspirations on stage in 1975. I also read that Elvis held a gun to Kathy... I was kinda shocked, this wasn't the Elvis I knew. His character was changed at that time, because of the drugs I think. I stopped reading but will continue tonight.

    What do you all think of Elvis in this chapter in the book?
    "Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!".
    Groucho Marx

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    Kathy's name was mentioned to me the other day, so I looked up her website.

    Listen to this, how much Kathy adores and loves Elvis. You smile at her love and adoration, listening to her.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gFA-K-GNlKI

    "I wish the World was full of Elvis Presley's"

    **************

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bh7ZloAn6o



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    Nice clip Jess, sometimes amidst all the tragedy its nice to hear someone say something nice about Elvis.... Even Priscilla finds that hard these days

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    If that side of Elvis is new to you, I suggest you to read further more of Peter Guralnick and maybe supply your reading with 'Elvis What Happened' and 'Deat Of Elvis'. It will leave you with no doubt, that the drugs, his lifestyle, the fame changed his behaviour radical. He even became violent and trigger-happy, and its a miracle that he didnt kill anybody during his shoot-outs.

    Its been discussed a lot in this forum, but my point is still as following: You have to seperate the man from the music. There was nothing glorious to Elvis' personality the last years of his life. Its no secret anymore.

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    Like all of us, when we go through things. Elvis was human, no-one can blame him.

    Takes someone to love them, and be there, makes all the difference, has for me......
    Last edited by Merry; 06-25-2008 at 01:57 PM.

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    Anyway,

    I had to look at Inspector Clouseau after the mention of "cases", lol

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9-3HP62FM

    Admittedly, through open fingers on my face, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    Kathy's name was mentioned to me the other day, so I looked up her website.

    Listen to this, how much Kathy adores and loves Elvis. You smile at her love and adoration, listening to her.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gFA-K-GNlKI

    "I wish the World was full of Elvis Presley's"

    **************

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bh7ZloAn6o

    Makes you wonder where some of these authors get their stories that write these books.
    After "years of research. " ??
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    Nice clip Jess, sometimes amidst all the tragedy its nice to hear someone say something nice about Elvis.... Even Priscilla finds that hard these days

    Hiya JJ,

    Well, frankly, we all know how much to listen to 'Cilla and all about that.... JJ, you and I have different outlooks, too, lol. I don't think it's the case at all, about people "saying nice things about Elvis". It's only the people who sell dirt in my opinion, but we've had this conversation off, and on site, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvistcbkirch View Post
    If that side of Elvis is new to you, I suggest you to read further more of Peter Guralnick and maybe supply your reading with 'Elvis What Happened' and 'Deat Of Elvis'. It will leave you with no doubt, that the drugs, his lifestyle, the fame changed his behaviour radical. He even became violent and trigger-happy, and its a miracle that he didnt kill anybody during his shoot-outs.

    Its been discussed a lot in this forum, but my point is still as following: You have to seperate the man from the music. There was nothing glorious to Elvis' personality the last years of his life. Its no secret anymore.
    That 'bad' side is new to me, and it shocked me to be honest. I will continue with the book tonight and hope to find something positive so I can listen to his music again, right now I'm very confused and having mixed emotions about Elvis. Sure, his friends talk about his 'good' sides but he had his 'bad' sides aswell...
    "Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!".
    Groucho Marx

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    Quote Originally Posted by President Presley View Post
    I was reading Peter Guralnick book "Careless Love" last night, and it was the chapter which Elvis was insulting Kathy Westmoreland and the Sweet Inspirations on stage in 1975. I also read that Elvis held a gun to Kathy... I was kinda shocked, this wasn't the Elvis I knew. His character was changed at that time, because of the drugs I think. I stopped reading but will continue tonight.

    What do you all think of Elvis in this chapter in the book?
    Kathy wasn't going to take anything serious what elvis was saying and sometimes the drugs make people do things, but the elvis that we all know and love wouldn't be mean to anyone or make them feel low. I really enjoy the book careless love, but lets all keep in mind that elvis was human and like I us he did somethings that didn't put him in the best light, but hey he still great in my eyes no matter what he did or didn't do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron View Post
    Makes you wonder where some of these authors get their stories that write these books.
    After "years of research. " ??

    It's like black and white, Cameron, really is.

    You can't tell me, that intelligent, insightful women, beautiful women inside, too (yes, and some do speak with the fans, and are available) memories' could be so opposite to the "stories" in the "books"?

    There is a "rat" here with the telling of these "sold stories", told without compassion nor the context of the situation.

    I wasn't going to fight, but there was a discussion recently about a story someone was saying "ohh this happened". The story told from Lacker's book was a total outright lie. (I'm not arguing anymore).

    The true friends, well, who can't be drawn in by their love for Elvis, that he has so many wonderful aspects to his personality, (we all truely, have parts of our personalities we want to improve, I do) and love him for the qualities that are so important to oneself, hearing how he is as a man from their point of view? Kathy just now, Patti, the list goes on....
    Last edited by Merry; 06-25-2008 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by President Presley View Post
    That 'bad' side is new to me, and it shocked me to be honest. I will continue with the book tonight and hope to find something positive so I can listen to his music again, right now I'm very confused and having mixed emotions about Elvis. Sure, his friends talk about his 'good' sides but he had his 'bad' sides aswell...
    I think we all have good and bad sides and elvis was no different than you and me, just famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presley31 View Post
    I think we all have good and bad sides and elvis was no different than you and me, just famous.



    Hugs, Jen

    Kimmi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post

    Hugs, Jen

    Kimmi
    Back at you Kimmi

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    loved that video of kathy westmoreland so sweet.. Elvis had his off days ...but dont we all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by presley31 View Post
    I think we all have good and bad sides and elvis was no different than you and me, just famous.

    You're right, I think I was creating an ideal Elvis for myself, one without mistakes, a super-human: time to open my eyes

    thanks
    "Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!".
    Groucho Marx

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    Quote Originally Posted by President Presley View Post
    You're right, I think I was creating an ideal Elvis for myself, one without mistakes, a super-human: time to open my eyes

    thanks
    Your welcome Nope elvis wasn't perfect, but he is still loved for his fans and we are the ones who accept all the good and bad

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