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  1. 06-19-2008, 06:17 AM #41
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    The big difference between Elvis and Brittany is that Elvis didn't usually make a public spectacle of himself. I think he had two bad concerts in his lifetime where his drug intake was noticeable? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    The big difference between Elvis and Brittany is that Elvis didn't usually make a public spectacle of himself. I think he had two bad concerts in his lifetime where his drug intake was noticeable? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Unfortunatley Elvis's drug intake was noticeable at dozens upon dozens of concerts.From 1973 until the end the problems were materializing at his live shows.It was up and down in 73 and 74.Overall 75 was decent with many good shows.The wheels came off in 76.With few exceptions it was a disaster.The summer tours were horrible.He didnt fare much better in 77.Some shows better than others.Elvis was truly having a hard trime functioning at many times.Often his speaking voice was so slurred you couldnt even understand him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    The Britney from that era was real sexy and nice.... the current Britney (let's call it that way) is sad to see. I can see a resemblence between her downfall and the one from Elvis in the second half of the 70s. Only the mediaexposure now is even more (due to all the mobile and compact camera's: everyone can shoot ánd post pictures).
    And that just adds to the downfall of her imo...overexposure.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    Hey Diane
    Unfortunatley Elvis's drug intake was noticeable at dozens upon dozens of concerts.From 1973 until the end the problems were materializing at his live shows.It was up and down in 73 and 74.Overall 75 was decent with many good shows.The wheels came off in 76.With few exceptions it was a disaster.The summer tours were horrible.He didnt fare much better in 77.Some shows better than others.Elvis was truly having a hard trime functioning at many times.Often his speaking voice was so slurred you couldnt even understand him.
    Exactly...Elvis had his share of bad shows, and yes many times as Jak said it was VERY obvious that he was HIGHLY medicated.

    More than two shows i'm affraid. Here's a few from the top of my head.

    June 6th 1976 Atlanta
    August 28th 1976 the Infamous show from Houston
    September 27th-28th College Park
    June 19th 1977 Omaha
    October 5th 1974 Afternoon show In Indianapolis

    These were all very below Elvis' standards...
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977
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  5. 06-19-2008, 06:46 AM #45
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    I'm sad to hear that. I thought he'd only had a bad spell for a while in '74 and picked himself up in '75. I hadn't realized his last four years were that bad but thanks for letting me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    Exactly...Elvis had his share of bad shows, and yes many times as Jak said it was VERY obvious that he was HIGHLY medicated.

    More than two shows i'm affraid. Here's a few from the top of my head.

    June 6th 1976 Atlanta
    August 28th 1976 the Infamous show from Houston
    September 27th-28th College Park
    June 19th 1977 Omaha
    October 5th 1974 Afternoon show In Indianapolis

    These were all very below Elvis' standards...
    You can add many more to the list.The infamous Baltimore show where he had to leave and then comeback is another.The last Vegas season started out very rough.It's not just a show here or there.The drug use adversley affected his performance level from 73 on.It's not a short list.The drugs robbed him of the ability he was accustomed to just a short time prior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    You can add many more to the list.The infamous Baltimore show where he had to leave and then comeback is another.The last Vegas season started out very rough.It's not just a show here or there.The drug use adversley affected his performance level from 73 on.It's not a short list.The drugs robbed him of the ability he was accustomed to just a short time prior.
    And yet theres the story for on June 28, 1973 Elvis almost overdosed in St. Louis Mo. He appeared that night at Kiel Auditorium (I had wanted to go but could not get tickets) but Elvis researcher and author Joe Tunzi was at that performance and he said Elvis was up and it was the best performance vocally of any he ever saw Elvis give. Tunzi saw Elvis many times. So Elvis must have had some of the most amazing recuperative powers of anyone who ever performed if the story is completely true. Tunzi says there is a soundboard of the 6-28-73 St. Louis show and I sure wish they would release it-just to see what kind of shape he was in-since it is reported he almost overdosed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    And yet theres the story for on June 28, 1973 Elvis almost overdosed in St. Louis Mo. He appeared that night at Kiel Auditorium (I had wanted to go but could not get tickets) but Elvis researcher and author Joe Tunzi was at that performance and he said Elvis was up and it was the best performance vocally of any he ever saw Elvis give. Tunzi saw Elvis many times. So Elvis must have had some of the most amazing recuperative powers of anyone who ever performed if the story is completely true. Tunzi says there is a soundboard of the 6-28-73 St. Louis show and I sure wish they would release it-just to see what kind of shape he was in-since it is reported he almost overdosed.
    Personally I just know that nothing in 73 could be considerd his best effort vocally or otherwise.Just no way.Tunzii has been put to task for that statement many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    Hey Diane
    Unfortunatley Elvis's drug intake was noticeable at dozens upon dozens of concerts.From 1973 until the end the problems were materializing at his live shows.It was up and down in 73 and 74.Overall 75 was decent with many good shows.The wheels came off in 76.With few exceptions it was a disaster.The summer tours were horrible.He didnt fare much better in 77.Some shows better than others.Elvis was truly having a hard trime functioning at many times.Often his speaking voice was so slurred you couldnt even understand him.
    I know that Gail was at a REALLY bad one in Houston in August of 76.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    I know that Gail was at a REALLY bad one in Houston in August of 76.
    That would be the infamous show in Houston on August 28th 1976. Sure wish some audio would surface of that sad show....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    And yet theres the story for on June 28, 1973 Elvis almost overdosed in St. Louis Mo. He appeared that night at Kiel Auditorium (I had wanted to go but could not get tickets) but Elvis researcher and author Joe Tunzi was at that performance and he said Elvis was up and it was the best performance vocally of any he ever saw Elvis give. Tunzi saw Elvis many times. So Elvis must have had some of the most amazing recuperative powers of anyone who ever performed if the story is completely true. Tunzi says there is a soundboard of the 6-28-73 St. Louis show and I sure wish they would release it-just to see what kind of shape he was in-since it is reported he almost overdosed.
    The crazy thing is that those tour shows from the spring and summer months of 1973 were outstanding. Atlanta, Nashville, etc...I looked and theres not even an audience recording out there of the St. louis concert..another one I hope comes up some day. I will say I find many shows from this time period among Elvis' best vocally. jmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    I'm sad to hear that. I thought he'd only had a bad spell for a while in '74 and picked himself up in '75. I hadn't realized his last four years were that bad but thanks for letting me know.

    Diane
    It's funny 1973-74 had its ups and downs but for the most part 1975 was pretty **** good all the way through. Even the last Vegas engagement during the month of December of that year showed us Elvis giving great performances!! But when '76 rolled round, the wheels were coming off faster than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    Personally I just know that nothing in 73 could be considerd his best effort vocally or otherwise.Just no way.
    Not even his performance on January 14th 1973 Aloha From Hawaii
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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    I know that Gail was at a REALLY bad one in Houston in August of 76.
    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    That would be the infamous show in Houston on August 28th 1976. Sure wish some audio would surface of that sad show....

    Jak is correct. It is the August 28, 1976 show in Houston, TX where he apparently and literally didn't wake up until halfway through the show. After this, they no longer booked him to play matinee (afternoon) shows.



    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    Not even his performance on January 14th 1973 Aloha From Hawaii

    As much as I love the "Aloha" broadcast, it does have it's weak points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    After this, they no longer booked him to play matinee (afternoon) shows.
    That is incorrect.

    His last matinee show was on September 2nd 1976 in Lakeland,FL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post





    As much as I love the "Aloha" broadcast, it does have it's weak points.
    What do you see as a weak point in Aloha T?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    And yet theres the story for on June 28, 1973 Elvis almost overdosed in St. Louis Mo...
    I've read this in several places about the overdose in St. Louis. But he was still able to perform. I wonder if the overdose didn't come after the show b/c after St. Louis, he went to Atlanta, Georgia, but with a day or 2 between the shows. That particular summer of 73 was apparently a rough one for Elvis because of the noticible increase in drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    What do you see as a weak point in Aloha T?



    Ehh....basically his vocals (on some songs) are just too 'nasally" sounding ("Something", for example). I love his versions of "Trilogy" and "What Now, My Love" from Aloha, though. The main 'weak point' for me is that he was just too 'stiff' during the show and didn't move around enough.....of course, there are varying opinons on why this was...mainly due to wanting to do the best show and/or nervousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    What do you see as a weak point in Aloha T?
    I know that he was reportedly not on drugs for the shows in Hawaii (and I believe that he did clean himself up for those shows), he just didn't have the energy that he had in his prior concerts - almost a sedated performance (for lack of a better phrase) - but a drug induced sedation, just lacking the energy normally seen in his performances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    What do you see as a weak point in Aloha T?
    That's what I'm wondering...I know Elvis came in too early on the song It's Over...other wise I find the Special to be a singing clinic!!!

    I'm going to watch it and the rehearsal concert tonight!!
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