Reply With QuoteYep you can't abuse your body for all those years and expect it to be in fine shape, I think what we seen in the last years was elvis body saying enough was enough.Originally Posted by ehollier
I have no doubt, were Elvis able to return and tell us himself.
There are many that wouldn't believe him---until they asked the MM or read another book !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Yep you can't abuse your body for all those years and expect it to be in fine shape, I think what we seen in the last years was elvis body saying enough was enough.
I have never seen any evidence that Elvis had any serious medical conditions that would explain what happened.I think people are always looking for that smoking gun and it still hasnt been found after 30 years.His biggest health problem was his drug abuse and terrible lifestyle.This explains why his behaviour changed so much.It also explains why he lost his looks.The changes in Elvis the last few years were brought on by drugs.He went downhill at an alarming rate becuase of the increased drug intake.I just dont think there is any mystery.People on MB's can speculate all day long.People that never knew Elvis therefore dont have any special insight.It's all conjecture.Those around Elvis ,those who truly knew and loved him,would have filled in the blanks by know.They would want the truth known by all.The truth is none of them have ever contradicted the reason's for his demise.They have only reinforced them over the years because it's the truth.
I guess you missed a few books, jak !
Along with medical reports !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
"Long-term side effects of corticosteroid injections depend on the dose and frequency of the injections. With higher doses and frequent administration, potential side effects include thinning of the skin, easy bruising, weight gain, puffiness of the face, elevation of blood pressure, cataract formation, thinning of the bones (osteoporosis), and a rare but serious damage to the bones of the large joints (avascular necrosis)."
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
Correct.The fact Elvis was taking those painkillers is absurd.If anybody thinks he actually needed those they are fooling themselves.The stuff Elvis was taking was just as strong as hard street drugs.The people around him have stated over and over that he just liked taking them.He got hooked and then he got trapped.As stated earlier on Elvis was abusing drugs much of his adult life.
I guess you missed a few books, jak !
Along with medical reports !
I thought you didnt believe everything you readDid the MM write them?
Anyway.Elvis' known health problems like hypertension and others were seruious health issues.However,if any of you fans think he actually needed painkillers prescribed for terminally ill cancer patients youre wrong.It's time to wakeup.Elvis liked drugs because he liked being high.For what reasons I dont know.Maybe he was bored.
That's a cop- out ,IMO.You only quote things from years ago!I thought you didnt believe everything you read
Anyway.Elvis' known health problems like hypertension and others were seruious health issues.However,if any of you fans think he actually needed painkillers prescribed for terminally ill cancer patients youre wrong.It's time to wakeup.Elvis liked drugs because he liked being high.For what reasons I dont know.Maybe he was bored.
The medical reports are from doctors, more educated than any of the MM !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
It's difficult to argue with that Jak. That fact is what it is.When I had my first child I ended up having an emergency C-Section. I was in the hospital for 6 days. It was my 1st experience with liquid Demerol given with an injection. Oh my!
I remember at one point telling my hubs(about 15 min. after the shot) that I could "sure see why Elvis had chosen Demerol as one of his favorites".
No doctor in his right mind ever thought Elvis needed the painkillers he was abusing.Why cant you just admit it?I dont think anybody here,can actually believe that.
Painkillers are for chronic pain and worse yet, terminal pain. An occassional migraine would not be considered chronic pain. The residual effects of the cortisone caused him pain; however, it does not faciliate demerol and dialudid taken on a daily basis.
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
Why can't anyone look at his physical condition? And/or some of the ways he was used and taken advantage of? ! Some see only what they want to see, and place blame on only one person ! There's a whole other world of "truth" that many refuse to look at! It's your problem, I choose to not be so narrow minded !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Please, if you would be so kind, give us some specifics to support this "ways he was used and taken advantage of?" Yes, I can certainly see his physical conditions, which appear to me the results of a poor diet, no exercise, abuse of steroids, and drugs. I am not trying to smart off and would be eager to agree with you; however, I do not know the specifics of ways he was used and taken advantage.
Last edited by ehollier; 06-20-2008 at 10:37 AM.
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
This has all been discussed before. But, as Lisa says; Nobody Noticed !
Nor do they seem to care.
I do not deny Elvis abused prescription drugs . I only deny he set out to "enjoy them!" There are factors that have come out over the years no one was aware of at the time ! Nor will some admit it now !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
If I truly knew the answers to your earlier post, I would not waste my time asking again. When was this discussed. Please give me the link so I can read it and come to a more educated conclusion.
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
Maybe "discussed " wouldn't be the right word. . It was brought to others attention, but no one appreared to care .
IMO, we do a great disservice to anyone, if we don't look at the beginning of ones life before jumping to the end !
I'm busy today, but I'll try to find some of the "beginnings."
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Cameron, that would be most appreciated; however, "It was brought to others attention, but no one appreared to care . IMO, we do a great disservice to anyone, if we don't look at the beginning of ones life before jumping to the end !" doesn't support your previous statement of "ways he was used and taken advantage of?"
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"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
IMO,too light an enjoyment were those drug's effects for Elvis..not for a person at his spiritual level and needs..then again, what kind of a person we see in him(hey!Idon't mean a super hero), changes our opinions about those drug enjoyment myth..
of course it's easier to believe this story considering his profession and fame in R&R world..yet there's a complicated human with more insight,behind those images,which we can't analyse so quickly.It seems,his health issues kept secret enough to cause everyone to have their own thesis.. I know some fans would name me for my disbelief in his drug enjoyment but,not in a million years I'd blame him for what he was unhappy of..
Last edited by 4THEHEART; 06-20-2008 at 11:31 AM.
IMO, one needs to cover all his life to see what made him the way he was!
Sorry, if you didn't "get it" . The baby, child and man cannot be seperated, IMO if you want to know someone else.
There were many people that "took advantage of Elvis."
It certainly isn't hidden as well as it used to be.
Now, my appointment is here !
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Yes, you are correct Cameron in that one needs to cover all his life to see what made him the way he was. In response to that, for all of his wonderful things that he did and the empathy that we allow him, he had a pattern that he followed and repeated during life which shows that, more often that not, he choose to 'stick his head in the sand', so to speak or not handle his business in a manner that would have been beneficial to his career or truly in his best interest.
Examples would include his mother's death and the way he choose to handle it, his father's remarriage, his music career during the 60's, his movie career, his return to performing and subsequent lack of more artistic challenges, his recording career during the 70's, his relationships with each of the MM and the constant infighting, his relationship with Col. Parker, his mentality regarding his wife and other significant female relationships which all contributed to the steady and constant increase in his drug use.
Each one of these examples is stressful. No doubt he had stress, he was somewhat insecure, was, by nature, very hesitate to trust strangers (and rightfully so in some cases) and seemed to have something happening around himself at all times; however, I don't see how he ever truly handled a problem. Escape was his way out either by using drugs, women, spending money, or taking it out on those in the MM.
"More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."
John Bakke, professor emeritus
University of Memphis
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