Elvis' wedding

[SweetCaroline]

Carol, I think the "empire" waist line in dresses was in style then. I didn't think she looked pregnant in the dress but then she didn't gain much weight during her pregnancy so I don't feel competent to even guess whether she was or was not. I just have a feeling she wasn't but that doesn't help much does it?

Diane

You might be right Diane. I know the empire waist dresses were a style of the 60's. I just simply don't remember seeing any wedding dresses like that exceptPriscillas. IMHO If she was not expecting she sure could have picked a prettier dress.

I do think (at least in the beginning of their relationship) ELVIS had EVERY intention of marrying Priscilla at "some point".......but at the actually moment the wedding happened....it sure seems to me that there was some sort of PUSHING going on for some reason. Why else did ELVIS himself say that it was "a ramrod thing"....He said it himself. Even back then ...all those years ago....something seemed not quite right.

[utmom2008]

What kind of a parent lets their teenaged daughter go live with a rock star???? The kind that knows this would end up with lots of cash ONE WAY OR THE OTHER????? I think there's a name for that - isn't there????

THANK YOU!!!!! A little common sense just reared it's head.

I doubt very much anybody would stop there 18 year from living with elvis presley. Glad l wasn't pris or my parents would down crap creek without a puddle.

MOST parents would stop their 16 year old daughter from living with a rock-n-roll singer. We sure would have!!!!! And...my daughter would NOT have dated ANYONE at the age of FOURTEEN. And, NO...we would not have "been UP S*** creek without a paddle."

[MissyM]

Getlo you are going by the date she said she got pregnant. Ok so that would make her period about April 14th and due date Jan. 21. And Lisa was not overdue. Too small for that. There is no way they'd plan a wedding the week that she might have had a period! So it (period) had to be the week of the 14th. Use that date and see what you get. Yep, a Jan. due date. Hey, I never said everyone knew! It's just something I heard and kept in the back of my head for years because well, it didn't matter much. But then when the subject first came up I did the calculations and it all made sense. Oh and give me a break, what man sleeps in the same bed with a women that long and doesn't have sex with her. That's just silly. He told one of the guys that he must have slipped and not pulled out soon enough. Supposedly he said that when he found out she was pregnant so soon. Why the heck would he even say that once they were married? He jokes about her virginity! My gosh put it all togeather. He even told a relative he didn't want to go through with it. Yes, Elvis could be pushed into things but marriage. Yeh, her father called in his marker because his little girl said she thought she might be pregnant.

[SweetCaroline]

Main Entry: ramrod
Date: circa 1940
: to direct, supervise, and control

[utmom2008]

Why would you think they didn't have sex. She had an affair with her dance instructor which she admitted to finally. Saving herself for marriage...ahhh I don't think so. I hope your source isn't Cilla because she has changed her story so many times, how could anyone believe her!

Missy...why would anyone believe your stories?? The fact that you are family and your story rings clear as a bell certainly would not cause anyone to listen to you. It's so much more fun to put Elvis and Priscilla in a Harlequin Romance novel. It's a shame that Rising Son wasn't white.....then Elvis could have literally ridden up on his white horse and saved the fair damsel in distress from her ivory tower.

[cameron]

I am going to try and say this as nice as I can, by using my own family as an example .

There was never anyone that could tell so many stories to suit themselves as my family ! I remember well an uncle that divorced his wife .The next woman he married was not included in our family for many years !
Why? Because my granny swore the second wife broke up his first marriage !
Not true , as they married a few years after his divorce !
Everyone told this stupid story ,but I liked her and found out later it was BS !

There were many things like this in my family . I'm sure that's why I adopted a liberal attitude of "Live and let live." Most things are not true or greatly exaggerated , depending on their opinion of the person they're talking about !

[presley31]

I am going to try and say this as nice as I can, by using my own family as an example .

There was never anyone that could tell so many stories to suit themselves as my family ! I remember well an uncle that divorced his wife .The next woman he married was not included in our family for many years !
Why? Because my granny swore the second wife broke up his first marriage !
Not true , as they married a few years after his divorce !
Everyone told this stupid story ,but I liked her and found out later it was BS !

There were many things like this in my family . I'm sure that's why I adopted a liberal attitude of "Live and let live." Most things are not true or greatly exaggerated , depending on their opinion of the person they're talking about !

Great post cameron, just like that old saying you can't always believe what you read

[utmom2008]

Well, first my daughter is only 8 so it ain't happening at my house. But I just can't fathom such a situation that her parents were in when Elvis asked them to let Priscilla come to live in Memphis. I just can't fathom that, from a parents point of view, today.

OOhhh...you have lots of fun years ahead. I know...I have a 27 year old daughter. Give it a few years...get back with us then.

[MissyM]

Great post cameron, just like that old saying you can't always believe what you read

Well that is true but seems to me a whole lot of people argue about a whole lots of fact, based on who "they" believe.

[presley31]

Well that is true but seems to me a whole lot of people argue about a whole lots of fact, based on who "they" believe.

I like to see sources to information, not just hearsay.

[utmom2008]

Did Elvis and Pris get their clothes off the rack at Sears?

WHY did Priscilla wear such a PREGNANT looking wedding dress do you guys think? Whenever she dressed up before that day...her clothes were always stylish and showed off her lovely petite figure...but that pregnant looking wedding dress always threw me...and I think it left many people scratching their heads as to WHY THAT DRESS over the years.

Maybe Jak was right....maybe the dress really did come off the rack at Sears. I agree with your thinking Carole..my brother married in 1968, his wife would NEVER have picked out anything that unflattering. YES...the "babydoll" style was in style in 1967..just as it is again today in 2008. It just didn't show up in wedding gowns...then, or now.

[MissyM]

Well basically if it didn't come from Elvis, alot of it is heresay!

[ehollier]

OOhhh...you have lots of fun years ahead. I know...I have a 27 year old daughter. Give it a few years...get back with us then.

Thanks for the support, Miss Queen of what??? lol.....

[utmom2008]

Great post cameron, just like that old saying you can't always believe what you read

Yet everyone on this MB does!!!

[presley31]

Well basically if it didn't come from Elvis, alot of it is heresay!

yes its all heresay, but after the information we get from sources we can make our opinions about details of elvis life.

[utmom2008]

Thanks for the support, Miss Queen of what??? lol.....

After raising a head-strong daughter??? Just call me the Queen of premature grey hair!!!

[ehollier]

After raising a head-strong daughter??? Just call me the Queen of premature grey hair!!!

[utmom2008]

Careful, Missy ... your theory simply doesn't stand up to scientific fact. And unless you have inside information about Cilla's menstrual cycles, then your accusation is erroneous.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...e?OpenDocument

Length of gestation
The average length of human gestation is 280 days, or 40 weeks, from the first day of the woman’s last menstrual period. The medical term for the due date is estimated date of confinement (EDC). However, only about four per cent of women actually give birth on their EDC. There are many online pregnancy calculators (see Further information) that can tell you when your baby is due, if you type in the date of the first day of your last period.

A simple method to calculate the due date is to add seven days to the date of the first day of your last period, then add nine months. For example, if the first day of your last period was February 1, add seven days (February 8) then add nine months, for a due date of November 8.

There were exactly 276 days between May 1st, 1967 and February 1st, 1968.

http://timeanddate.com/

The idea that Cilla was a virgin on her wedding night stands up because of a) the facts presented above and b) (less provable) Elvis' attitude about the woman who was to bear his child. Elvis wanted to marry a virgin. I believe Cilla when she says that - although they did everything but the actual deed before May 1st, 1967 - she was, technically and in all other ways, a virgin.

For someone that doesn't want to go where babies pop out you are well read on your OB manual. That's a joke BTW...

[SweetCaroline]

Well basically if it didn't come from Elvis, alot of it is heresay!

I agree....and here we have Elvis saying... ON TAPE .....(not that I agree in the least with how the tape was obtained!)

"It was a ramrod type thing. I had nothing to do with it... You know, All the sudden I was married."

Well.......what possibly could this mean??? It sure is a mystery.

[Getlo]

Getlo you are going by the date she said she got pregnant. Ok so that would make her period about April 14th and due date Jan. 21. And Lisa was not overdue. Too small for that. There is no way they'd plan a wedding the week that she might have had a period!

You must be kidding. You are grasping at straws in the face of provable, scientific FACT.

The average human gestation is 280 days. From wedding night to LM's birth was 276 days. Taking into account Cilla's cycle - which I'm sure was not discussed with Elvis! - may have finished a couple or three days earlier than that ...

... all of this adds up to Cilla's story checking out. No ifs, ands or buts. The idea that she was pregnant before her wedding is pure speculation, and there is nothing to back up that theory at all.

Yes, Elvis was forced into marriage. Yes, Cilla is devious and always has been. But she did not use the pregnancy to trap him.