Elvis' wedding

[MissyM]

Well, Elvis suspected it or he wouldn't have had her followed. And he knew she wasn't a virgin. The books are written in sequence, you can't take something from the beginning and just use that part. Besides does it ever occur to people that Elvis didn't always tell the truth? Of course he didn't. But I do feel he told different people different things. I don't feel he meant to harm anyone by it. It was just his way and sometimes people couldn't tell if he was serious when he told them something too.

[TotallyInsane]

I think I read somewhere that Elvis did know 'bout Priscilla's affair with her dance teacher.....

I'm sorry folks but you guys sound like Elvis got a phone call that morning and was told get on Frank Sinatra's plane and fly to Vegas cause you're getting married this morning. Don't ask any questions - the guests are there, the clothes are there - just get your rear end to Vegas!!

Sounds pretty logical to me!! Ummmm let's see, didn't Vernon fire Red and Sonny while Elvis flew off to California?? Wouldn't it be possible he again left the dirty work for someone else to handle cause he didn't want to tell Red he wasn't invited??? Maybe Red had spoken ill of Elvis marrying Priscilla and it ticked him off???????????? If Elvis wanted Red there - HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE!!!

And, IMO, Elvis had no choice but to marry Priscilla at some point since her parents had LET HER MOVE IN WITH HIM YEARS BEFORE!!! If he had tried to back out it would have been all over for him and his career!!

[ehollier]

Well, Elvis suspected it or he wouldn't have had her followed. And he knew she wasn't a virgin. The books are written in sequence, you can't take something from the beginning and just use that part. Besides does it ever occur to people that Elvis didn't always tell the truth? Of course he didn't. But I do feel he told different people different things. I don't feel he meant to harm anyone by it. It was just his way and sometimes people couldn't tell if he was serious when he told them something too.

It was my understanding that he wasn't the one who had her followed. But maybe I'm confused. This story of Priscilla being a virgin didn't just start recently. From the very first post-death biography, that has been one thing that has remained consistent. Even with the most vicious of revealing stories, that has been one of the constant ones. There are many from his immediate who don't like her and could have spilled the beans. I find it hard to believe that this is the ONE secret that has been kept all of these years.

[SweetCaroline]

It was Pricilla herself getting impatient waiting for the wedding. One of the guys just married and she was jealous. Fearing the engagment was just a way to pacify her she told Elvis she was pregnant. Well there goes the stupid virgin story! But she wasn't. Then everyone waited for the baby to be born on it's due date but she was a no show. So everyone then knew she lied. Oldest trick in the book. Pregnancy is not 9 months. It is measured in days. Which sometimes can end up about months. Lisa was full term. So the date of conception would have been about May 11. She would have been born Jan 11, if she conceived on the wedding nite.
After Cilla turned 18 and graduated that is most likely when they started having full on sex. She said they celebrated by staying holed up in their room for days. Daa what do you think they were doing? Elvis feared statutory rape charges so he would avoid that by them waiting. Cilla just moves the time lines of her stories. It was pattern with Elvis to have a sexual marathon when he first started having sex with women. (as documented by Linda)
When the baby did not arrive on time Elvis felt betrayed.That is why there was no sex for 3 months. And the simple adjustment of her now being a mother.

Your post sure has the ring of truth to my ears Missy.

As for Elvis not inviting Red...here it is from Elvis' own mouth...from the tapes Red West SECRETLY did of his friend...

"Elvis: That wedding thing, ya know, that wedding thing. I had nothing to do with that. That was railroaded through, ah, I didn’t even know who was there. It was all in a little room bout the size of a bathroom with a Supreme Court Justice. It was in there, over and done so quick, I didn’t even realize I was married.

Red: Oh, yeah, your talking about your wedding...

Elvis: Yeah.

Red: Right, well, ya know, you don’t think about these things, but at the time, it, it, ah, once again, it’s that old, I’ve been with you, and all the sudden I was held back, and told one, That I wasn’t supposed to come in.

Elvis: I ****** that up. I could see it, I could see it back then, but, see it wasn’t my doing.

Red: Right
Elvis: Wasn’t my doing.

Red: You know, I figured that was the Colonel and...

Elvis: It was a ramrod type thing. I had nothing to do with it... You know, All the sudden I was married."

The way I figure it.... Priscilla called her Daddy and whined.....Daddy called the Colonel....the Colonel and Daddy got on Elvis's case about the situation...Elvis was just "rowing with the flow" and let the Colonel put the wedding together... and in the rush Red was left out...It sure seems so by ELVIS' own words......"It was a ramrod type thing."

[ehollier]

I'm sorry folks but you guys sound like Elvis got a phone call that morning and was told get on Frank Sinatra's plane and fly to Vegas cause you're getting married this morning. Don't ask any questions - the guests are there, the clothes are there - just get your rear end to Vegas!!

This isn't the way it is supposed to happen???? lol......if it were that easy!!!!!!!!!!

[TotallyInsane]

One has to wonder, (LET'S ASSUME FOR A MINUTE THAT THE COL. MADE ELVIS MARRY PRISCILLA), where was the Col. when Priscilla walked out and later divorced Elvis. If the Col. welded that much power in Elvis life forcing him to marry, it would seem that he would have had more control (or at least been consulted) before Priscilla left.

Just because he was there to handle the press, the press conference, etc. doesn't mean Priscilla would have had to consult with him before leaving. I don't she consulted him before sleeping with him!!!

You have a daughter right? Picture this in your mind. A famous rock and roller wants your daughter to come live with him at the age of what 15 or 16??? He begs, he tells you she's the one for him, blah blah blah. She reaches 21 and she's still single living with the man!! Guess you're not ever gonna mention that to him when you're around him?

What kind of a parent lets their teenaged daughter go live with a rock star???? The kind that knows this would end up with lots of cash ONE WAY OR THE OTHER????? I think there's a name for that - isn't there????

[presley31]

I doubt very much anybody would stop there 18 year from living with elvis presley. Glad l wasn't pris or my parents would down crap creek without a puddle.

[ehollier]

One has to wonder, (LET'S ASSUME FOR A MINUTE THAT THE COL. MADE ELVIS MARRY PRISCILLA), where was the Col. when Priscilla walked out and later divorced Elvis. If the Col. welded that much power in Elvis life forcing him to marry, it would seem that he would have had more control (or at least been consulted) before Priscilla left.

Just because he was there to handle the press, the press conference, etc. doesn't mean Priscilla would have had to consult with him before leaving. I don't she consulted him before sleeping with him!!!

You have a daughter right? Picture this in your mind. A famous rock and roller wants your daughter to come live with him at the age of what 15 or 16??? He begs, he tells you she's the one for him, blah blah blah. She reaches 21 and she's still single living with the man!! Guess you're not ever gonna mention that to him when you're around him?

What kind of a parent lets their teenaged daughter go live with a rock star???? The kind that knows this would end up with lots of cash ONE WAY OR THE OTHER????? I think there's a name for that - isn't there????

I don't doubt that her parents weren't wondering when they would marry since they had been lead to believe that they would. I just have a hard time believing that Elvis was FORCED to marry Priscilla.

As far as my daughter being allowed to do what Priscilla did, I just don't see how that situation could happen. Her parents said he gave them money. I am sure that he did b/c he was trying to get her here, but I don't think he would have tried so hard if he really didn't want to marry her.

[MissyM]

Then you haven't read enough books E-hollier, because no that has not been consistant through out time. Never was not even by Elvis who told people that "he entered" Cilla when they were in Germany.

[TotallyInsane]

You saying that situation wouldn't happen cause you wouldn't let it happen or no rock star would want your daughter?

[ehollier]

Then you haven't read enough books E-hollier, because no that has not been consistant through out time. Never was not even by Elvis who told people that "he entered" Cilla when they were in Germany.

Missy, I've read enough books to know that stories about Elvis' life aren't always consistent. I realize that their are people that say things that aren't true to benefit themselves. If they were, why would we be having any of these debates about things from his life. However, this story of Priscilla being pregnant seems like the one story that seems not to have escaped everyone's lips. Don't you think they could reap lots of hell on Priscilla if just one of the MM comes forward with this story about a pregnancy that wasn't. In your earlier post, you said that everyone knew. Well, they have really kept their lips sealed on this juicy piece of knowledge.

[ehollier]

You saying that situation wouldn't happen cause you wouldn't let it happen or no rock star would want your daughter?

Well, first my daughter is only 8 so it ain't happening at my house. But I just can't fathom such a situation that her parents were in when Elvis asked them to let Priscilla come to live in Memphis. I just can't fathom that, from a parents point of view, today.

[jak]

I'm sorry folks but you guys sound like Elvis got a phone call that morning and was told get on Frank Sinatra's plane and fly to Vegas cause you're getting married this morning. Don't ask any questions - the guests are there, the clothes are there - just get your rear end to Vegas!!

Sounds pretty logical to me!! Ummmm let's see, didn't Vernon fire Red and Sonny while Elvis flew off to California?? Wouldn't it be possible he again left the dirty work for someone else to handle cause he didn't want to tell Red he wasn't invited??? Maybe Red had spoken ill of Elvis marrying Priscilla and it ticked him off???????????? If Elvis wanted Red there - HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE!!!

And, IMO, Elvis had no choice but to marry Priscilla at some point since her parents had LET HER MOVE IN WITH HIM YEARS BEFORE!!! If he had tried to back out it would have been all over for him and his career!!

Thank you so much for this post.Great minds think alike

[presley31]

well l guess its a good thing that priscilla got her own way or she might of been swiming with the ducks

BTW jak its nice to see you on these threads again.

[Getlo]

It was Pricilla herself getting impatient waiting for the wedding. One of the guys just married and she was jealous. Fearing the engagment was just a way to pacify her she told Elvis she was pregnant. Well there goes the stupid virgin story! But she wasn't. Pregnancy is not 9 months. It is measured in days.

Careful, Missy ... your theory simply doesn't stand up to scientific fact. And unless you have inside information about Cilla's menstrual cycles, then your accusation is erroneous.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...e?OpenDocument

Length of gestation
The average length of human gestation is 280 days, or 40 weeks, from the first day of the woman’s last menstrual period. The medical term for the due date is estimated date of confinement (EDC). However, only about four per cent of women actually give birth on their EDC. There are many online pregnancy calculators (see Further information) that can tell you when your baby is due, if you type in the date of the first day of your last period.

A simple method to calculate the due date is to add seven days to the date of the first day of your last period, then add nine months. For example, if the first day of your last period was February 1, add seven days (February 8) then add nine months, for a due date of November 8.

There were exactly 276 days between May 1st, 1967 and February 1st, 1968.

http://timeanddate.com/

The idea that Cilla was a virgin on her wedding night stands up because of a) the facts presented above and b) (less provable) Elvis' attitude about the woman who was to bear his child. Elvis wanted to marry a virgin. I believe Cilla when she says that - although they did everything but the actual deed before May 1st, 1967 - she was, technically and in all other ways, a virgin.

[TotallyInsane]

well l guess its a good thing that priscilla got her own way or she might of been swiming with the ducks

BTW jak its nice to see you on these threads again.

From what I can tell, her and The Peabody Ducks have it made in the shade!!!!

[jak]

well l guess its a good thing that priscilla got her own way or she might of been swiming with the ducks

BTW jak its nice to see you on these threads again.

Thank you.It's good to be back on such lively discussions.

BTW I love the wolves.Very nice.

[SweetCaroline]

It was Pricilla herself getting impatient waiting for the wedding. One of the guys just married and she was jealous. Fearing the engagment was just a way to pacify her she told Elvis she was pregnant. Well there goes the stupid virgin story! But she wasn't. Then everyone waited for the baby to be born on it's due date but she was a no show. So everyone then knew she lied. Oldest trick in the book. Pregnancy is not 9 months. It is measured in days. Which sometimes can end up about months. Lisa was full term. So the date of conception would have been about May 11. She would have been born Jan 11, if she conceived on the wedding nite.
After Cilla turned 18 and graduated that is most likely when they started having full on sex. She said they celebrated by staying holed up in their room for days. Daa what do you think they were doing? Elvis feared statutory rape charges so he would avoid that by them waiting. Cilla just moves the time lines of her stories. It was pattern with Elvis to have a sexual marathon when he first started having sex with women. (as documented by Linda)
When the baby did not arrive on time Elvis felt betrayed.That is why there was no sex for 3 months. And the simple adjustment of her now being a mother.

Missy, I am curious and hope you can speak about it .....is this the story you post..... the story that has been heard by and around the Smith family?

My other question is just thrown out there but not specific to you. WHY did Priscilla wear such a PREGNANT looking wedding dress do you guys think? Whenever she dressed up before that day...her clothes were always stylish and showed off her lovely petite figure...but that pregnant looking wedding dress always threw me...and I think it left many people scratching their heads as to WHY THAT DRESS over the years.

[Diane]

Carol, I think the "empire" waist line in dresses was in style then. I didn't think she looked pregnant in the dress but then she didn't gain much weight during her pregnancy so I don't feel competent to even guess whether she was or was not. I just have a feeling she wasn't but that doesn't help much does it?

Diane

[cameron]

Careful, Missy ... your theory simply doesn't stand up to scientific fact. And unless you have inside information about Cilla's menstrual cycles, then your accusation is erroneous.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...e?OpenDocument

Length of gestation
The average length of human gestation is 280 days, or 40 weeks, from the first day of the woman’s last menstrual period. The medical term for the due date is estimated date of confinement (EDC). However, only about four per cent of women actually give birth on their EDC. There are many online pregnancy calculators (see Further information) that can tell you when your baby is due, if you type in the date of the first day of your last period.

A simple method to calculate the due date is to add seven days to the date of the first day of your last period, then add nine months. For example, if the first day of your last period was February 1, add seven days (February 8) then add nine months, for a due date of November 8.

There were exactly 276 days between May 1st, 1967 and February 1st, 1968.

http://timeanddate.com/

The idea that Cilla was a virgin on her wedding night stands up because of a) the facts presented above and b) (less provable) Elvis' attitude about the woman who was to bear his child. Elvis wanted to marry a virgin. I believe Cilla when she says that - although they did everything but the actual deed before May 1st, 1967 - she was, technically and in all other ways, a virgin.

Why do I agree with you ? Because all you've said is true !
I worked OB for several years --about 5 ! From birth to death !
I also tend to believe that Elvis did have this thing about keeping her a virgin!
Yes, I believe they did do everything else , but the final act was left to the wedding night !