August 1977 Tour #6

[elvisville]

Any song was possible.Some just were not likely.The two you mentioned were classics that Elvis actually enjoyed performing.There is not one snippet of audio of Elvis ever even playing around with One Sided.For Elvis to have added any new songs he would have had to rehearsed.Im not so sure that was even possible in 77.Elvis gave that up long before 77.One of the reasons he didnt toss knew stuff in his shows was he didnt want to rehearse.Hence the same show basically night after night.

i agree with you to a point, but he did have a bash at Return To Sender, Crying In The Chapel and probably a few others without having rehearsed them

[Jungleroom76]

I was the exception of course..I would have done wonders for Elvis. He has NO idea what he missed!!!

Hmmmm....a whole lot of T-R-O-U-B-L-E???

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

In 1978 I met Billy Smith in Philadelphia. We talked about this tour which never was. He told me that Elvis had been rehearsing with Charlie Hodge "One Sided Love Affair," "Way Down," and "A Mess of Blues" to be included on that particular tour.
Several years later Charlie Hodge confirmed that when I met him for the first time. A local radio personality whom I know, who worked with the Elvis show in the later 1970's, confirmed that Elvis was intending to use "That's All Right, Mama" as an opener on occassion.

Hope this helps.

IM

Actually now that you mention it IM, I do believe I remember hearing that Elvis was considering A MESS OF BLUES also!

That is very interesting information IM....thanks for sharing it!!

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

Not to get too far off-topic but....Vernon initially began the 'bone cancer' myth....and Charlie & Dick Grob & Kathy Westmoreland have continued that myth for nearly thirty-one years.

GOOD POINT TONY!!!

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

I think you'll find Kathy was corrected here . And, why it was told..
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...14/lkl.01.html

True, Kathy was corrected....by Marty Lacker of all people!!! And I have to say that over the years, Marty's versions of stories haven't all exactly been very accurate either...

Kathy remains steadfast that Elvis himself told her he had bone cancer. Now whether that is true or not, we'll probably never know. But just because Marty Lacker tells Kathy that it's not true...well while I don't believe Elvis had it, I'm certainly not going to say he definitely didn't have it just because Marty said so!!

TCB!
Mike

[Jungleroom76]

One Sided Love Affair would have been a very obscure choice... Mind you it wasn't above Elvis to pull something obscure out of the hat. I truly like Charlie, if ever there was a person who protected and TCB'ed it was Charlie

I suppose set lists aren't above speculation, even from those closest to Elvis

AGREED J.J.!!!

While I do believe that Charlie sometimes gave himself a little too much credit, I do know that Elvis' stage show ran much smoother because Charlie handled a lot of it! And I agree with you that Charlie probably did more TCB'ing than most of the guys around Elvis ever did!!!

TCB!
Mike

[Getlo]

I can only hope that a few here have missed my candor.

I certainly have, anyway.

Welcome back!

[Getlo]

If you apply that logic,you must believe everything else told by the MM as well?

Excellent point.

[rickb]

Mess of the Blues would have been a great choice

[utmom2008]

Hmmmm....a whole lot of T-R-O-U-B-L-E???

TCB!
Mike

Yes, I would have given him lots of T-R-O-U-B-L-E. Especially after he and I were A-L-O-N-E.

[Jungleroom76]

Yes, I would have given him lots of T-R-O-U-B-L-E. Especially after he and I were A-L-O-N-E.

I have NO DOUBT Rosanne!!!

TCB!
Mike

[rmk101]

I think Charlie may have had a faulty memory.I just cant see Elvis pulling out that song in 77.There is just no way that song would make the setlist.The whole notion is absurd.

That might seem absurd, but Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel was getting old, at that could have taken place.

[Jungleroom76]

That might seem absurd, but Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel was getting old, at that could have taken place.

Remember though....Elvis tried changing his set list a couple of different times and was met with less than an enthusiastic audience because of it.

My guess is, Elvis knew why the fans were there....they wanted to hear him sing HOUND DOG, TEDDY BEAR/DON'T BE CRUEL, etc. even if it was the millionth time he had performed it! Elvis loved his fans and wanted to please them, and if it meant singing those songs each and every night, he was going to do it for them! Now that is not to say he couldn't have experimented with TEDDY BEAR/DON'T BE CRUEL a little, like he did with HOUND DOG back in the early 70's when he slowed it down and gave it a bluesier feel. But I doubt he could have ever gotten rid of them completely from his song lineup!

TCB!
Mike

[littlesister3]

I agree! Mess of Blues would have been great!
I don't see One- Sided Love Affair being to far out there, didn't he bring back My Baby Left Me a couple times in '74? Why not bring back One-Sided Love Affair? I think it could have been an interesting change to the set list.

[jak]

When playing the what if game with Elvis concert setlist you cannot think like a fan if you want to be realistic.Most comments here are coming from the perspective of a fan.I kinda like Bossa Nova Baby,but I seriously doubt Mr Presley was going to include it either.All one has to do is study where he was musically to understand that One Sided is so far out in left field for inclusion.Im guessing not a single member in his band could have played it.Was Elvis scheduled to rehearse?Didnt he die just before embarking on the tour?

[Unchained Melody]

Like Jak and othes said, I seriously doubt Elvis was going to put the song in his live repitore, he probably didn't even remember the lyrics to this song in 1977.

[Unchained Melody]

If you apply that logic,you must believe everything else told by the MM as well?

You raise a very good point here though.

If your going to have the mindset, then it should apply all the way around. I mean Red and Sonny were with Elvis about as much as Charlie was but yet we always deny the stories they tell. Is it because we don't want to know the truth, so we throw the they betrayed Elvis card. It goes both ways.