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    I sure would have liked to have heard what he would have done with One Sided Love Affair in 77, don't know whether he could have pulled that one off or not, maybe if he was in good spirits he could have done that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_ethan View Post
    Elvis Sessions III Joseph A.Tunzi
    Right Ethan! When Joe Tunzi released his recent book ELVIS SESSIONS III, he included a bonus CD containing the songs on it that Elvis was considering for the January '77 Nashville sessions, as performed by the original artists:

    - That's What You Do To me
    - Energy
    - Rainy Night In Georgia
    - By Day By Day
    - Let Me On
    - Yes I Do

    As for the other 2 songs (Mustang Wine & Miss Misunderstood), those were strictly rumors and not very accurate ones as far as I know.

    And yes, though Elvis made it as far as the motel in Nashville before cancelling the session claiming throat problems, the real reason Elvis wouldn't go into the recording studio is because he and Ginger had a big argument before he left Memphis because she wouldn't travel to Nashville with him.

    So yes, Rosanne, unfortunately we fans missed out on a potential new album just because Ginger refused to come to Nashville with him!!! I mean certainly Elvis might have come up with another excuse to not record had Ginger accompanied him on the trip, but we'll never know that for sure....as it stands forever in Elvis history, no Ginger = no new recordings!!

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    mustang wine was an accurate rumour.
    The song's writer Steve Earle has confirmed that he wrote it for Elvis and submitted it to him and it was slated for recording
    too bad it didn';t happen

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    Thanks for the info. Rick!!

    I did not know that....very interesting!!!

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    In 1978 I met Billy Smith in Philadelphia. We talked about this tour which never was. He told me that Elvis had been rehearsing with Charlie Hodge "One Sided Love Affair," "Way Down," and "A Mess of Blues" to be included on that particular tour.
    Several years later Charlie Hodge confirmed that when I met him for the first time. A local radio personality whom I know, who worked with the Elvis show in the later 1970's, confirmed that Elvis was intending to use "That's All Right, Mama" as an opener on occassion.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungleroom76 View Post

    So yes, Rosanne, unfortunately we fans missed out on a potential new album just because Ginger refused to come to Nashville with him!!! I mean certainly Elvis might have come up with another excuse to not record had Ginger accompanied him on the trip, but we'll never know that for sure....as it stands forever in Elvis history, no Ginger = no new recordings!!
    A woman can bring a man down every time! At least that's what I try to tell my son....don't get side-tracked until that law degree is in hand.
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    I guess you can say Ginger was very moody? LOL To me its very hard to believe that she was cause of cancelled to go to studio. Gotta remember his relationship just started with her at the time and they just got back from trip in mountains if I remember right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM4Elvis View Post
    In 1978 I met Billy Smith in Philadelphia. We talked about this tour which never was. He told me that Elvis had been rehearsing with Charlie Hodge "One Sided Love Affair," "Way Down," and "A Mess of Blues" to be included on that particular tour.
    Several years later Charlie Hodge confirmed that when I met him for the first time. A local radio personality whom I know, who worked with the Elvis show in the later 1970's, confirmed that Elvis was intending to use "That's All Right, Mama" as an opener on occassion.

    Hope this helps.

    IM
    Thanks, this helped a lot.
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    Are we saying that Elvis had turned into such a weenie that he cancelled recording just because Ginger wouldn't go? That's not the ELvis we know. And of course he said she was his only inspiration, he was trying to impress her to get her to do what he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRITTERGITTER View Post
    Are we saying that Elvis had turned into such a weenie that he cancelled recording just because Ginger wouldn't go? That's not the ELvis we know.

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    Elvis cancelled the session for the simple fact he just didnt care anymore.His desire to record any new material had been on the wane for several years.He just didnt put forth any effort anymore.His career was at a true standstill by 77 and Elvis just sat back and was oblivious to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_ethan View Post
    Source for " One Sided Love Affair " from Charlie Hodge Himself
    I think Charlie may have had a faulty memory.I just cant see Elvis pulling out that song in 77.There is just no way that song would make the setlist.The whole notion is absurd.

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    In all due respect, Charlie's comments are hardly faulty. I posted in my comments earlier that Billy Smith confirmed this to me in a face-to-face conversation I had with him in 1978 and was later confirmed by Charlie in a conversation I had with him, and even by another worker of Elvis. When you think about "One Sided Love Affair" it potentially could have been a good concert number.

    I will continue to base my conclusion on this song upon the solid foundation of three people who knew and worked with Elvis.

    IM

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    I dont doubt those people made those comments about the song.Charlie also said Elvis had bone cancer.Looking at where Elvis was at in 77 I just cant believe that story.No way no how.I jus tcant see him looking back at his career and picking out that sound for his setlist.I think No Room To Rhumba had as much chance as making the setlist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    Charlie also said Elvis had bone cancer.
    Why did Charlie decide to tell that story?? OT.....it's great to see you stranger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Why did Charlie decide to tell that story??

    Not to get too far off-topic but....Vernon initially began the 'bone cancer' myth....and Charlie & Dick Grob & Kathy Westmoreland have continued that myth for nearly thirty-one years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM4Elvis View Post
    In all due respect, Charlie's comments are hardly faulty. I posted in my comments earlier that Billy Smith confirmed this to me in a face-to-face conversation I had with him in 1978 and was later confirmed by Charlie in a conversation I had with him, and even by another worker of Elvis. When you think about "One Sided Love Affair" it potentially could have been a good concert number.

    I will continue to base my conclusion on this song upon the solid foundation of three people who knew and worked with Elvis.

    IM
    I think I will listen to what Charlie said too.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Not to get too far off-topic but....Vernon initially began the 'bone cancer' myth....and Charlie & Dick Grob & Kathy Westmoreland have continued that myth for nearly thirty-one years.
    I think you'll find Kathy was corrected here . And, why it was told..
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...14/lkl.01.html
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Why did Charlie decide to tell that story?? OT.....it's great to see you stranger!
    People believe what they want to believe.Especially when it comes to Elvis.I think many want to believe that story because it makes Elvis more sympathetic in their eyes.Elvis did not have cancer of course.I brought that up because it shows you have to take everything with a grain of salt.Even with somebody like Charlie.I find the notion that Elvis would even consider that song for his lineup totally unbelievable.Charlie probably told Billy that or the other way around.Elvis had turned his back on the older material long before 77.To pick an obscurity like One Sided is absurd.Charlie probably wished Elvis would have done it.IMO Elvis would have balked at the mention of it.
    Last edited by jak; 06-06-2008 at 05:48 PM.

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