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    Elvis and the truth

    Here is a good question about elvis and the people in it If we can't trust anybody in elvis life who do we trust?? We say that the memphs mafia and priscilla and others all tell lies, but really how can we know what is lies and what are turth?? We all have seen lies written in interviews and stories. I can't say that everything out that is a totel lie cause l wasn't there and l didn't live elvis life in and out everyday. so l guess what the big question is WHO do we trust to give us the right answers regrading elvis and all that stuff that has been stated about him time and time again.
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    Some fans - many on here - are in the habit of automatically dismissing as "lies" anything that might portray Elvis in a negative light.

    I prefer to trust people who were there and spent time with Elvis.
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    I've learned to not trust anyone. IF that's the "right "terminology.
    IMO, it's best to try and get the "facts" you can prove and trust yourself.
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by presley31 View Post
    Here is a good question about elvis and the people in it If we can't trust anybody in elvis life who do we trust?? We say that the memphs mafia and priscilla and others all tell lies, but really how can we know what is lies and what are turth?? We all have seen lies written in interviews and stories. I can't say that everything out that is a totel lie cause l wasn't there and l didn't live elvis life in and out everyday. so l guess what the big question is WHO do we trust to give us the right answers regrading elvis and all that stuff that has been stated about him time and time again.
    I believe that we have to make educated guess or presumption based when you read things about his life based on the sources of those stories and whether or not the stories are corroborated and the core facts that are concrete. Elvis began his career over 60!! years ago and lived a fast, hard life over the next 20 years and and its been over 30 years since he died. Lets face it, who can remember everything and just as with most stories, as they are told and retold, they seem to take a life of their own and they are magnified 10 fold. I don't doubt that each member of the MM and Priscilla would like to make history kinder and more attractive or tell what the public wants to hear, so we have to just make an educated guess at what we choose to believe. Some like the MM, and formed opinions of them. Others don't like the MM and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of them. Some like Priscilla and have and formed opinions of her. Others don't like her and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of her. Who you choose to like or dislike doesn't make you wrong or mistaken because its an opinion. Thread and sites like this one are for us to share our 'opinions' with others so that we are able to make better educated guess or be entertained. Above all, we should respect each others opinions.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    I believe that we have to make educated guess or presumption based when you read things about his life based on the sources of those stories and whether or not the stories are corroborated and the core facts that are concrete. Elvis began his career over 60!! years ago and lived a fast, hard life over the next 20 years and and its been over 30 years since he died. Lets face it, who can remember everything and just as with most stories, as they are told and retold, they seem to take a life of their own and they are magnified 10 fold. I don't doubt that each member of the MM and Priscilla would like to make history kinder and more attractive or tell what the public wants to hear, so we have to just make an educated guess at what we choose to believe. Some like the MM, and formed opinions of them. Others don't like the MM and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of them. Some like Priscilla and have and formed opinions of her. Others don't like her and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of her. Who you choose to like or dislike doesn't make you wrong or mistaken because its an opinion. Thread and sites like this one are for us to share our 'opinions' with others so that we are able to make better educated guess or be entertained. Above all, we should respect each others opinions.
    Good post and l agree too

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    I donīt have to believe or not believe anyone because there are many facts out there for all to see and if you are a little objective and you donīt take parts itīs easy to realise what is true and what fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    I believe that we have to make educated guess or presumption based when you read things about his life based on the sources of those stories and whether or not the stories are corroborated and the core facts that are concrete. Elvis began his career over 60!! years ago and lived a fast, hard life over the next 20 years and and its been over 30 years since he died. Lets face it, who can remember everything and just as with most stories, as they are told and retold, they seem to take a life of their own and they are magnified 10 fold. I don't doubt that each member of the MM and Priscilla would like to make history kinder and more attractive or tell what the public wants to hear, so we have to just make an educated guess at what we choose to believe. Some like the MM, and formed opinions of them. Others don't like the MM and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of them. Some like Priscilla and have and formed opinions of her. Others don't like her and have formed equally, but opposite opinions of each of her. Who you choose to like or dislike doesn't make you wrong or mistaken because its an opinion. Thread and sites like this one are for us to share our 'opinions' with others so that we are able to make better educated guess or be entertained. Above all, we should respect each others opinions.
    Well said

    I think each fan chooses what to believe and what not to believe. We form our own opinions about each and everyone in the Elvis world and that's why everyone loves Elvis in their own way

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    great thread Jen! You are so right - we can't dismiss everything as being "not true" - after hearing stories over the years I think it's getting easier to pick out what's real and what's not. Even if the story is a bit different depending on who told it - you know that it happened and you are getting points of views from others perspective.

    Then you have others like the Stanley's - that you just can't believe hardly a word they say.....and other "family" members who come out with books, etc.

    I prefer sticking with the MM and Priscilla and sometimes read between the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    Some fans - many on here - are in the habit of automatically dismissing as "lies" anything that might portray Elvis in a negative light.

    I prefer to trust people who were there and spent time with Elvis.


    Bingo! It's too bad that some people don't look at it the same way. They were there....none of us were and we don't have any clue (as much as we'd like to think we do) of what it was like to be around Elvis and the almost constant pressure they were under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Bingo! It's too bad that some people don't look at it the same way. They were there....none of us were and we don't have any clue (as much as we'd like to think we do) of what it was like to be around Elvis and the almost constant pressure they were under.
    Well, if they were "under such pressure" they should have quit.
    I would have .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron View Post
    Well, if they were "under such pressure" they should have quit.
    I would have .
    And infact, a lot of them did. Priscilla, Lamar, Sonny, Marty and many more. Not that it was easy, but they quit. And thats a fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvistcbkirch View Post
    And infact, a lot of them did. Priscilla, Lamar, Sonny, Marty and many more. Not that it was easy, but they quit. And thats a fact...
    Really? I thought some of these people were fired.
    Well, what do I know ? Carry on ,I've grown tired of all the BS.
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    ehollier, Elvis began his career in 1954. Which makes it 54 years ago. Sixty years ago was in 1948..Elvis wouldve been 13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john carpenter View Post
    ehollier, Elvis began his career in 1954. Which makes it 54 years ago. Sixty years ago was in 1948..Elvis wouldve been 13.
    Well, Mr. Carpenter, thank you so very much for pointing that out. But I don't think it changes anything that I said in my post. I really don't think a mere 6 less years would make anyone remember many more details than if it were 60 years. However, thank you for pointing out my error.
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    Turth ... What it is ? I thing, that really turth to know only ELVIS !!!!!!
    We love HIM and I thing it's no matter what look TURTH .
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    Quote Originally Posted by john carpenter View Post
    ehollier, Elvis began his career in 1954. Which makes it 54 years ago. Sixty years ago was in 1948..Elvis wouldve been 13.
    I was about to ask that question as well.Elvis started his career at 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    I was about to ask that question as well.Elvis started his career at 12?
    My apologies if I mislead everyone here by saying Elvis had been in the spotlight for 60 years. It was not my intention. However, A mere 6 years difference won't change the fact that much much time has passed.
    "More people today should see him not simply as a performer, but as an artist with a great soul."

    John Bakke, professor emeritus
    University of Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehollier View Post
    My apologies if I mislead everyone here by saying Elvis had been in the spotlight for 60 years. It was not my intention. However, A mere 6 years difference won't change the fact that much much time has passed.
    Don't get your knickers in a knot. I thought it was funny...I could get a visual on a 12 year old Elvis working on his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Don't get your knickers in a knot. I thought it was funny...I could get a visual on a 12 year old Elvis working on his career.

    Uh Oh....then would the lyrics of certain songs have to be changed???? "You ain't nothing but a hound-pup" doesn't exactly sound right to me....

    Daddy, I miss you more every day. You will always be my hero..

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