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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSeeRider777 View Post
    If Elvis would have made A Star is Born, that would have re -energized Elvis, because he would have got himself back into shape to do that role and he would not have died on Aug 16, 1977. IMO
    I think the same thing, because it was apparent he was getting burned out by the time this role was offered to him.

    And leave it to the bloody Colonel Tom Parker to ruin something else!!
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Great deal Bradley! Those are 2 of the best books around, you will enjoy both of them I promise.
    I certainly look forward to reading them!!

    Need to finish Peter Gurlanick's set of books first
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
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    Originally Posted by Frankieg
    Elvis Presley died from an addiction to prescribed medication for many years he had no business abusing in the first place.

    It's called polypharmacy.

    no more, no less. "


    Maybe - but have a heart for a minute and wonder why Elvis got caught in the spiral of drugs. There wasn't the support and recognition of depression as an illness in the 1970s and he clearly was under pressures that most of us will never experience.
    I'm on anti-depressants. There you go!
    Does that make me a "drug addict"? Probably, because i get dizzy if i don't take my tablets but they are only a small dose and as my doctor says `what makes you right, keeps you right' when i ask to go off them.
    At one stage i was regularly taking sleeping medication as well but it was partly recognising the downward spiral of Elvis that helped me get off them.
    So all you high and mighty people who have never taken a pill or a joint or a glass of alcohol think for a minute before you cast your stones.
    Sorry if i've ranted but as an Elvis fan i have an understanding and compassion for what he went through.
    Rick
    Who in the hell do you think you are telling me to have a heart when it comes to Elvis ?

    I have been an Elvis fan all of my life, have collected all his records, tapes, cd's, mags, pix, you name it, I have devoted a great deal of my life, time and mad amounts of hard earned cash to the man and I probably know more about his life and music than 1/2 the people on this message board, so don't you go on a high horse kick and tell me to have a heart when it comes to Elvis.

    I know all about all different kinds of drugs and their effects and have studied them for the better part of 15 years. There was/is no proof, whatsoever that Elvis needed, {the objective word here}, to take Demerol shots or Dilaudid tabs.

    Do you know what these drugs are ? What they can do to you ?

    Do you know the difference between narcotics and anti-depressant drugs ?

    Apparently not, or you wouldn't be posting such naive and erroneous statements.

    And tell me, just what kinds of pressures did Elvis have that he could not have worked out or worked on that the average, hard working labor joe doesn't have in his daily life ?

    Did Elvis have to get up in the morning to go to work, say a 10-15 hour work day just to make ends meet ?

    Worry about having to support his family and health care when you have barely enough to pay for groceries at the end of the week ?

    Sure, he had problems and pressures, we all do, but, your right, he was Elvis and he was human, he was also more fortunate to have fame and fortune beyond recognition.

    you, my friend, seem to live in a very naive state of mind in your childish assertions when it comes to actuality and reality.

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    ^ Well said Sir.
    "When I was a child, ladies and gentlemen, I was a dreamer. I read comic books, and I was a hero in the movie. So every dream that I ever dreamed has come true a hundred times. I learned very early in life that without a song, the day would never end; without a song, a man ain't got a friend; without a song, the road would never bend; without a song. So I keep singing a song." - Elvis Presley

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSeeRider777 View Post
    ^ Well said Sir.

    Thank You.

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    Speaking of high horses, I think you need to calm down and get off your's, Frankieg.
    I maintain that the pressures of `being Elvis' are something that you or I will never fully understand and as fans we should show some compassion for the fact that he got to the stage of not being able to cope with that.
    I have done some work with people who suffer alcohol and drug dependacy (look at the website www.wrad.org.au) and realise that it can become a downward spiral that is hard to escape from.
    Do you have compassion for people with terminal illnesses such as cancer? Shouldn't insomina, depression and drug addiction be considered illnesses.
    Yes, drug addiction may be self-inflicted but it might start with good intentions to ease a certain problem and then spiral out of hand.
    I'm sure you're a great Elvis fan and congratulations if you know more about him or have more copies of his CDs than me or 1/2 the people on this board.
    But there is no need for you to use this forum for the type of abuse you levelled at me simply because I said fans should have compassion for Elvis' demise.
    I stand by my comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    Speaking of high horses, I think you need to calm down and get off your's, Frankieg.
    Trying to manipulate and backpeddle the issue at hand is too late for you.

    If you think you have me wound up, please try again.


    I have done some work with people who suffer alcohol and drug dependacy
    If you have such "compassion" and education in this field, why the inconsistant, erroneous posts and remarks ?

    Do you have compassion for people with terminal illnesses such as cancer?
    Certainly the most childish, immature and insensitive post I have read in a long time.

    Many of my family members have had to deal, some have lost, with this terrible illness.

    What does this have to do with Elvis anyhow ?

    Shouldn't insomina, depression and drug addiction be considered illnesses.
    Uh, when did I ever imply these weren't illnesses ? And for your information, I have suffered from sever insomnia for about 5 years now.

    Do you feel cheap now ?


    Yes, drug addiction may be self-inflicted but it might start with good intentions to ease a certain problem and then spiral out of hand.
    Oh please, your ignorance has got the best of you.

    Please enlighten and educate us all with your elaborate and lucid explanation of Elvis' good intention of easing his problems thru mad amounts of unecessary Demerol and Dilaudid, please ...

    I'm waiting ...


    I'm sure you're a great Elvis fan and congratulations if you know more about him or have more copies of his CDs than me or 1/2 the people on this board.
    That's not exactly what I said. Comprehension is obviously not your forte.


    But there is no need for you to use this forum for the type of abuse you levelled at me...
    Please, oh please, point out where I "abused" you.

    Are you just irked cuz I called you out on your ignorance ?

    ... simply because I said fans should have compassion for Elvis' demise.
    Here you go again with compassion ...

    Do you even know what it is that your babbling on about ?

    I stand by my comments.
    As I do ...

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    you, my friend, seem to live in a very naive state of mind in your childish assertions when it comes to actuality and reality.
    Comprehension is obviously not your forte.
    called you out on your ignorance ?
    Do you feel cheap now ?

    Those comments qualify as abuse in my book and is the type of personal attack which should not be allowed on this board.
    We're supposed to be on the same side here - all Elvis fans. I stated my clear opinion that fans should have compassion for Elvis' medication problems. I am not back-peddling or manipulating that. You should have a heart and I stick by that.
    I was making an analogy between cancer and drug addiction both being illnesses - sorry if that wasn't clear.
    There is no use arguing with your and I've got better things to do.

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    Those comments qualify as abuse in my book and is the type of personal attack which should not be allowed on this board.
    C'mon pal and grow a spine ...

    We're supposed to be on the same side here - all Elvis fans.
    Fair comment, but just because we are Elvis fans doesn't mean we see eye to eye either.

    Your comments, not your character, represent someone who is not well versed and a very naive individual.

    My comments are strong and based on Fact. Big difference.

    I stated my clear opinion that fans should have compassion for Elvis' medication problems.
    Actually, no, you never stated anything that was your "opinion".

    You should have a heart and I stick by that.
    Again, who are you to judge ?

    How do you know what I've been thru or have seen in life ?

    Who in the hell do you think you are in preaching to someone you don't even know in real life to have a heart ?

    And you don't think you are on a high horse kick ? LOL

    You should seriously consider practising what you preach brother ...sheesh

    I was making an analogy between cancer and drug addiction both being illnesses - sorry if that wasn't clear.
    Apology accepted.

    There is no use arguing with your

    And just what are you trying to imply with your comment, " ...with your" ???

    and I've got better things to do.
    Really ?

    Then why did you even bother replying to me to begin with ?

    Believe me, you"ll be back ...

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    Yep - you got me. Had to come back for another look.
    I'm supposed to be working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    Yep - you got me. Had to come back for another look.
    I'm supposed to be working!

    LMAO ...

    Now get back to work !

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    I work as a `media consultant' and work from home so there's no boss over my shoulder - just deadlines.
    I write that website i referred to above.
    I'm doing one on climate change at the moment - and looking for distractions whenever possible as it is too much for my "very naive state of mind" to grasp.
    Anyway, this time I'm gone
    Cheers
    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    I work as a `media consultant' and work from home so there's no boss over my shoulder - just deadlines.
    I write that website i referred to above.
    I'm doing one on climate change at the moment - and looking for distractions whenever possible as it is too much for my "very naive state of mind" to grasp.
    Anyway, this time I'm gone
    Cheers
    Rick

    Take care and good luck to you in your work.

    Tomorrow will be a long day for me at the grind, 14 long hours, and my wife is expected to deliver our 3rd child anytime ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankieg View Post
    Take care and good luck to you in your work.

    Tomorrow will be a long day for me at the grind, 14 long hours, and my wife is expected to deliver our 3rd child anytime ...
    Congrats Frankie !! I wish you and your family all the best !!
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Now I know why you're stressed!!!
    Seriously, though good luck with baby No.3. You'll find out all over again what insomnia is all about

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    I maintain that the pressures of `being Elvis' are something that you or I will never fully understand and as fans we should show some compassion for the fact that he got to the stage of not being able to cope with that.
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    I agree somewhat here and do think the pressures if being Elvis Presley obviously got to him. Lamar stated that he talked to Elvis before that last tour was to happen and told him "man f*** the tour, lets take a year off, get yourself back together" and Elvis said Lamar, I have a payroll. So obviouisly Elvis felt he had to keep touring etc to take care of everyone who he surrounded himself with .....
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Jon Burrows View Post
    Thank you for the suggestion Cameron I appreciate it !

    "Down At the End of Lonely Street and The Death Of Elvis"

    Are two books I feel I really need to get and will look for them on amazon thank you both for the suggestions!!
    I also would recommend a book called "Elvis Up Close" -In the words of those who knew him best.
    It is hard to find. The authors interviewed about 150 people who knew Elvis including people as far back as Tupelo, relatives, business associates, MM, Dr. Nick and many who had never been interviewed before. His sleep problems dating back to Tupelo and his medical problems are discussed pretty well by Dr. Nick and other doctors who were brought in to discuss the drugs and his death. It is very informative and has some insights that were new to me. (and I've read probably all the books on Elvis there are and own about 50)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankieg View Post
    Take care and good luck to you in your work.

    Tomorrow will be a long day for me at the grind, 14 long hours, and my wife is expected to deliver our 3rd child anytime ...
    Congrats and dont pass out in the delivery room.
    "When I was a child, ladies and gentlemen, I was a dreamer. I read comic books, and I was a hero in the movie. So every dream that I ever dreamed has come true a hundred times. I learned very early in life that without a song, the day would never end; without a song, a man ain't got a friend; without a song, the road would never bend; without a song. So I keep singing a song." - Elvis Presley

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