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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    stopping rain is not a supernatural power.It is a natural power..a Shaman master could tell more about this..
    Er, if stopping rain was really a natural power, then wouldn't someone have cottoned onto the idea by now of calling someone in during severe storms who could make it stop?

    And wouldn't making rain also be a natural thing, by that thinking? Send a Shaman master to drought-stricken areas perhaps ...

    It's absolute rubbish.

    The rain stopped because ... it stopped!
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    interraction with nature is what we've done till now and ruined it all..see ?we "the human kind" has that power,our evil intentions even counts(laugh as loud as you can,this too, is good for your health).unfortunately, less people wish to use it in a correct way,besides, Shamans respect nature,it's not about the pleasure of controlling all,sure beyond your understanding..I bet you'd try to control everything once you found out you have some power..so I'm glad you do not believe.. we have enough disasters around the world..

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    I think a lot of things like this are over-dramatized and sensationalized. The thing is, in written words you can't always get the feel for what the writter is saying. It was probably just an amazing coincidence that they all were somewhat in awe of, but still really doubted that it was the powers of Elvis that did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    I think a lot of things like this are over-dramatized and sensationalized. The thing is, in written words you can't always get the feel for what the writter is saying. It was probably just an amazing coincidence that they all were somewhat in awe of, but still really doubted that it was the powers of Elvis that did it.
    Elvis was Jesus......or Batman. I can never remember which one.

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    Jesus was human too..why should we feel so miserable and desperate for being human??

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    Jesus was human too..why should we feel so miserable and desperate for being human??
    Say what???

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    exactly what you read..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    exactly what you read..
    Got it. Let me translate.

    Elvis was "just an entertainer". He could not heal the sick, he could not make clouds move, he could not start/stop rain. He was not Christ or anything close to that. He was a man with a great voice and a talent to sing many styles........and that is pretty much it.

    Sorry you totally missed the jist of my original joke and took it to the nth degree of total seriousness with some overdramitic philosophy on Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    interraction with nature is what we've done till now and ruined it all..see ?we "the human kind" has that power,our evil intentions even counts(laugh as loud as you can,this too, is good for your health).unfortunately, less people wish to use it in a correct way,besides, Shamans respect nature,it's not about the pleasure of controlling all,sure beyond your understanding..I bet you'd try to control everything once you found out you have some power..so I'm glad you do not believe.. we have enough disasters around the world..
    I agree with all you say.
    We have enough disasters in our world without some that do not understand.
    Respect is a word some do not understand. More's the pity.
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    Got it. Let me translate.

    Elvis was "just an entertainer".
    He could not heal the sick, he could not make clouds move, he could not start/stop rain. He was not Christ or anything close to that. He was a man with a great voice and a talent to sing many styles........and that is pretty much it.

    Sorry you totally missed the jist of my original joke and took it to the nth degree of total seriousness with some overdramitic philosophy on Jesus.

    The parts bolded I agree with. The rest appears to be just trying to make a joke of Elvis and Jesus.
    Someday, maybe folks will understand.
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Cameron,I can't believe myself..that I still reply..must be my over bordom..

    and dear RR..I'm not intend to be disrespectful but Jesus or other prophets including Buddha,are human beings in my eyes and I'm glad they became examples for people to show how far a human being can get enlighted..if we believe they did good things,then we better follow their example..religions I guess,and only my opinion again, made us believe that we should feel inferior as human being and only worship,and not even dare to try to be anything Christ( I mean light, not Jesus) like..so we got lower and lower and lost our self confidence and the real capabilities.. equality with all it's meanings were erased off of our genetic system in time and fear replaced with love..
    but I believe whatever we've been taught as supernatural,is not so actually..I'll go on searching.. well, that's why I believe Elvis could do that kinda things,not because I'm a fan of his,or think he was a superhero..I do not believe superheros,cause anything super is nothing more than our courage,belief or free thinking..it's just we all get there,when our times will come..
    feel like another huh? question is coming..sorry for this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    Cameron,I can't believe myself..that I still reply..must be my over bordom..

    and dear RR..I'm not intend to be disrespectful but Jesus or other prophets including Buddha,are human beings in my eyes and I'm glad they became examples for people to show how far a human being can get enlighted..if we believe they did good things,then we better follow their example..religions I guess,and only my opinion again, made us believe that we should feel inferior as human being and only worship,and not even dare to try to be anything Christ( I mean light, not Jesus) like..so we got lower and lower and lost our self confidence and the real capabilities.. equality with all it's meanings were erased off of our genetic system in time and fear replaced with love..
    but I believe whatever we've been taught as supernatural,is not so actually..I'll go on searching.. well, that's why I believe Elvis could do that kinda things,not because I'm a fan of his,or think he was a superhero..I do not believe superheros,cause anything super is nothing more than our courage,belief or free thinking..it's just we all get there,when our times will come..
    feel like another huh? question is coming..sorry for this..
    Sorry, I really do not understand what it is you are trying to say.

    Let me be clear, Elvis was not a superhero and not Christ. And yes, I was making a joke of all this because it is beyond ridiculous.

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    no,no it's not about your joke..I still have a few brain cells to understand your joke..all I said was to explain why I believe what I believe..nothing wrong with your joke..to make this clear..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    Er, if stopping rain was really a natural power, then wouldn't someone have cottoned onto the idea by now of calling someone in during severe storms who could make it stop?

    And wouldn't making rain also be a natural thing, by that thinking? Send a Shaman master to drought-stricken areas perhaps ...

    It's absolute rubbish.

    The rain stopped because ... it stopped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    I think a lot of things like this are over-dramatized and sensationalized. The thing is, in written words you can't always get the feel for what the writter is saying. It was probably just an amazing coincidence that they all were somewhat in awe of, but still really doubted that it was the powers of Elvis that did it.
    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    Got it. Let me translate.

    Elvis was "just an entertainer". He could not heal the sick, he could not make clouds move, he could not start/stop rain. He was not Christ or anything close to that. He was a man with a great voice and a talent to sing many styles........and that is pretty much it.
    Thank you!


    It's too bad that some fans (not any fan here, I don't think) don't view Elvis in this light.....



    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    Let me be clear, Elvis was not a superhero and not Christ.
    Agreed again! When we begin to compare Elvis as being like Jesus, that's taking things way too far, IMO. We are not supposed to put any man/woman or anything above God/Christ.

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    According to my christian faith; we must all strive to be like Jesus. {Not Him, just like Him} According to Jesus; we could do all He did and more.
    But, this is off topic and belongs in a "religious discussion" IMO.
    It's just best to not laugh at things we don't understand.
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    Cameron,sometimes we have to give examples related to religions cause when we talk a little high,specially about Elvis,we immediately hit the same wall..Elvis and Jesus comparison..there's no meaning at all and not my fav subject exactly, cause I have a rather daring free mind which makes me a loner..anyway,I'm used to it..

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    IMO, it would be interesting to discuss Elvis' own personal beliefs and his life .
    Unfortunately, people take it as "comparing Elvis to God" and no one means it that way in the slightest. So, the arguements begin..or else the jokes from some because it makes them uncomfortable. Then you have to watch what you say and many grow tired of the restrictions placed upon them.
    I'm not sure why these things cannot be discussed from an unemotional aspect and let all have their opinion. It seems Elvis found it that way too.


    http://oldies.about.com/od/elvispres...lvis1965_2.htm

    March 17, 1965 : Presley joins a religious group based in Pacific Palisades, CA, called the Self-Realization Fellowship, led by Sri Daya Mata, whom Elvis will turn to for spiritual guidance on and off for the rest of his life.

    "My career won't allow it, my management won't allow it, my friends won't allow it... I've been fortunate in that I can, if I read something that somebody has written, and I'm intrigued by it, or I need to know more, I can contact them, and chances are, they'll respond because of who I am, and that's good because it's helped me, and in helping me, they've helped other people, but I have this need for more, and its driving me crazy, it's driving me crazy. "
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

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    don't know Cameron,it seems unvisible chains became a part of almost everyone's life on this earth..most people seems comfortable wearing them..tiresome..for Elvis,to show or talk about his real interests or views,beliefs were much more difficult than it is for us but just wish to believe he found a way somehow to share them with a few people.
    One thing I'm sure of is,it would've been so great to talk to him on those subjects for hours.. he was a man who knew to listen and for sure had a lot to say..

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    elvis, i love the bloke, he was imo the best singer/performer ever to walk the earth.
    and imo as a practising rabbii/ aman/ monk/ atheist

    i can honestly say, elvis was human, giving to human mistakes and thats it SIMPLE AS THAT.
    hari christna to all
    LETS BE FRIENDS!

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    many strange things happen in this world that we don't know why and how they happen. We can't deny or ignore anything that we don't have enough knowledege about it. we should accept that our knowledge is limited in some fields specially supernatural subjects. and why should we think anyone who talks about his super natural powers is lying ?!! elvis practiced meditation and other spiritual powers for years.
    his dentist Lester hoffman tells about an occasion when he performed a surgery on his tooth without numbing him and he numbed himself without medicine ! you can read it here for yourself.
    http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/inte..._hoffman.shtml

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