Whats your limit ?

[NightRider]

I asked the same question on another board...probably about the same time last year But it would be interesting to hear what you people buy.

Me, personally, I have given up buying every single release. By that i mean boot/import whatever you want to call them.

Plain and simply because of the amount of the great releases around...cd's..DVD's..boxsets..whatever... its plenty enough to spend all my available cash.

I used to buy the lot. Its the Audience recordings mainly that i am talking about. Now i am selective in which ones i buy and which i don't. I do. of course get all the soundboards...FTD's and standard releases. So that is my question. A little around the houses in the end....

What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)

I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.

Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?

[Cherokee]

I asked the same question on another board...probably about the same time last year But it would be interesting to hear what you people buy.

Me, personally, I have given up buying every single release. By that i mean boot/import whatever you want to call them.

Plain and simply because of the amount of the great releases around...cd's..DVD's..boxsets..whatever... its plenty enough to spend all my available cash.

I used to buy the lot. Its the Audience recordings mainly that i am talking about. Now i am selective in which ones i buy and which i don't. I do. of course get all the soundboards...FTD's and standard releases. So that is my question. A little around the houses in the end....

What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)

I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.

Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?

Okay, this is probably going to sound like a rant, but it's not, just my general opinion and not aimed at Nightrider or anybody in particular (on this board anyway ).

I'd say my limit is REAL LIFE. Things like bills, rent, food, gas, clothes, medication whatever.
My personal belief is that the depth of one's "being a fan" cannot and should not be measured by what one owns of/about one's object of affection i.e. one's "idol".

I've read some threads on "that other board" where some annoyingly obnoxious know it alls and "own it alls" terrorize anybody who "doesn't know what they know" or "doesn't own what they own" about Elvis.
To me that is just pathetic and terribly bigheaded. I'd say that only proves they know shockingly little about Elvis whose motto was "I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated".
Bullying people off a message board because they do not express or experience their fandom the way these "experts" feel everybody should , is something I have a very strong feeling would piss off Elvis royally
But, like I said, that's what I, as a lurker, have seen happen on that other MB which is one reason why I will never join it. I always hate the company of self important nobodys.

So, speaking solely for me: I love Elvis dearly, will try to expand my modest collection with things I find or suspect to be interesting (doesn't always work, some DVD's in particular are disappointing) but my Real Life always comes first and frankly I really don't need to have all that much. I have a (very) little of everything, except FTD's or soundboards whatever the hell those may be : DVD's, official CD's, books, tapes, calendars, commemorative plates... but really nothing compared to what I've read most other fans have. Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way
Does that make me any less of a fan? Absolutely not.
He's in my heart, I can visualize him if I need to and I just love him, warts and all

[curtis simpkins]

has for this year i have stop buying Elvis music,
because i got all that i need in my collection.

most of the stuff thats coming out now even out-takes its same ol same stuff
again.

even the concert's are about the same.

so now i am starting on my Johnny Cash collection on cd.
i hard that he recorded about 1,500 songs and that's a lot of music there.


if i had to buy an elvis cd it has to be a special one. but has for now
i am done with my Elvis music collection for now.

[buttonhead]

What is your limit ? Sound quality wise ? I buy them if they are good enough to enjoy...if not i leave alone. ( i have about forty or so that just sit on the cd shelf never again to see the light of day.)

I am lucky enough to have a friend who does buy them all...so i visit him..give them a listen then decide.

Are you a collector who has to have them because they are there ? Or are you like me...selective in what you choose to buy ?

I am not a collector ,...yet
i am picky,...i remember one time i got my Elvis ADIOS CD,..it was audience recordings, and all i could hear the most was those girls screaming..
..and that got me to the point ,..if i wanted to buy elvis imports , bootleg etc.and its audience recording,...i only follow the one that has good quality sounds ..
so far about DVD ,VHS...VCD, i prefer to buy the original one...or better to say wait until elvis enterprises giving them license and released it to the public,..maybe thats why my elvis DVD is, well i cant say much but its good quality .. the only one i got in DVD ( bootleg) was the one CBS special..worthy ..
thats all i can say for now..BTW great topic NR

[mn-designs]

That's a hard question to answer..
These days i have 2 children..so most of the money we make are for the childeren and for food and clothes ect..than if there is some money left..i can buy some new releases. So most of the time now i'll buy the new stuff some weeks later, when the prices are dropped a little..
And for the major new releases, i'll try to buy them on the day they are released, like the new aloha and comeback dvd's, i bought them on the special preview party we had here in holland, so i had them almost 2 weeks before the actual release date.
In short: i'll buy almost everything...but it may take some time..
Yes i'm a die-hard fan..but only the good stuff i buy, the new released movies..(viva las vegas, trouble with girls ect..) i got them for my birthday, if i had to buy them...i don't think so, the quality of these new movies are not that great, the picture is ok but the sound..mono recordings? in 2004? what the h--ll are they doing there at mgm and wb?
Hope this answers your question..

[Elvisgirl]

i dont have a limit i want more elvis...and more and more and even more :worthy:

[NightRider]

I hope people didn't get the wrong impression here...it was just a question
I know what its like when money is tight...believe me...i have been through it myself. It took me years to catch up...and thats probably due to eventually getting a better paid job...and the kids growing up .
Whatever you have...cd wise or anything else for that matter...doesn't always make you a bigger or better fan. ( Cherokee....yes i know what its like on FECC at times..they have it all and know it all...and i certainly cannot make that statement ) It depends on your circumstances....of that i am only too aware.
I was trying to find out what level of bootleg 'soundquality' people would buy....more than how many cd's they could afford.


some of it is just pure rubbish...released to line the pockets of bootleggers...and some for the benefit of Elvis fans...where do you draw the line ?

[Cherokee]

I hope people didn't get the wrong impression here...it was just a question
I know what its like when money is tight...believe me...i have been through it myself. It took me years to catch up...and thats probably due to eventually getting a better paid job...and the kids growing up .
Whatever you have...cd wise or anything else for that matter...doesn't always make you a bigger or better fan. ( Cherokee....yes i know what its like on FECC at times..they have it all and know it all...and i certainly cannot make that statement ) It depends on your circumstances....of that i am only too aware.
I was trying to find out what level of bootleg 'soundquality' people would buy....more than how many cd's they could afford.

some of it is just pure rubbish...released to line the pockets of bootleggers...and some for the benefit of Elvis fans...where do you draw the line ?

NR, I know what you meant and to your question I answered with the
"Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way " comment.
So many (official, cos I only know those) releases already overlap each other as far as material goes, that I for one am not going to buy three CD's that beween them may only have four different songs

And it's not even necessarily a question of money, but more a question of what quality you get for how much money. I am not a fan of most of Elvis mid sixties Travelogue movies. I have them on video tape, but I think most of them are too bad to spend 15 to 20 Euro on on a DVD (because the movie DVD's barely have extra stuff on them).
So, unless someone gives them to me as a present, you won't see me buying a mediocre movie like "Clambake" on DVD as I already have it on VHS.... That's what I actually meant by that statement of not needing to have everything

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I used to be a massive collector, I have about 100 Vinyl LP's none bought in the last ten years, about 40 CD's none bought in the last year. 10 video's, 7 DVD's Aloha, 68 special etc, hundreds of books and magazines over the last 27 years, Elvis Busts, cup coasters, drinking glases, whatever crap come out I bought it in the early years, 80% of which is in my mums attic and I left there about 8 years ago.

When I got married and had my daughter money was tight, in those early days I only bought stuff that was a must have, now I am more stable financially I tend to buy only something that is new (Unseen or Heard). I don't think you have to have a large collection to be an Elvis fan (My collection is bigger than yours Bullsh*t). If you came into my house you would have to look pretty hard to see an Elvis fan lived there, I don't hide the fact I am an Elvis fan but don't feel the need to go over the top anymore, plus the fact my wife might have something to say about it. although I have an Elvis 1956 Live poster in my hall in a clip frame, this is none negotiable!

All in all you do what you feel is best, no one should judge, but it does feel good to buy something special every once in a while.

[NightRider]

I used to be a massive collector, I have about 100 Vinyl LP's none bought in the last ten years, about 40 CD's none bought in the last year. 10 video's, 7 DVD's Aloha, 68 special etc, hundreds of books and magazines over the last 27 years, Elvis Busts, cup coasters, drinking glases, whatever crap come out I bought it in the early years, 80% of which is in my mums attic and I left there about 8 years ago.

When I got married and had my daughter money was tight, in those early days I only bought stuff that was a must have, now I am more stable financially I tend to buy only something that is new (Unseen or Heard). I don't think you have to have a large collection to be an Elvis fan (My collection is bigger than yours Bullsh*t). If you came into my house you would have to look pretty hard to see an Elvis fan lived there, I don't hide the fact I am an Elvis fan but don't feel the need to go over the top anymore, plus the fact my wife might have something to say about it. although I have an Elvis 1956 Live poster in my hall in a clip frame, this is none negotiable!

All in all you do what you feel is best, no one should judge, but it does feel good to buy something special every once in a while.

I agree Matt....couldn't have said it better

But that wasn't my question my friend

[iamhekev]

First of all,i am a member of the fecc board,and at times things get out of hand,no two ways about that.

As for your Q nightrider,i am like you,those shows that sound like the were recorded 3 streets away?,whats the point.

I have stopped buying bootlegs,and will now trade for cd-rs only,as some of the story"s i have heard,were some of the money go"s,etc,is a for me.

As for the size of collection i have,i won"t say how many of this that and the next,as i get real mad at times when i"m doing a trade,and some says i have only xyz(3-400) cds,and they want you to turn round a do the old :worthy: when in truth you are thinking .

In my eyes,someone who has gone out of there way to join mbs,buy the odd cd,book,dvd,etc,has as much right to have there say on the MEMPHIS BOY,as say joe smuck,who cant open the door of his EP room,because its full to the brim....

God,this wee note is heading for the size of war and peace = fecc,thats were i came in,and were i leave...

Just a view.

KEV.

[Elvisgirl]

lol i know what its like when the money is tight though i dont have children...
anyway, what i meant when i said " dont have a limit i want more elvis...and more and more and even more" was simply that i havent been a fan for that long and i havent heard/seen everything like ya'll prolly have....

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I agree Matt....couldn't have said it better

But that wasn't my question my friend

In answer to the original question & not posts following , Money would not be a factor, it's more the quality of sound or picture and whether or not I thought it was a must have, So I guess I am selective also

[Lonniebealestreet]

If money wasn't a factor, and it most certainly is, I probably would try to acquire everything I could get my hands on, with the exception of some of the really bad audience recordings some of you mentioned...although you do sort of develop a tolerance for the inferior quality after a while, up to a certain point anyway.

Official releases with nothing new to offer I'll skip, unless it is for a considerable jump in sound quality.

[NightRider]

In answer to the original question & not posts following , Money would not be a factor, it's more the quality of sound or picture and whether or not I thought it was a must have, So I guess I am selective also

The original question seems to have gotten lost there...somewhere at the start Still...we are getting there now
Its sound quality for me all the way....thats what i judge on....but as Bobby said also....if money were no option...which it is...then i would buy the lot for sure...just to complete the collection.
Some really bad audience recordings are worth a listen. And even the worst, i have listened to...so i can get an idea what the actual show was like. You never know...one day it may come out in better quality..so it is worth knowing what the shows are like.
If you remember some of the great FB soundboards were first released by other bootleg companies ( though whether that is the case - as in other companies or the same under different names..is another question alltogether ) in poor audience quality.
The booters releasiing audience seemed to have died altogether a couple of years ago ( with the odd exception ) but right now they seem to have come back from the dead.
The new Whitehaven releases ( which i haven't listened to yet ) sound as if they will contain some great material...a live version of I John...being just one example....so we will see whether they are worth keeping on the cd shelf or not

[Albert]

What am I buying instantly:

* all FTD releases
* BMG boxsets
* soundboard imports
* remastered, re-released original RCA album (like -hopefully- Fool, Raised On Rock, etc.)

What I might buy:
* a good "new" (hahahaa) BMG compilation (I have E1, E2 and Christmas Peace)
* audience recordings that have good sound, good artwork and nice content (all three)
* studio outtakes import cd's (since most big import labels have covered some nice sessions already, and FTD is doing such a good job on this as well, I will buy a new studio outtakes import cd very rarely).

Besides FTD, BMG and the import labels are currently doing a poor job. E1 and E2 were nice, but they (BMG) are already trying to do the same trick (re-re-releasing the same compilations with different titles/artwork and a slightly changed tracklist). The importlabels are relying on poor audience recordings and re-releases of material previously available on other (better) labels.

[Memphis]

Okay, this is probably going to sound like a rant, but it's not, just my general opinion and not aimed at Nightrider or anybody in particular (on this board anyway ).

I'd say my limit is REAL LIFE. Things like bills, rent, food, gas, clothes, medication whatever.
My personal belief is that the depth of one's "being a fan" cannot and should not be measured by what one owns of/about one's object of affection i.e. one's "idol".

I've read some threads on "that other board" where some annoyingly obnoxious know it alls and "own it alls" terrorize anybody who "doesn't know what they know" or "doesn't own what they own" about Elvis.
To me that is just pathetic and terribly bigheaded. I'd say that only proves they know shockingly little about Elvis whose motto was "I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated".
Bullying people off a message board because they do not express or experience their fandom the way these "experts" feel everybody should , is something I have a very strong feeling would piss off Elvis royally
But, like I said, that's what I, as a lurker, have seen happen on that other MB which is one reason why I will never join it. I always hate the company of self important nobodys.

So, speaking solely for me: I love Elvis dearly, will try to expand my modest collection with things I find or suspect to be interesting (doesn't always work, some DVD's in particular are disappointing) but my Real Life always comes first and frankly I really don't need to have all that much. I have a (very) little of everything, except FTD's or soundboards whatever the hell those may be : DVD's, official CD's, books, tapes, calendars, commemorative plates... but really nothing compared to what I've read most other fans have. Would I like to have more? Sure. Do I need to have every single release be it DVD, print or Audio? No way
Does that make me any less of a fan? Absolutely not.
He's in my heart, I can visualize him if I need to and I just love him, warts and all

Here! Here!! someone with an ounce of reality!

[Memphis]

The original question seems to have gotten lost there...somewhere at the start Still...we are getting there now
Its sound quality for me all the way....thats what i judge on....but as Bobby said also....if money were no option...which it is...then i would buy the lot for sure...just to complete the collection.........or not

I guess my first reaction to the subject line was $$ since I associate limit with charge card limits, therefore money limit. Was it about the music?

[stilllovinelvis]

I am not a "serious" collector. I have just started adding to my few audio and video tapes. I am trying to be selective in what I purchase. I am not one who feels I have to have everything just for the sake of having it. I want audio that is understandable and decent sound quality, something that I can enjoy listening to again and again. And video, I would like to have a decent picture of Elvis and decent sound as well. A couple videos I purchased are not very close up and his face is a white blob. I don't care for that. I want to SEE him. That's just how I feel. I would like to buy more, but I am trying to be careful and get good quality. Pittsburg, 12/31/76 dvd is fantastic! And I like Elvis in Concert dvd and cd to name a couple.

[spinout-designs]

Sorry Nightrider, I'm gonna go off at a slight tangent here and comment on audience recordings specifically, regarding the quality aspect.

Now, I am a keen collector of audience recordings (though they are not all originals) they do often offer something of interest, and I kinda consider them as my ticket to another Elvis Presley show.

However, often times the quality of these audience recordings are far from great, and you are more listening to them for the dialogue inbetween than for the enjoyment of the songs themselves (that's if you can even make the dialogue out on some of them).

I dunno about you, but sometimes I wonder why the hell am I playing a CD with **** sound quality when there are now so many soundboard and multi track performances to choose from.

Then on other occasions there will be a real cool snippet where Elvis says something funny or it's a great show and you're glad you didn't miss it.

At the end of the day, with audience recordings you are getting more of the experience of a show than anything else, and for that reason I guess I will continue to collect them, however, I certainly don't need re-issued audience recordings of shows I already have.