Billy Miller : How Many Wills??

[cameron]

THIS IS BILLY SMITH ....no wonder I was questioned .

Thought I'd start another contraversial topic. What's your opinion?

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/intervie...ith_part2.html

EIN: Larry Geller mentions a different will – possibly a hand written one. No one can understand why Elvis wouldn’t want to have left you something to live on after all your time looking after him. What are your feelings about this?

Billy: Yes, I saw a different will. Elvis updated his will before we went to Hawaii in March of 1977. He gave it to me to put up for him and told me to read it. I put it up -- after he died, my cousin Patsy called me asked me if I knew where it was. Uncle Vernon was looking for it. I told her! Elvis always told Jo and me that we would be taken care of as long as he lived and we were. And that if anything happened to him, we would be taken care of.

[The King's Queen]

Mercy me Cam...lol Are you trying to get feathers ruffled or what??? lol....j/k

[cameron]

No, I hope not. Just start another topic.
This IS being researched by someone else... NOT me, as I never really thought about it to be honest. Many of the MM think there was another.
I've just always wondered if that was a part of somes seeming bitterness.
On this, I have no opinion. believe it or not.

[The King's Queen]

And as strange as it may seem to some...neither do I! I should rethink this...

[Tony Trout]

Thought I'd start another contraversial topic. What's your opinion?

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/intervie...ith_part2.html

EIN: Larry Geller mentions a different will – possibly a hand written one. No one can understand why Elvis wouldn’t want to have left you something to live on after all your time looking after him. What are your feelings about this?

Billy: Yes, I saw a different will. Elvis updated his will before we went to Hawaii in March of 1977. He gave it to me to put up for him and told me to read it. I put it up -- after he died, my cousin Patsy called me asked me if I knew where it was. Uncle Vernon was looking for it. I told her! Elvis always told Jo and me that we would be taken care of as long as he lived and we were. And that if anything happened to him, we would be taken care of.

Billy Miller is as fake as a $6.00.00 bill. No one in the MM has ever heard of him. His claims are pure B.S!

There was, though, two wills...at least, according to Elvis's cousin, Billy Smith. The official will that was probated in late August, 1977 and a handwritten will where Elvis listed who was to be "taken care of" if something happened to him. The handwritten will was located and supposedly destroyed by Vernon.


This Billy Miller mentions his wife's name being "Jo"....I smell a huge rat. It seems that this "Billy Miller" is trying to put himself in Billy Smith's shoes because Billy Smith said these exact same things in "Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" about there being two wills and he (Billy Smith) telling Patsy where the handwritten will was located.

[KPM]

Thought I'd start another contraversial topic. What's your opinion?

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/intervie...ith_part2.html

EIN: Larry Geller mentions a different will – possibly a hand written one. No one can understand why Elvis wouldn’t want to have left you something to live on after all your time looking after him. What are your feelings about this?

Billy: Yes, I saw a different will. Elvis updated his will before we went to Hawaii in March of 1977. He gave it to me to put up for him and told me to read it. I put it up -- after he died, my cousin Patsy called me asked me if I knew where it was. Uncle Vernon was looking for it. I told her! Elvis always told Jo and me that we would be taken care of as long as he lived and we were. And that if anything happened to him, we would be taken care of.

So if I get this right Billy is saying the will filed and scrutinized by the court was not the real will? If Billy put up any updates to the will-why was it never taken to Elvis's lawyer who could put it into legal form and make it official. He had just signed a will in March-why would he suddenly after just signing the will decide to make changes? (wouldn't you put off signing it if you wanted changes) The will Elvis signed in 77 was witnessed and a notary stamped it. So is he saying the witnesses and notary are lying? In order to pull off this idea of the will not being the true will, it would seem the lawyer, witnesses, notary, Vernon and judge who certified it would have to be in on it.
I have also read somewhere that one of Elvis's relatives said certain pages were missing. The will is numbered and runs in progression from one item to the next. If you pull out pages the will would no longer run in progression but would have a gap from one section to the next.
Finally why was the will not contested back in 77-if Billy was sure something was not right or missing? I mean that would be the time to do it-not well after the fact.
I said this once before in another thread about the will, Elvis may have planned to do a lot of things including taking care of Billys family-but he did not plan to die at 42 and just never did it.
I mean truthfully it just does not add up IMO

[cameron]

Billy Miller is as fake as a $6.00.00 bill. No one in the MM has ever heard of him. His claims are pure B.S!

There was, though, two wills...at least, according to Elvis's cousin, Billy Smith. The official will that was probated in late August, 1977 and a handwritten will where Elvis listed who was to be "taken care of" if something happened to him. The handwritten will was located and supposedly destroyed by Vernon.


This Billy Miller mentions his wife's name being "Jo"....I smell a huge rat. It seems that this "Billy Miller" is trying to put himself in Billy Smith's shoes because Billy Smith said these exact same things in "Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" about there being two wills and he (Billy Smith) telling Patsy where the handwritten will was located.

SORRY< I TRIED TO CHANGE THAT .....THAT'S BILLY SMITH !!

[Tony Trout]

SORRY< I TRIED TO CHANGE THAT .....THAT'S BILLY SMITH !!

Thank you, Cameron.

(I mean that very sincerely)

So if I get this right Billy is saying the will filed and scrutinized by the court was not the real will? If Billy put up any updates to the will-why was it never taken to Elvis's lawyer who could put it into legal form and make it official. He had just signed a will in March-why would he suddenly after just signing the will decide to make changes? (wouldn't you put off signing it if you wanted changes) The will Elvis signed in 77 was witnessed and a notary stamped it. So is he saying the witnesses and notary are lying? In order to pull off this idea of the will not being the true will, it would seem the lawyer, witnesses, notary, Vernon and judge who certified it would have to be in on it.

If I remember correctly, the will was originally dated in 1976...not 1977. The year 1976 was crossed out and 1977 was put in it's place.

Finally why was the will not contested back in 77-if Billy was sure something was not right or missing? I mean that would be the time to do it-not well after the fact.

Maybe everyone was still so in shock from Elvis's passing that they didn't think of doing that....

[KPM]

Thank you, Cameron.

(I mean that very sincerely)





If I remember correctly, the will was originally dated in 1976...not 1977. The year 1976 was crossed out and 1977 was put in it's place.



Maybe everyone was still so in shock from Elvis's passing that they didn't think of doing that....

That is true but the notary would not have given her stamp-if she had not witnessed the change. The notary, Charlie Hodge, Ginger Alden and a third witness all signed the document as did Elvis-so they all in giving their signatures vouch for the signing and the date of the signing. It was just a typo caught as they were signing the will. As far as I know none of them who signed it has ever claimed anything different(including the notary)

[Jungleroom76]

Many of the MM think there was another.

My guess is....the members of the MM were probably HOPING there was another will because they were left out of the official will that was probated after Elvis' death!!!

As far as I know, the only person who can remember Billy Miller being with Elvis is Billy Miller! Everyone else that has been questioned about him denies that he ever worked for Elvis!

TCB!
Mike

[Tony Trout]

That is true but the notary would not have given her stamp-if she had not witnessed the change. The notary, Charlie Hodge, Ginger Alden and a third witness all signed the document as did Elvis-so they all in giving their signatures vouch for the signing and the date of the signing. It was just a typo caught as they were signing the will. As far as I know none of them who signed it has ever claimed anything different(including the notary)

So...was the change made that day he signed it?

As far as I know, the only person who can remember Billy Miller being with Elvis is Billy Miller! Everyone else that has been questioned about him denies that he ever worked for Elvis!

TCB!
Mike

And you would be right on the money with your guessing. Billy Miller is living in a fantasy world...period!

[Jungleroom76]

So...was the change made that day he signed it?

In order for the person to sign and officially notarize the will when Elvis and his witnesses signed it, yes the date had to be corrected at that time.

TCB!
Mike

[cameron]

Billy is saying the will filed and scrutinized by the court was not the real will?

That's my understanding and it's a puzzle. After all these years; some still can't forget it.

The person looking into this was questionong the 3 signatures on the will....instead of two. One of course being Beecher Smiths wife.
I never thought about it before. Certainly know of no law that says they only need too.
I know some interesting people. They think differently.

[Tony Trout]

In order for the person to sign and officially notarize the will when Elvis and his witnesses signed it, yes the date had to be corrected at that time.

TCB!
Mike

Thanks, Mike. That's what I thought.

[Jungleroom76]

Thanks, Mike. That's what I thought.

I'd have to see a picture or copy of the will again...it's been a long time since I have seen it. But if I remember correctly, I think the reason that the date was changed was because the year "1976" was typed on the will (must be the copy of the will they were using was typed in 1976) and since the year had changed, rather than go back and re-type the entire will again, they just crossed out the "76" and changed it to "77".

But as I said, I'd have to see a copy of the will again to verify this but I think this is the way it was...

TCB!
Mike

[KPM]

So...was the change made that day he signed it?




And you would be right on the money with your guessing. Billy Miller is living in a fantasy world...period!

Yes the notary would have made the change "before she and everyone signed it." Legally they could not change it after they signed it because their signatures are verifying the information in the will-including the date of signatures.

[Jungleroom76]

And you would be right on the money with your guessing. Billy Miller is living in a fantasy world...period!

I have been an Elvis fan for 30 years, and the first time that I ever heard Billy Miller's name was in THE LAST DAYS OF ELVIS special that airs on the E! network quite often...and that special came out only a couple of years ago. As far as I know, there was never any mention of Miller at anytime before that E! special! If he was as important in Elvis' life as he claims he is, it's funny that he was never mentioned until only a couple of years ago!!

TCB!
Mike

[Tony Trout]

I'd have to see a picture or copy of the will again...it's been a long time since I have seen it. But if I remember correctly, I think the reason that the date was changed was because the year "1976" was typed on the will (must be the copy of the will they were using was typed in 1976) and since the year had changed, rather than go back and re-type the entire will again, they just crossed out the "76" and changed it to "77".

But as I said, I'd have to see a copy of the will again to verify this but I think this is the way it was...

TCB!
Mike

You're absolutely correct.

Yes the notary would have made the change "before she and everyone signed it." Legally they could not change it after they signed it because their signatures are verifying the information in the will-including the date of signatures.

Thanks, KPM.

I have been an Elvis fan for 30 years, and the first time that I ever heard Billy Miller's name was in THE LAST DAYS OF ELVIS special that airs on the E! network quite often...and that special came out only a couple of years ago. As far as I know, there was never any mention of Miller at anytime before that E! special! If he was as important in Elvis' life as he claims he is, it's funny that he was never mentioned until only a couple of years ago!!

TCB!
Mike

Mike,

There's a simple explanation: Billy Miller never worked for Elvis a day in his life. He's a fraud and a con.

[Jungleroom76]

You're absolutely correct.

Thanks for verifying that for me....it saves me having to find a copy of the will to refresh my increasingly fading memory!!!

TCB!
Mike

[cameron]

I have been an Elvis fan for 30 years, and the first time that I ever heard Billy Miller's name was in THE LAST DAYS OF ELVIS special that airs on the E! network quite often...and that special came out only a couple of years ago. As far as I know, there was never any mention of Miller at anytime before that E! special! If he was as important in Elvis' life as he claims he is, it's funny that he was never mentioned until only a couple of years ago!!

TCB!
Mike

NOT BILLY MILLER.....CAN YOU CHANGE THE TITLE? I COULDN"T. IT'S BILLY SMITH THAT DID THAT INTERVIEW AND SAID THAT >>