Elvis Presley meeting with Richard Nixon a Joke?

[Joe Car]

Personally, I think this thread should be shutdown. For people who weren't around, or are not old enough to remember the seventies, then you shouldn't comment on what Elvis should have, or shouldn't have done, because you don't have a clue of how things were back then. The fact that Elvis is now being termed a "junkie" by "fans" makes me sick. It's a low class thing to call any human being, let alone Elvis, especially since we all know how the word "junkie" is perceived. As an Elvis fan, I'm embarassed that this thread has sunk this low, and that he's thought of that way by any of his so-called fan base.

[SeeSeeRider777]

JoeCar- What do you call a man who abuses drugs? Two things a drug abuser and the slang word "junkie". As terrible as it is to say because Elvis is my favorite of all time, Elvis was a junkie. If you dont call Elvis a junkie, what do you call him?

[Joe Car]

JoeCar- What do you call a man who abuses drugs? Two things a drug abuser and the slang word "junkie". As terrible as it is to say because Elvis is my favorite of all time, Elvis was a junkie. If you dont call Elvis a junkie, what do you call him?

I don't have to call him anything, he had an illness.

[4THEHEART]

Oh! c'mon Utmom please..it wasn't me who called Elvis, "King" and thinks that he had everything,it was Getlo..

[KPM]

I'll bet you're one of those "touchy-feely" types who extends every bit of tea and sympathy to any type of addict who walks through the door.

The first thing any addict needs - once they admit they have a problem, of course - is a swift does of reality. Rehab and addiction treatment should be hard work, almost bordering on torture (as it were) so addicts never want to go back. And with the right treatment, they should never want to take drugs again either - at least not to the point of abuse anyway.

But some of these celebrity rehab centres ... tennis courts, swimming pools etc. Gimme a break.

If Elvis had've made it into rehab and I was in charge ... the first thing I would've had him do is clean the toilets, mop up the floors and shut the hell up. I would've kicked his a-s-s, then eventually sent him on his way. Cured.
Society is way to soft on people with addiction problems. Instead of wasting time talking about feelings, mother issues etc, the first thing that should be done is to cure the actual addiction.

Or to commit suicide. Some people respond to that type treatment and that would be the right approach-and for some people that would be the wrong approach and would do more harm than good. That is why each individual is screened, tested, and investigated to find out what type therapy will help them - the right way.... IMO one size does not fit all -no matter how much you try to force it to.

[jak]

The word "junkie" is certainly a word that I wish was never associated with Elvis.Having said that,there is no way you can dance around it.After all these years we should be able to just tell it like it was.It's just hard for people to accept that someone that special could have had that problem.I know the fans look at him with caring eyes,but how can you still be in denial after 30 years?
Jak

[utmom2008]

Oh! c'mon Utmom please..it wasn't me who called Elvis, "King" and thinks that he had everything,it was Getlo..

It sounds funny the way you worded it! When the phrase, "the King" is said I think of Elvis. When the phrase, "a King" is used it sounds like royalty!

[Diane]

No one should be in denial that Elvis had an addiction problem as it was a fact of his life but the word "junkie" doesn't have to be used either....no need to use trashy words that are put-downs - for anyone. Why can't a person just say "he was addicted to prescription drugs"?

Diane

[4THEHEART]

Utmom ! that's a good one! anger makes me crosseyed sometimes..

[4THEHEART]

no not you..

[utmom2008]

no not you..

OK...I understand now after re-reading it.

[Getlo]

Posted by Getlo:"Rehab and addiction treatment should be hard work, almost bordering on torture "

well,in dark ages they beat the mentally ill people to rehab them..how sad there's no improvement in some minds.

You really just don't get it ...

[Getlo]

The word "junkie" is certainly a word that I wish was never associated with Elvis.

I actually agree with you.

I personally don't use the word junkie - I use the term "drug addict".

And since "junkie" is a common slang term for a drug addict, the same term may be applied to Elvis.

Unfortunately, some on here only believe the word "junkie" automatically means heroin addict, a thief, someone who robs people on the street etc. Elvis was clearly not that type of junkie.

Remember, even the lovely housewife addicted to sleeping pills is also a junkie.

[Getlo]

Getlo I assume you do not believe that genetics, and your upbringing have anything at all to do with the person each of us becomes

To an extent I do, yes. But I do not believe there is a specific gene or set of genes for addiction. To take drugs is a choice people make.

I assume you must be a very strong person mentally-for you seem to not have any problems like this.

It is not a matter of mental strength; it is about choice. Without going into extended details, I have tried (that is to say, I made the choice to try) every illegal drug during my twenties. And I enjoyed every single experience on every last one of 'em, too! (Don't try this at home, kids! )

Some I tried a few times, some just once. But there was never a fear of becoming addicted to any of them. And I didn't.

Not everyone is as lucky.

Again, it's not about luck.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I'm sorry but this thread was initially about "Elvis Presley meeting with Richard Nixon a Joke? " I realise that threads can and do weave in and about a subject matter but this thread has turned into a slanging match

Please do not take this to another thread