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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    Well considering George says he was pretty much high that night that may be a possible answer. He has also said he never met Priscilla that night- but the others say she was introduced to them all:
    GEORGE HARRISON Meeting Elvis was one of the high-lights of the tour. It was funny, because by the time we got near his house we'd forgotten where we were going. We were in a Cadillac going round and round along Mulholland, and we'd had a couple of "cups of tea" in the back of the car. It didn't really matter where we were going - it's like the comedian Lord Buckley says, "We go into a native village and take a couple of peyote buds, we might not find out where we is, but we'll sure find out who we is." Anyway, we were just having fun, we were all in hysterics. (We laughed a lot. That's one thing we forgot about for a few years - laughing. When we went through all the lawsuits, it looked as if everything was bleak, but when I think back to before that, I remember we used to laugh all the time.) We pulled up at some big gates and someone said, "Oh yeah, we're going to see Elvis," and we all fell out of the car laughing, trying to pretend we weren't silly, just like a Beatles cartoon
    Not saying that Harrison version is the definitive one, but Joe recall canīt be taken as the ultimate true neither.

    The only thing I could say is that seems to me that everybody was full of expectatives about this meeting, and as it turned out to be, it was nothing really special, they really didnīt click, it was all in a hurry, and as much as the fab are being political correct (I mean they love Elvis no matter what, even Elvis himself), they were in fact disapointed about the meeting, and for Elvis, well half intimidated as now he was dead long life the Beatles thing, half well they werenīt really the kind of people to whom he would get along well.

    Yet seems that everybody apart of them who was present in that meeting still want to make it look as if it was the biggest thing ever, and in doing so, myth comes along.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    Not saying that Harrison version is the definitive one, but Joe recall canīt be taken as the ultimate true neither.

    The only thing I could say is that seems to me that everybody was full of expectatives about this meeting, and as it turned out to be, it was nothing really special, they really didnīt click, it was all in a hurry, and as much as the fab are being political correct (I mean they love Elvis no matter what, even Elvis himself), they were in fact disapointed about the meeting, and for Elvis, well half intimidated as now he was dead long life the Beatles thing, half well they werenīt really the kind of people to whom he would get along well.

    Yet seems that everybody apart of them who was present in that meeting still want to make it look as if it was the biggest thing ever, and in doing so, myth comes along.
    I think it was something special to the Beatles-that was their one big request in America to meet Elvis.
    Expectations are always so high for big things like this-that the real meeting probably could never have lived up to them. They were expecting I think to meet the scruffy, greasy, rocker from 55 who was on fire and they met a man of 30 who was at this point beyond that. Everything they were doing he had done, before them. He probably did feel like he was forced into meeting them-but tried to make the best of it.
    They always kept a respect for Elvis and his talent IMO- John wanted Elvis to be at his Toronto Peace Festival in 69, George wanted Elvis to be featured in "the Traveling Wilburys" in the 80s and even asked Priscilla and the estate for some recording by Elvis which could be used to build a song by the group-George later decided it was kind of morbid to try to do so.(although after Roy Orbison died they built a video from one of the recordings which showed a guitar in a rocking chair when Orbisons vocal part played so I guess he changed his mind)
    If you asked any of the Beatles if they would have rather not met Elvis-I'm sure they would have said- no we're were glad we did.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    The only thing I could say is that seems to me that everybody was full of expectatives about this meeting, and as it turned out to be, it was nothing really special, they really didnīt click, it was all in a hurry, and as much as the fab are being political correct (I mean they love Elvis no matter what, even Elvis himself), they were in fact disapointed about the meeting,

    Yet seems that everybody apart of them who was present in that meeting still want to make it look as if it was the biggest thing ever, and in doing so, myth comes along.
    I disagree RoR....I think it went as well as could be expected. The differences between a Southerner and 4 British boys were vast. It was "special" by merely having 2 such iconic entertainment figures in the same room. If they could have included Sinatra it would have been a trifecta. Where did you get your information that The Beatles were disapointed in the meeting??

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    I think it was something special to the Beatles-that was their one big request in America to meet Elvis.
    Expectations are always so high for big things like this-that the real meeting probably could never have lived up to them. They were expecting I think to meet the scruffy, greasy, rocker from 55 who was on fire and they met a man of 30 who was at this point beyond that. Everything they were doing he had done, before them. He probably did feel like he was forced into meeting them-but tried to make the best of it.
    They always kept a respect for Elvis and his talent IMO- John wanted Elvis to be at his Toronto Peace Festival in 69, George wanted Elvis to be featured in "the Traveling Wilburys" in the 80s and even asked Priscilla and the estate for some recording by Elvis which could be used to build a song by the group-George later decided it was kind of morbid to try to do so.(although after Roy Orbison died they built a video from one of the recordings which showed a guitar in a rocking chair when Orbisons vocal part played so I guess he changed his mind)
    If you asked any of the Beatles if they would have rather not met Elvis-I'm sure they would have said- no we're were glad we did.
    Elvis playing with his new band in '69 at the Toronto Rock and Roll Festival would have been one of the coolest events in the rock world for sure!!! Do you have any more info/sources about this? I have also heard about this, but donīt know really how did happened, if true of course.

    Iīm sure all four Beatles were glad to have meet him, wonder if Elvis was as there is also the rumor (although is only a rumor no sources just mouth and threads)) that Lennon tried to make contact with him several times during the 70's and Elvis always hided away from that situation, and well we all know what he spoke about them to Nixon.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    I disagree RoR....I think it went as well as could be expected. The differences between a Southerner and 4 British boys were vast. It was "special" by merely having 2 such iconic entertainment figures in the same room. If they could have included Sinatra it would have been a trifecta. Where did you get your information that The Beatles were disapointed in the meeting??
    I had posted two you tube links above in this thread, donīt know if you got the time to watch them already, anyhow, they were not for sure disapointed in the way they hated that meeting, sure thing, they were all glad of meeting him, most of them Lennon as you can hear on those videos Im telling you. Yet what I meant is that, even if McCartney says it was one of the greatest encounters of his live, what I meant by being disapointed is that it seems to me as KMP put it that they were expecting to meet someone else, someone that Elvis was not (the image was one thing human being is another), that is one issue to adreess, inmadurity on their side of course but it was no big chemistry on their meeting, unlike Elvis meeting Roy Hamilton or Beatles meeting Bob Dylan, so it did was these two rock music icons (the bigest of all time) meeting and chating, so, sure, it was special, but only from the "image" point of view, you know what I mean? and thatīs all those people from Beatles and Elvis gang saing oh sure! they jam! they laugh! it was magic! bull"$%, from the humang being point of view, unlike Elvis and Tom JOnes or or Sammy Davis Jr or the guys at the Millon Dollar Sessions or Lennon meeting Clapton or Elton John or whoever, there was no chemistry, no magic between Elvis and the Beatles, they did not seem to have click, and thatīs Ringo on the video telling: we couldnīt got close to him or being friends (or something of the like), Memphis Mafia and Col. Parker Sh&!"# donīt know, Ringo said it was.

    So, from my point of view, which is nothing but that, seems to me that Elvis and Led Zeppelin meeting in the 70's was much more of a great rock and roll meeting than the Beatles one, as story telling implies that they did get along much better.

    P.S. What did disapointed the Beatles was Elvis bashing them 5 years latter. What was going on there? how can you bash Beatles and record their music at the same time? but that goes for another thread the ELvis meets Nixon maybe?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    Elvis playing with his new band in '69 at the Toronto Rock and Roll Festival would have been one of the coolest events in the rock world for sure!!! Do you have any more info/sources about this? I have also heard about this, but donīt know really how did happened, if true of course.

    Iīm sure all four Beatles were glad to have meet him, wonder if Elvis was as there is also the rumor (although is only a rumor no sources just mouth and threads)) that Lennon tried to make contact with him several times during the 70's and Elvis always hided away from that situation, and well we all know what he spoke about them to Nixon.
    I think the Goldman Bio about Lennon is where I read it. I also am pretty sure its mentioned in a couple other Beatle bios. I have about 20 books on the Beatles as group and as individuals.

  7. #47
    Since this thread hasn't had a post since January 6, I will put some more thoughts and quotes here. Their has been some things said that George said and etc. Well, to get it all out. First, did the Beatles arrived in one limo or two. The true answer is two. John and Paul was with Mal Evans and Colonel Parker while in limo two had Ringo and George with Joe and Brian Epstein. Also, did they jammed or not? Well, by the E!: True Hollywood Story - Elvis The Hollywood Years Larry Gellar said "Paul saw a guitar and saked Elvis if he could play it and Elvis said sure. Paul picked up a bass which he played. John asked to play a guitar and Elvis said sure go right ahead. The two start to play a little then Elvis got on another guitar and the three started jamming together." That is pretty much what the rest of the Memphis Mafia have said over the years about the meeting as well. In several books it mentions that the Beatles did arrived in two limos. Also, there is one photo that was taken that shows two limos.

  8. #48
    I look at it this way...either they jammed or they didn't and if they recorded it great if they didn't not going loose sleep. But I would love to have been there tahts for sure or be fly on the wall.

    To me to have something this big Elvis and Beetles meet someone had slip something in to record if they did anything. But one of those will never know.

    Now as for Geroge Harrison Sister I know she is manging a Beatles tribute group called "Liverpool Legends." How I know this because my Friend Irv Cass started the show Elvis Meets The Beetles.

    Liverpool LEgends and Irv and my friend Dwight are doing big show at Sabre Room in Spring Hill, ILL in May you should go see it!

    Love to all,
    Tim Dudley

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    Elvis playing with his new band in '69 at the Toronto Rock and Roll Festival would have been one of the coolest events in the rock world for sure!!! Do you have any more info/sources about this? I have also heard about this, but donīt know really how did happened, if true of course.
    It was true, Lennon wanted Elvis their but Elvis didn't want to do it at all. There is many books that has said this.

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    I read somewhere that during the night some of the Beatles smoked marihuana outside, and Lennon kinda hit on Priscilla. From what I read Elvis wasn't that crazy about that meeting because of that, and the feeling that he was outdated by these young, hip world conquering artists from the UK.

    It probably also has to do with the fact that Elvis didn't really create music by himself. He always relied on the material and words of others (but still managed to make many songs his own throughout the proces of recording).

    If Elvis really, REALLY liked it, he would have setup another meeting somewhere along the line. Before or after this short informal meeting.
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  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    I read somewhere that during the night some of the Beatles smoked marihuana outside, and Lennon kinda hit on Priscilla. From what I read Elvis wasn't that crazy about that meeting because of that, and the feeling that he was outdated by these young, hip world conquering artists from the UK.

    It probably also has to do with the fact that Elvis didn't really create music by himself. He always relied on the material and words of others (but still managed to make many songs his own throughout the proces of recording).

    If Elvis really, REALLY liked it, he would have setup another meeting somewhere along the line. Before or after this short informal meeting.

    Lennon hitting on Priscilla. Kinda odd for a married man don't you think. Especially when his wife was in town at the time.

    That kinda makes me think of that one lawsuit that Elvis told about on Desert Storm. "There ain't no way you catch me doing that, are you kidding me?"

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    I read somewhere that during the night some of the Beatles smoked marihuana outside, and Lennon kinda hit on Priscilla. From what I read Elvis wasn't that crazy about that meeting because of that, and the feeling that he was outdated by these young, hip world conquering artists from the UK.

    It probably also has to do with the fact that Elvis didn't really create music by himself. He always relied on the material and words of others (but still managed to make many songs his own throughout the proces of recording).

    If Elvis really, REALLY liked it, he would have setup another meeting somewhere along the line. Before or after this short informal meeting.
    According to "Elvis: from A to Z", Elvis and Harrison meet again once in Vegas during the 70's. Is that true at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    According to "Elvis: from A to Z", Elvis and Harrison meet again once in Vegas during the 70's. Is that true at all?
    This rather out-of-date book is the only reference to the meeting, as far as I remember. I'd suggest it wasn't true, as there would've been more references to it elsewhere.

    After all, Elvis' Vegas meetings with even the most obscure of celebrities is pretty-much documented.
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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    According to "Elvis: from A to Z", Elvis and Harrison meet again once in Vegas during the 70's. Is that true at all?

    This is not true because of the fact of the day that it supposely happen. Harrison supposely met Elvis in Vegas but at the time Elvis was in fact in Memphis. So that is not true at all. Only two thing that is true about Harrison, one is that he met Elvis in 1965 and two he went to all four of the MSG concerts. Only one other celebrity went to all four MSG concerts and that was Lennon and his wife Yoko.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Raised on Rock View Post
    According to "Elvis: from A to Z", Elvis and Harrison meet again once in Vegas during the 70's. Is that true at all?
    That book is from 89, I don't think it has ever been updated.
    David Stanley also co wrote a book similar to A to Z "The Elvis Encyclopedia"? Never bought it but saw it out.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislennon2004 View Post
    This is not true because of the fact of the day that it supposely happen. Harrison supposely met Elvis in Vegas but at the time Elvis was in fact in Memphis. So that is not true at all. Only two thing that is true about Harrison, one is that he met Elvis in 1965 and two he went to all four of the MSG concerts. Only one other celebrity went to all four MSG concerts and that was Lennon and his wife Yoko.
    So cool that John and George where there at the MSG gigs isnīt it?
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    That book is from 89, I don't think it has ever been updated.
    David Stanley also co wrote a book similar to A to Z "The Elvis Encyclopedia"? Never bought it but saw it out.
    A friend of mine have the D. Stanley Encyclopedia, not really a great book, but it has a few facts that I havenīt seen documented but rarely in other books. The meeting of Elvis with Eric Clapton for instanse.

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