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    Lost EP belongings returned to EPE

    Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors. The same could one day happen concerning EP items. Now this probably would not include tapes and recordings since EPE has no right to those. But items like stage and movie costumes, automobiles, personal owned items, and jewelry could be forced to be returned the the hands of the estate for future use.

    Also keep in mind that things are about to change as far as money goes with EPE. Things they have never been able to do in the past they will now have the financial backing to do so. Such as take the media and tabloids to court over slander and damage to the name and legacy of EP. That would include stopping the nonsense that EP stole black music and was a racist. If someone wants to claim that publicly on record, then they better have proof to back it in the court of law. otherwise Bob Sillerman could put a company in bankruptcy very quickly just to prove his point. Keep in mind, he has a lot to lose if some fabricate story or rumor were to damage his investment. He is about to invest close to $300 million or more into the new Graceland expansion project. That's not chump change either. Lakeisha said they are calling it the largest private financial investment in the city's history!!

    There's an old saying-money talks and I have a strong feeling in my gut that Bob Sillerman is about to make his money speak loud volumes.
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
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    National treasures taken from a country and hidden in private collectors galleries are very different to Items of significance e.g. clothing from a rock legend! I would be extremely surprised if Bob Sillerman would break a sweat over minor trinkets that are dotted around the globe... If I recall correctly EPE have sold personal Items belonging to Elvis on the market themselves.

    By and large the important Clothing, jewelry and planes are already owned or on loan to EPE. The other sticking point would be that Elvis gave away many items e.g. jumpsuits, clothing & cars etc how would EPE/Sillerman ever lay claim to these items, the burden of proof would be on EPE to demonstrate that any such Items had been stolen, these claims are very difficult to substantiate and would be costly.

    I would suggest that this process is a non starter in EPE's case.

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    That's your opinion and you are entitled to that. However those jumpsuits and personal items like the yellow Pentera are of great value. Oh and don't forget the unused long cape for the Aloha concert too. They all should be displayed at Graceland. And that was my reason for this thread. I do think EPE will approach private collectors in some way to buy back what they once sold off now that they have a powerful money maker in their corner. The fans are forgetting-there's never been a financial backing for EP or EPE (in his life or after) as there is now. So anything is possible. And nothing would surprise me now that they do have the financing in place to do those things.
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors. The same could one day happen concerning EP items. Now this probably would not include tapes and recordings since EPE has no right to those. But items like stage and movie costumes, automobiles, personal owned items, and jewelry could be forced to be returned the the hands of the estate for future use.

    Also keep in mind that things are about to change as far as money goes with EPE. Things they have never been able to do in the past they will now have the financial backing to do so. Such as take the media and tabloids to court over slander and damage to the name and legacy of EP. That would include stopping the nonsense that EP stole black music and was a racist. If someone wants to claim that publicly on record, then they better have proof to back it in the court of law. otherwise Bob Sillerman could put a company in bankruptcy very quickly just to prove his point. Keep in mind, he has a lot to lose if some fabricate story or rumor were to damage his investment. He is about to invest close to $300 million or more into the new Graceland expansion project. That's not chump change either. Lakeisha said they are calling it the largest private financial investment in the city's history!!

    There's an old saying-money talks and I have a strong feeling in my gut that Bob Sillerman is about to make his money speak loud volumes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    National treasures taken from a country and hidden in private collectors galleries are very different to Items of significance e.g. clothing from a rock legend! I would be extremely surprised if Bob Sillerman would break a sweat over minor trinkets that are dotted around the globe... If I recall correctly EPE have sold personal Items belonging to Elvis on the market themselves.

    By and large the important Clothing, jewelry and planes are already owned or on loan to EPE. The other sticking point would be that Elvis gave away many items e.g. jumpsuits, clothing & cars etc how would EPE/Sillerman ever lay claim to these items, the burden of proof would be on EPE to demonstrate that any such Items had been stolen, these claims are very difficult to substantiate and would be costly.

    I would suggest that this process is a non starter in EPE's case.

    I agree with Matt here...I just don't see this happening...there's no way they're ever going to get back all the things that is or reported to be in private hands...if they ever do.

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    Leave it to Jay to find some connection to the Egyptian governement and Elvis just so he can mention his love for B.S.

    Far fetched is what I'd call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    Leave it to Jay to find some connection to the Egyptian governement and Elvis just so he can mention his love for B.S.

    Far fetched is what I'd call it.
    Leave it to Rocknroll (aka Kerry Mills from the 30 Number Ones forum) to spoil a good thread. When will the moderators learn?
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
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    It would be nice to EPE go and get the stuff that does belong at graceland, but to be honest l can't see them being bothered.

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    Why do you all think Bob Sillerman bought out the Elvis A-Rama museum in las Vegas? So he can have all of that moved to Memphis as part of the new expansion for a new museum. If he would do that, then what makes you think he wouldn't want the tour bus, the yellow pentera, the lost limos, the unused cape, the lost jumpsuits, etc? I'm telling you guys, this will probably happen in some way or another. Maybe not by law or court, but by a private buyout as he did with the A-Rama museum.
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
    http://gracelandfuture.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    Why do you all think Bob Sillerman bought out the Elvis A-Rama museum in las Vegas? So he can have all of that moved to Memphis as part of the new expansion for a new museum. If he would do that, then what makes you think he wouldn't want the tour bus, the yellow pentera, the lost limos, the unused cape, the lost jumpsuits, etc? I'm telling you guys, this will probably happen in some way or another. Maybe not by law or court, but by a private buyout as he did with the A-Rama museum.
    With all due respect l can't see this happening anytime soon. I think Bob has other plans in his head than buying things back from people that own elvis things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    Don't be surprised if Bob Sillerman and EPE take it to court for private collectors to hand over personal items that once belonged to the estate or to EP. The reason I say this is because the government of Egypt is now forcing ancient Egyptian items to be returned to their rightful owner of the Cairo Museum from private collectors.
    honey,

    besides lakeisha you're the best example that all that jolting from too much roller-coaster riding obviously has bad baaaad side effects on the cerebrum, and there especially on the neocortex.

    otherwise even you would have realized that elvis-memorabilia BOUGHT from EPE or whoever owned them first - which should be the case with 99% of all memorabilia around - are something COMPLETELY different from artefacts literally STOLEN from egypt in the beginnings of archeology by self-proclaimed archeologists or even real historians and scientists, be it with or without the knowledge and approval of their governments that they 'confiscated' their findings for science.

    archeology in the 19th and early 20th century was not highly developped in egypt back them, and most of all they were lacking the money for thoses enterprises.

    it's hence all about the simple difference between 'bought' and 'confiscated' = stolen.

    so i suggest instead of wasting even more of your time in amusement parks and more of your fellow-members patience you better take a history book and start reading ...... - before you start talking.

    apart from that, there have been lawsuits before about memorabilia the ownership of which was unclear .... even without mr. sillerman being involved.

    ellie

    PS BTW, just wondering .... ... i read that the mummies' brains were removed from the skull with metal hooks via their nose. at times i wonder if 'dr. frankenstein' is not only a literary character but alive and kicking and continuing his experiments with transplanting human brains ... .

    anybody have an idea about his whereabouts? heard recently about 'brainless' humans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    When will the moderators learn?
    when they start closing threads basing on nothing but empty assumptions?


    !!!

    ellie

    PS plus when they monitor more thoroughly IP-## logging in - in case they got the equipment = software which can be rather expensive.
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    EPE has four buildings that contain archival items.

    Surely they're more concerned about museum space to display these items than they are about obtaining more Elvis items.

    They do not currently purchase items but they do track what is sold, the prices things sell for and who they go to - for historical purposes.

    This information comes from Angie Marchese, head of archives at EPE.

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    I think the Egyptian items and elvis things are no way related. Egypt has been robbed, stolen and you have to consider the reason's why they making such a big deal about
    Egyptian items, not only are they worth alot but very inportant by filling the missing pieces in Egypt history. Elvis was around and peole knew about his life and etc, egypt is a mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDOEP View Post
    when they start closing threads basing on nothing but empty assumptions?


    !!!

    ellie

    PS plus when they monitor more thoroughly IP-## logging in - in case they got the equipment = software which can be rather expensive.
    Great couple of threads Ellie. As much as we all love Elvis, no, it's not the same thing as stolen artifacts that bear importance to a countries history. And no one could ever find all the Elvis artifacts floating around out there...to begin with-who would admit to having it??

    I have several EP capes, but please don't tell anyone, OK??

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    Great couple of threads Ellie. As much as we all love Elvis, no, it's not the same thing as stolen artifacts that bear importance to a countries history. And no one could ever find all the Elvis artifacts floating around out there...to begin with-who would admit to having it??

    I have several EP capes, but please don't tell anyone, OK??
    rosanna,

    this thread is insofar highly hilarious as it is in the one case - like all others but the threadstarter seem to understand - about STOLEN artefacts that not only BELONG to a country, but are - as pointed out - an important factor in the people's history and national identity.

    whatever is 'floating around' (nice term ) of elvis former possession ..... first of all never ever could be tracked down by sillerman, unless elvis' sends him a detailed list from heaven above what he gave away as present during his lifetime and to whom! somehow i have the feeling that elvis' is not too inclined to do so ... he probably has better things to do, wherever he may be right now. demanding back stuff he gave away 100% would be against elvis' own understanding of the term 'present' and his famous generosity.

    second: even if sillerman knew who received what when .... what again are the paragraphs in US legislation with the help of which mr. sillerman in his current position could possibly demand back presents elvis gave to friends, fans or strangers???

    and what again are the paragraphs that allow a complete stranger (sillerman) who bought himself part of a company to 'demand back' items that people bought from friends, from EPE, from whoever possessed such a piece?

    he could maybe make LMP to demand back stuff that was STOLEN during elvis' lifetime of after his death, no doubt. but was there any stuff stolen? not that i know.

    i herewith demand from 'ep75' to quote these paragraphs that make it possible! i'm sure in their local library he / she will find the books she needs.

    should he / she not be able to provide those --- i think this thread can be closed .

    ellie

    PS sweetie, are you trying to impress me with those capes?!? forget it. i got some of his underwear ..... hey, i myself stole it from the clothesline at GL by the dozen. but since sillerman doesn't have my address .....
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    all of elvis'things should be at graceland, where they belong
    keep smiling and rock and rollin' and loving elvis!!

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    Okay. I'm Going To Say This One Time Only. I Am Not F**king She. I Am A Male From Alabama And Have Even Posted My Picture. Get That Crap Straight And Now. And You Better Believe The Next Person To Falsly Accuse Me Of That Will Be Reported For Flaming. Get It Into Your Thick Head Now!
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graceland girl View Post
    all of elvis'things should be at graceland, where they belong
    Yes they should be. That was why I started this thread and as usual the same ole trouble makers continue to get away with ruining threads and then I am the one who gets banned. Go freaking figure.
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
    http://gracelandfuture.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDOEP View Post

    i herewith demand from 'ep75' to quote these paragraphs that make it possible! i'm sure in their local library he / she will find the books she needs.

    should he / she not be able to provide those --- i think this thread can be closed .

    ellie

    PS sweetie, are you trying to impress me with those capes?!? forget it. i got some of his underwear ..... hey, i myself stole it from the clothesline at GL by the dozen. but since sillerman doesn't have my address .....
    Great points Ellie! Anyone with time on their hands should be able to find such info.

    Hey...I'll trade with ya! One cape for one pair of underwear. Are they boxers, or briefs???

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    This is exactly why this forum is becoming less popular. Trolls and flamers.
    http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2...-overhaulx.jpg "Without a shadow of a doubt, Bob Sillerman is the BEST thing to happen to the Elvis World in a very long time. Even EPE have stated this. During the next ten years we should see a massive boost for the Elvis Legacy."-courtesy, Brian Quinn

    Check out my blog on the new upcoming Graceland expansion and redevelopment.
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