Reply With QuoteHere:Originally Posted by Kris P
No other inference could have been made.
I was referring to the "1977 pure Elvis" posters in general, and to the overall tone of your post.
Where did I say that.
Please get your facts straight, it would be appreciated.
I don't expect them to say anything, though I am happy they have provided some firsthand and somewhat glowing accounts of Elvis, circa 1977.
Wrong again....I have never said this.
Hallelujah!
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No other inference could have been made.
I was referring to the "1977 pure Elvis" posters in general, and to the overall tone of your post.
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Actually, other inferences could have been made -- you just chose not to make them. Like you earlier said: it's all subjective. With that in mind, however....Here:
No other inference could have been made.
I do believe the selected reviews at the outset of this thread to be a little soft. There is little to no musical criticism (though the positive appraisal of "My Way" is a cherished exception). It seems the reviewers were awestruck by the event itself; the latter even noted this. Still, I appreciate their decision not to trash EP; instead, they appear to have translated their real feelings to print, which were clearly very positive. On that basis, EP still had it.
Are you joking?
As english may not be your first language, here is the definition of the verb 'could' as used be me, above:
could.....
(used to express possibility): I wonder who that could be at the door. That couldn't be true.
(used to express conditional possibility or ability): You could do it if you tried.
Hope this helps.
@Cryo............you nailed it.
One of my wife's best friends attended one of those show's in Maryland in 76.I think Elvis performed twice that day but I'm not positive which show she attended.I think it was the evening show.We discussed the show at length because I have the audio to these performances and she requested a copy.Those shows were decent ones by Elvis.Above average for most 76 shows.Our friend said musically he did pretty well that night but she was saddened by his appearance.She had good seats plus binoculars.She said he just appeared bloated and pale looking.She saw him something like 55 times starting in 71 through 77.
I've said many times it's hard to get an honest appraisal of an Elvis concert from an eager fan who attended because I think many saw what they wanted to see no matter what.I once talked to the president of a photography dept of a major university who photographed Elvis in concert several times.The first time he did this was in 74 and the last being in 76.He told me he was stunned when he saw Elvis for the last time in concert.He told me Elvis was barely coherent when he talked and was obviously under the influence of something.He just didnt look good at all that night and gave a listless performance.He went on to say that in spite of what he saw that night it seemed as if bolts of electricity were shooting out of him and striking people in the audience.He said the people near him at the front were having a religious experience they were so excited.Those people certainly got their money's worth in spite of his observations.I mention this because it's a reminder that many of the faithfull were going to see a dynamic Elvis concert no matter what actually transpired that evening.Obviously not all Elvis concerts in 76 or 77 were all bad.The bad certainly do outweigh the quality shows in my opinion.As much as I wish I could have seen all those shows ,I still must acknowledge that I would have been seeing Elvis as but a mere shadow of his former self.
Jak
Quote:"I still must acknowledge that I would have been seeing Elvis as but a mere shadow of his former self." Quote jak
I expect in a few years.. or sooner, we too will be a mere shawdow of our former selves. That's a part of life. It doesn't mean we're a different person than we once were. Nor do we need love and acceptance any the less.
The outer covering will wear out . The inner self remains the same.
Tell me, jak. What do you know about Elvis' life in the 70's?
Just pick one and tell me what you know and your method for dealling with just that one thing. Taking into account you still have bills to pay, a chiild to raise , alimony to pay and a payroll to meet .
Paternity suit
Divorce =2 million settlement
Lawsuits from bodyguards being too rough with fans
making karate movie
Raquetball courts
Swindled =1 million on airplane
glaucoma
colon problem=needed surgery
Diabetic
fired Parker =Parker came up with money Elvis owed him
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Elvis was a mere shadow of his self because he was a drug addict.He destroyed himself by his own hand.The problems Elvis had were nothing compared to what everyday people deal with all the time.The everyday people dont have the luxury of making millions of dollrs to combat them either.The amout of money that you listed above was chicken feed to Elvis.How about a guy with a family trying to make a mortage payment and keep his house warm making a hourly wage?How about that guy getting sick and not being able to work.I never want to hear that poor Elvis routine.Most of his health problems which you always overstate were do to his unhealthy lifestyle and drug abuse.Elvis had it all so give me a break.I personally know dozens of people whose problems dwarf Elvis'.So does everybody else on the board.Elvis threw his life away.
Jak
" expect in a few years.. or sooner, we too will be a mere shawdow of our former selves. That's a part of life."
At the proper time.Elvis got there before his time because of his own doing.Big difference.You cant even bring yourself to admit he was in a terrible state without trying to cloak the cirumstances in excuses.
Elvis supported many people, including the "friends" that turned on him.
You STILL have not answered your solution to one thing I've mentioned. It's all true ...and more. You still refuse to look at the "whole picture " and only concentrate on one area. Very sad .
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Unfortunately, it is you and others that refuse to look at all facets of Elvis' life . I "cloak" nothing, but like to bring the whole thing out into the light, instead of dwelling on one aspect only.
You want to "pick apart " Elvis' life ? Then be fair and tell all of it, not just the small part you choose.
Last edited by cameron; 12-22-2007 at 07:26 AM.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
The solution was not to obtain and abuse drugs.Dont get lazy and satisfied.It's you that doesnt see the big picture.Youre blind worship doesnt doesnt even afford you the opportunity to critique him in anyway which is ludicrous.Tell me again how Elvis had such a tremendously hard life that was more than anybody could bear.Give me a break.
IF you would look ; you would see who started the medications he was on and what they did to him. One place you can look is in Careless Love.
That book has "no blind worship" but, it does tell much of the truth you refuse to look at.
Yes, Elvis had a rough life ; because he trusted the wrong people ....including some if his doctors.
Of course, I can see what happened to him. Some is his fault; some not.
To blame him entirely is what's ludicrous.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Glad you qouted Careless Love because it does portray Elvis without sugar coating it.It doesnt pull any punches.Youre not going to find justification for his drug use in that book.Youre the one that wont look at the truth.I can talk about both sides of Elvis.The artist of the century and the weak drug addict.People like youreself cannot discuss his dual personality or be comfortable when others discuss it.I am a student of his career and music.People like yourself dont really even know that much about the important aspect of his life which was the music.You are content to cling to the image and listen to the few RCA Victor recordings you have and all is well in the Elvis world, until the malcontents dare to threaten this by discussing the reality that Elvis himself created.These non fans are not keepers of the flame like you real fans I guess.
Jak
You'd do yourself a favor by re-reading that book then. I think you missed a few things. IF your only interested in the music, then perhaps you might discuss that and leave his private life private .
It appears you're not so interested in the truth of the mans life. \
BTW: There's quite a few more books on his life out here too you might want to check out.
Last edited by cameron; 12-22-2007 at 09:52 AM.
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
[QUOTE=cameron;169559]You'd do yourself a favor by re-reading that book then. I think you missed a few things. IF your only interested in the music, then perhaps you might discuss that and leave his private life private .
It appears you're not so interested in the truth of the mans life. [/QUOTE
Unfortunately Elvis wasted his talent because of what he did in his private life.His drug abuse robbed the man of what made him great.His creativity and creative zeal were crushed by his desire to do drugs.The effect of his drug abuse on his music cannot be ignored.Im surprised you didnt know that.
Jak
Unfortunately, you don't appear to know or acknowledge the truth of his private life .
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
Get back on track here.
All new replies seem valid to me. Keep an open mind.
Sonny
I keep forgetting how rough Elvis had it.
I've noticed .
"I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."
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