Elton John talks about seeing & meeting Elvis

[KPM]

]Who was this guy?[/B]

And more importantly.....did he have a friendship with Elvis to speak of with Elvis in the 60's and 70's?

My money is on the friendship not exisitng by the mid 60's.

Elvis did what he wanted when he wanted. People tried to talk to him, he wasnt interested.
It's a shame he didn't listen and or act on his own to stop his self destructive lifetyle.

I think this guys name was Paul. and I am not going to look it up to make sure it takes too much time and I don't have it. The statement is an accurate representation of what this guy said (whatever his name is).
He is one of the guys in the Lauderdale Courts photo which was posted a while back.
My point is I have never known an employee/employer relationship among friends to work. It always affects how the friendship is viewed and friends are not always the best employees-you may disagree. People may have tried to talk to him-but I would love to hear the true conversations as they actually happened-not through the "perhaps" self justifing, self [U]grandizing, SELF FILTERED-accounts[/U]. Its human nature to make yourself look as good as possible -these guys are human.
I mean to be honest would any of these guys ever say to fans (if it is true)-"Nah we never talked to him, we were afraid to get him angry" Of course not. They arer going to stress "the time they told him how it was" Then you have to ask okay about 8 guys in the core MM how many times did they talk to him-once a piece? Or maybe 2, 3 times a piece? Was that enough? I honestly don't know. Like I said I would love to have the actual details of what was said and how many times he was approached.
You can tell someone with a worried serious look-"Man that stuff and you are out of control" and then you can laugh, say the same thing with a grin as you shake your head-and it comes off as a joke. But if you tell the story later and omit "the laugh-grin and head shake" it seems as it you confronted someone headon. IMO I think that leaves a little slack in how they describe what they did and how they did it.

Truthfully we disagree on one thing-I feel everyones lives are affected by the environment they are brought up in as kids, their genes, and the people and environment they live in as adults. It has a "cause and affect" or as science puts it for "every action their is a reaction"
From your posts I gather you feel everyone is in it alone and nothing which happens around them (past and present) should be considered as having any affect on their lives. IMO Valid argument-I just don't agree with it.
IMO My points are valid also-you just don't agree with it.

[KPM]

Yes sad, but true he refused! Did they have rehab then as they do now, seems all the stars today are in them...

Could Vernon have checked Elvis into something or did Elvis have to be the one to do that? He should have been the one to do that, but obviously didn't...

btw thanks, for the interview Trelane! I agree that Elvis had a manger who ripped him off!

franny

Nope the days of "noble interventions" or personal revelations of "I have a problem and need to get help" were way in the future. No one wanted to admit they had problems-it showed weakness and frailty. You worked the problems out the best you knew how-(and that usually meant the worst most destructive ways possible) We mortals did not like to admit to our shortcomings either- but Heros could not have weaknesses-it just wasn't done. It will sound trite but "you had to live in those times" to see how big the differences truely were compared to the culture of today and perception of problems.

[franny]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny

[Stryx]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny

As far as I know and I am not 100% sure, I think Vernon could have had Elvis committed to undergo what we now call rehab.

[utmom2008]

As far as I know and I am not 100% sure, I think Vernon could have had Elvis committed to undergo what we now call rehab.

I think you are right Stryx.....that's when we used to say that someone had been "commited". While they were married, Priscilla is the one that could have done it.

[Diane]

If Elvis really did refuse to get help it was probably because he didn't believe yet that he had a real problem...after all, in those days prescription drugs were believed to be safe...doctors whether they deserved it or not were held in much higher esteem in those days. An awful lot has come to light since the 70's.

Diane

[JDD]

If Elvis really did refuse to get help it was probably because he didn't believe yet that he had a real problem...after all, in those days prescription drugs were believed to be safe...doctors whether they deserved it or not were held in much higher esteem in those days. An awful lot has come to light since the 70's.

Diane

Most people always think they have time, they'll do it next month after the tour or next week after the game.

JD

[Diane]

Yup JDD, that's still a very common way of thinking even today.

Diane

[rickb]

Elton's Porch Swing in Tupelo is one of his best songs in years (one of his few good songs really) and it pays a nice tribute to Elvis
Check it out
Rick

[KPM]

That's too bad, KPM! I think that way of thinking is very wrong and maybe it would have made a difference in Elvis' life if there was "noble interventions"...

Could Vernon have stepped in and made Elvis go to rehab or is that something they didn't do? I can't think of the actor off-hand, but his father stepped in and had him go to a rehab center, this was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, though...

franny

It was Martin Sheen who stepped in and had his son Charlie put into a rehab center. Charlie admits now that it was the only way to help him and he has praised his dad for doing so.