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    Why was MSG not filmed?

    It was asked at the press conference of the MSG-shows in '72,but I can't make it up.so that's why I ask it here;Why didn't they filmed MSG???
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    Elvis asked the Colonel, "Why did they film the concert in Boston (November '71, I'm assuming he's referring to) and they couldn't film it here?" and the remark the Colonel makes is still unclear to me....

    Can anybody shed more light on this?
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    I listened to my copy, and I couldn't make sense of the man, first his speech was - well sort of slurred, then, it seemed as if he was talking in circles. I noticed that even Elvis shook his head in wonder. I don't think he gave an actual reason. I'm glad Elvis had the sense to field that question to the Col, however.


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    Did Elvis think they had filmed his full show at Boston?

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    BECAUSE the Colonel was a @##@#$@#$&$%*&....highlight of elvis career and it wasint filmed go figure
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    The Colonel can't be blamed for everything in Elvis's career.

    As a fan I would love had MSG and every concert he ever performed been professionally filmed. But alas they were not.

    I asked Charlie Hodge a few years back did he think it was a pity that we have so few professionally filmed concerts.

    Charlie thought we actually had quite a lot.

    Personally I don't.

    But Colonel can't be blamed for everything.....and at the end of the day Elvis is the one who kept him on, so Elvis is responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryx View Post
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    I asked Charlie Hodge a few years back did he think it was a pity that we have so few professionally filmed concerts.

    Charlie thought we actually had quite a lot.


    What an interesting reply Stryx What did Charlie mean by that? I am with you...I don't think we do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utmom2008 View Post
    What an interesting reply Stryx What did Charlie mean by that? I am with you...I don't think we do either.

    Well when I asked Charlie he started to list out concerts that had been filmed like the 68', TTWII, EOT, ALOHA the CBS special.

    He thought that was a lot of concerts. I guess it is, but I would just like a lot more.

    Charlie was alright, I had a good chat with him. He woudlent talk about August 16th 1977 though.

    His books only alright - it doesen't really offer much insight into life with Elvis though.

    It was just before he died I met and spoke with him, he told me that the guy he wrote his book with had died and he was now getting all the profits from it! He mentioned that about three times! His wife who was with him was much much younger than him and he was quite proud that she was college educated.

    He had some nice stories to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryx View Post
    Well when I asked Charlie he started to list out concerts that had been filmed like the 68', TTWII, EOT, ALOHA the CBS special.

    He thought that was a lot of concerts. I guess it is, but I would just like a lot more.

    Charlie was alright, I had a good chat with him. He woudlent talk about August 16th 1977 though.

    His books only alright - it doesen't really offer much insight into life with Elvis though.

    It was just before he died I met and spoke with him, he told me that the guy he wrote his book with had died and he was now getting all the profits from it! He mentioned that about three times! His wife who was with him was much much younger than him and he was quite proud that she was college educated.

    He had some nice stories to tell.
    Jennifer hodge is a very nice person and l don't think charlie said anything bad about elvis in his books, but never got to read them so l really don't know.

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    Charlie didn't really say much at all in his books to be very honest.

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    When Elvis asked the Colonel, at the MSG press confrence. "why are they not filming the MSG show?", even Elvis couldn't make out his answer and shrugged his shoulders like, whatever.
    Last edited by MojoElvis; 12-03-2007 at 06:42 PM. Reason: typo

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    I thought the Colonel said it was because they couldn't get the building in time.

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    Who says it wasn't filmed? There is a 8mm film camera on the stage so I think some had to be filmed........ Photos and the 8mm fan footage shows that camera on stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvislennon2004 View Post
    Who says it wasn't filmed? There is a 8mm film camera on the stage so I think some had to be filmed........ Photos and the 8mm fan footage shows that camera on stage.
    It wasn't filmed professionally: 8mm is like home movies, or the Zapruder film of the Kennedy assassination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll View Post
    I thought the Colonel said it was because they couldn't get the building in time.
    He said this regarding Elvis never playing in NY before other than TV shows. Elvis said, we had to wait for our turn.
    There are some 8mm films available and some pro shots from the News media but I don't know how much was recorded of that. He's wearing the Adonis Suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryx View Post
    Did Elvis think they had filmed his full show at Boston?

    No.

    This was discussed many years ago in Elvis Monthly and other publications.

    A reporter at the NYC press conference asked Elvis why they filmed in Boston rather than New York. Perplexed, Elvis passed the question over to the Colonel.

    What the reporter presumably meant to say was Buffalo, which, as you know, is also in New York. Hence the confusion. The Buffalo show on April 5 was filmed by Robert Abel with just a small Sony camera to get a feel for the performance, in readiness for the upcoming April shows.

    There was a theory going around years ago that the film footage of An American Trilogy (as featured in This Is Elvis) was actually from the Buffalo Sony camera footage: one angle, the colour isn't all that great. And I'm talking here about the footage itself - not the actual sound. Trilogy from TIE may have been overdubbed with the sound from Hampton Roads (evening show) from April 9 as Abel's camera would not have been able to capture sound in releasable quality. However, the TIE footage belies that theory. It's from Hampton. I do wonder why they only used one angle for Trilogy though. Maybe for cinematic effect?

    And MSG was not filmed presumably because they had just filmed several shows in April. But what a pity they didn't film in MSG: Elvis was slimmer, certainly brighter than in April. The June shows were better overall too.

    An Elvis On Tour based around the June tour and the MSG shows would have been something all right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryx View Post
    The Colonel can't be blamed for everything in Elvis's career.

    As a fan I would love had MSG and every concert he ever performed been professionally filmed. But alas they were not.
    I asked Charlie Hodge a few years back did he think it was a pity that we have so few professionally filmed concerts.

    Charlie thought we actually had quite a lot.
    I suppose for someone that was on with Elvis at every concert, the filming did seem like a lot. The rest of us who saw very little or none - we want more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoElvis View Post
    and some pro shots from the News media but I don't know how much was recorded of that. He's wearing the Adonis Suit.
    There is no pro shot "news media" footage from any of the four shows.

    Any footage released from these shows has been fan shot footage, not professional.

    See www.msg1972.com or the Rocking The Garden DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisarose View Post
    I suppose for someone that was on with Elvis at every concert, the filming did seem like a lot. The rest of us who saw very little or none - we want more.
    Yeah.

    Considering he gave 1156 concerts from 1969-77, you'd think there'd be more than the relative handful we have.
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    http://www.msg1972.com/ What a great site about the MSG concerts. Thanks for the link!
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