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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    I usually dont have many bad things to say about Lisa or Priscilla.Mainly because they dont particualry interest me either way.However they both have dropped the ball when it comes to Elvis relatives and even the employees that worked at Graceland when Elvis was alive.They had no obligation to do anything personally for them.I think just to be decent they should have and should do more.People like Mama Pauline lived in basically a shack with social security and that's it.They should have provided them with a little financial support.Even a a small monthly check.Letting them cook dinner at Graceland during the holiday was like throwing them a small bone.They have the money and I think they could have done more for the people that worked at graceland for so many years.It was like a family from all acounts.
    Jak
    True but again Pris was in control of the purse strings for many many many years, Lisa having extended her guardianship shortly after marriage to Danny.

    Elvis bought Mary a house, did EPE take that back as well like they did Linda's parents house? Anybody know?

    No your right she wasn't obligated but it would have been a decent thing to do, provide a better pension for the household staff that continued to serve them whenever they requested.

    Nancy continued to do so and she passed away from cancer, wonder if they did anything for her?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    I don't know why he put that in there. I'm going with protecting Lisa. Oh I agree Vernon was very much "of sound mind".
    Yes, I think to it was all done to protect Lisa, but in the end I think he did more damage then good, money has a way of destroying families, I think Pris felt she should have inherited something...you know what I mean?

    Vernon def of sound mind, I don't buy the excuse he was a sick man, not disputing he wasn't, but again it had to do w/his heart not his mind.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by cameron View Post
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    Well, that might be debateable.
    Yeah that it can be lol.

    I wish that those that were loyal to Elvis and to Pris after Elvis, Vernon's and Minnie's passing had been better taken care of, there was enough money there...

    When Pris took Linda's parents to court to have the home Elvis bought them returned to EPE and sold, Linda at that time asked "When is it enough? How much can one little girl need in her lifetime financially?" or something to that effect.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzan View Post
    Yeah that it can be lol.

    I wish that those that were loyal to Elvis and to Pris after Elvis, Vernon's and Minnie's passing had been better taken care of, there was enough money there...
    When Pris took Linda's parents to court to have the home Elvis bought them returned to EPE and sold, Linda at that time asked "When is it enough? How much can one little girl need in her lifetime financially?" or something to that effect.
    With this I can agree.
    Not all families think the same,unfortunately.
    It's the way many of us were raised; to help our families.
    IF Pris didn't see it her childhood; she certainly must have seen it with Elvis.
    She chose to do her own thing, it seems.
    It's up to Lisa now.
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzan View Post
    True but again Pris was in control of the purse strings for many many many years, Lisa having extended her guardianship shortly after marriage to Danny.

    Elvis bought Mary a house, did EPE take that back as well like they did Linda's parents house? Anybody know?

    No your right she wasn't obligated but it would have been a decent thing to do, provide a better pension for the household staff that continued to serve them whenever they requested.

    Nancy continued to do so and she passed away from cancer, wonder if they did anything for her?
    They didnt take away Mary's house.Like it's been said, they had no obligation.Particulary Priscilla since she had been gone so long.It would have been a nice gesture though.
    Jak

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by cameron View Post
    With this I can agree.
    Not all families think the same,unfortunately.
    It's the way many of us were raised; to help our families.
    IF Pris didn't see it her childhood; she certainly must have seen it with Elvis.
    She chose to do her own thing, it seems
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    It's up to Lisa now.
    I agree, wow imagine that, lol...
    I certainly was raised that way, that is what families are for, not the only thing, but part of it.
    From what I understand she said they didn't have much, but then her mom had a nanny to help w/the kids so tells me not to bad off, but anyway, yes if she did not see w/her family growing up she did w/Elvis, but here's the thing, it obviously sank in, because she's taken care of her immediate family and extended family quite well. Elvis is still footing the bill for all of them.
    I think Lisa will do best she knows how and what she was taught, we are products of our upbringing, circumstance and environment and she didn't have Elvis long enough to teach her about helping family. IMO
    Last edited by Suzan; 11-18-2007 at 07:44 AM. Reason: freaking typos, sorry peeps!

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzan View Post
    Yes, I think to it was all done to protect Lisa, but in the end I think he did more damage then good, money has a way of destroying families, I think Pris felt she should have inherited something...you know what I mean?

    Vernon def of sound mind, I don't buy the excuse he was a sick man, not disputing he wasn't, but again it had to do w/his heart not his mind.
    I firmly believe that Vernon respected and trusted Priscilla.His actions support this.He would not have made her executor if her and Elvis had the animosity towards her that some believe.Elvis wanted Priscilla back at Graceland until the day he died and I would bet that Vernon shared the same thought.If nothing else only to give his troubled son something to try and keep him grounded.
    Jak

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    I firmly believe that Vernon respected and trusted Priscilla.His actions support this.He would not have made her executor if her and Elvis had the animosity towards her that some believe.Elvis wanted Priscilla back at Graceland until the day he died and I would bet that Vernon shared the same thought.If nothing else only to give his troubled son something to try and keep him grounded.
    Jak
    I disagree for reasons I don't care to get into publicly.
    I'll leave it at that.

    Vernon did what he did because he had nobody else he thought would look after Lisa as he assumed her mom would.

  9. #29
    MissyM
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    I firmly believe that Vernon respected and trusted Priscilla.His actions support this.He would not have made her executor if her and Elvis had the animosity towards her that some believe.Elvis wanted Priscilla back at Graceland until the day he died and I would bet that Vernon shared the same thought.If nothing else only to give his troubled son something to try and keep him grounded.
    Jak

    Oh jak, what can I say! Eeek! The one thing Vernon and Pricilla had in common is the love and need to hoard Elvis's money. As for Elvis and Vernon wanting Cilla back in the fold till the day Elvis died OMGosh, I don't even know how to address that. If she was so precious to them, why was she not in the will? The deed to the house could have been put in Cilla's name, thereby making it partly hers and avoiding it going into probate. But it was not done, knowing full well that doing so did not necessarily protect it for Lisa.


    Vernon did what he did because he had nobody else he thought would look after Lisa as he assumed her mom would.

    I agree and I am quite sure Cilla did a very good job of convincing him of that too.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by MissyM View Post
    I firmly believe that Vernon respected and trusted Priscilla.His actions support this.He would not have made her executor if her and Elvis had the animosity towards her that some believe.Elvis wanted Priscilla back at Graceland until the day he died and I would bet that Vernon shared the same thought.If nothing else only to give his troubled son something to try and keep him grounded.
    Jak

    Oh jak, what can I say! Eeek! The one thing Vernon and Pricilla had in common is the love and need to hoard Elvis's money. As for Elvis and Vernon wanting Cilla back in the fold till the day Elvis died OMGosh, I don't even know how to address that. If she was so precious to them, why was she not in the will? The deed to the house could have been put in Cilla's name, thereby making it partly hers and avoiding it going into probate. But it was not done, knowing full well that doing so did not necessarily protect it for Lisa.


    Vernon did what he did because he had nobody else he thought would look after Lisa as he assumed her mom would.

    I agree and I am quite sure Cilla did a very good job of convincing him of that too.

    Woman well said, well said!

    Elvis' ego was hurt, he didn't want Lisa to leave, but I think he, at time Pris left was no longer in love with her...I will seriously need to pull interview I have where he addresses his divorce. I don't for one second believe he wanted her back. He cared for her as the mother of his child but that's it. He also may have felt guilty and therefore said things to her at concerts but that's as far as I think that went.
    And when in Memphis, why did she stay at motels? There were guest rooms at Graceland.
    She did a very good job of convincing Vernon.

  11. #31

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    But back to Harold Loyd ...
    Getlo - cute'n'cuddly

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    But back to Harold Loyd ...
    LOL yeah huh, I tried once and gave up...

    I wonder if when Pris and Lisa visited if they did not see him handing out tickets at the raquetball bldg. and how they weren't ashamed that they allowed it?

  13. #33
    Now that I think of it Elvis should have put Priscilla to work tearing ticket stubs at his concerts when she asked for more money after the divorce and Vernon should have asked for the things Elvis gave to Priscilla´s family to get some money after Elvis died. After all Priscilla and her family are not related to Elvis.
    Funny how Elvis´ family is out of all of this and Priscilla and her people who are not related to them get all the advantages.
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  14. #34
    MissyM
    Guest
    Dounut you said a mouth full. There has always been this honestly about how Elvis's family (the Smiths specifically) tried to get things out of Elvis, bugging for help and handouts. I'm not saying that isn't true, in the beginning of his career or that some didn't. But if you take a good look at people who I honestly think used him to such a degree, ruined his trust, and thought of him a cash cow, why are they in such a position they are. I wouldn't condone anyone taking advantage of Elvis by any means. But it seems that the propaganda that the Smith were poor white trash and Cilla's family is somehow better, isn't correct. The Smith family took no for an answer and never had a bad word to say about Elvis publicly. (ok there is a book out by one and I have not read it-till I do, I hold to that idea) I'm not talking about Billy. I'm talking about his and Elvis's other cousins that are also my husbands. No one even knows their names! They stay out of the limelight and just live their lives. And yet, Cilla and the people she is fond of continue to live off of Elvis.

  15. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    But back to Harold Loyd ...
    Er .......
    Getlo - cute'n'cuddly

  16. #36
    MissyM
    Guest
    Sorry Get- 20 lashing on me. I don't remember Harold. It's too hard to remember all the people I have heard spoken of.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzan View Post
    True but again Pris was in control of the purse strings for many many many years, Lisa having extended her guardianship shortly after marriage to Danny.

    Elvis bought Mary a house, did EPE take that back as well like they did Linda's parents house? Anybody know?

    No your right she wasn't obligated but it would have been a decent thing to do, provide a better pension for the household staff that continued to serve them whenever they requested.

    Nancy continued to do so and she passed away from cancer, wonder if they did anything for her?
    Didnt they (EPE) take away Gingers parents house too? Something about Elvis saying he would pay the mortgage for them and pay for them to have lots done to the house including a swimming pool (think he had originally offered them a new house but they refused it - so he wanted to spend money on their existing house?)

    On Elvis by the presleys dvd, priscilla went on and on about how FAMILY MEANT A LOT TO ELVIS , it obviously didnt mean that much to her and Lisa I dont like saying negative things about lisa. he was her dad and she was left all his money - but as for the ex wife

  18. #38
    "I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem."

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    Now that I think of it Elvis should have put Priscilla to work tearing ticket stubs at his concerts when she asked for more money after the divorce and Vernon should have asked for the things Elvis gave to Priscilla´s family to get some money after Elvis died. After all Priscilla and her family are not related to Elvis.
    Funny how Elvis´ family is out of all of this and Priscilla and her people who are not related to them get all the advantages.
    OMG Donut and this is why I ADORE your posts, so true true true and to the point! Can you tell I agree w/you 1,000,000,000 over? LOL

  20. #40
    K Sorry Getlo, had to address Donut's wonderful post.

    Harold Lloyd, I think like the other's who were mistreated when Prissypoo took over, should have been treated much much much better. I hope that what goes around truly does come around and a higher power has something special waiting for Prissy in her old age, nothing horrid, just a reminder of what she's done to good people.

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